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Dr. Lew Graham wrote:

> Aloha Rob,
>
> The subject line spells out the unseen, false link. Money has
> no connection to the likelihood of one's survival based on my
> personal experiences.

Lew,

Who said anything about money being a solution?

Please expand. I'm not sure in what context you're talking about. If the economy crashes, then paper money may certainly be worthless.

> The 'root cause' of what you describe may be at the personal,
> not societal, level. Have many people have stopped believing
> that they are immortal beings of consciousness? Yes and IMO,
> this foundational viewpoint makes a difference in everyday
> life.

That's my whole point and what I've been saying all this time! We have to take personal responsibility. It's no good leaving these things to other people to sort out because when the crash comes it will because not enough people took responsibility. If more people took on responsibility our leaders would have to change - that's how black slavery and child slavery were abolished, for example.

> BTW, you unfairly critiqued Justin's comment about human
> motivations to improve. Do a Google search on "Saturn
> complex". It's a shamanic astrology understanding that may
> explain some of the widespread emotional despair you cite. The
> entire baby-boom generation has been learning this life lesson
> en masse. They talk to each other and drive group opinion.

I'm already familiar with Saturn complexes, but the reason you give for its relevancy is only one part of the problem, and I don't think I unfairly critiqued Justin's comment.

> You are likely correct that the fiat-money system is an
> unsustainable, rigged game.

It's just a matter of time now before the house of cards collapse, and when that happens, complaining about the doomsayers will seem very cute.

> And I'd like to applaud Justin.
> He's a straight-forward author who has activated a huge amount
> of meaningful discussion this month!

I personally think his efforts would be better spent dealing with more important priorities. When a ship is beginning to sing, the more hands on deck the better.



Post Edited (20-Feb-13 18:26)

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