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>>In your studies, what mythology in particular speaks of a time before Luna?

Velikovsky-The Earth Without the Moon

Tiahuanaco and the Deluge
Tiahuanaco apparently remained for only a very short period at its
acme of perfection (evidenced by the Calendar Gate) and perished suddenly,
perhaps through the cataclysmic happenings connected with the breakdown of the former "moon." We have at present no means of determining when Tiahuanaco rose to supreme height. or when its culture was obliterated, asn naturally, the calendar itself can tell us nothing about that. It will certainly not have been in the historical past but well back in the prehistoric. It must
indeed have occurred before the planet Luna was captured as the earth's
present moon, about 12,000 years ago.

The capture of the satellite and its later fall to the surface on
our planet imposed great stresses on the earth. The gravitational pull
caused floods and earthquakes until the moon settled into a stable orbit
one-fift}l of today's distance. Hence the "moon" draws the oceans into a
belt or bulge around the equator, drowning the equatorial region but leaving
the polar lands high and dry. When the satellite approached within a few
thousand miles gravitational forces broke it up; according to the Roche
formula each planetoid or asteroid disintegrates when approaching the
critical distance of 50 to 60,000 kms. The fragments shattered down on
earth; the oceans, released from the satellite's gravity, flowed back
toward the continents, exposing tropical lands and submerging polar
territories. This is the simple explanation of the Horbiger theory, and it
seems to me the most logical one.

Thus the approach of the "moon" caused a world-wide deluge, effecting
changes of climate and provoking earthquakes accompanied by volcanic
eruptions. The "ring" left by the satellite after breaking into fragments
caused a sudden drop in temperature of at least 20 degrees, which
geologists recognize as iia decline" in temperature. It is evident, for
example, in the discovery of frozen mammoths in the Siberian tundra.
Possibly gravity-and therefore physical weight�was also changed on earth,
and with it biological growth: this would explain the widespread
construction of huge megalithic monuments as well as the presence of
giants-man and animal-in fossil strata, tombs, and myths. According to
Horbiger four moons fell on earth, producing four Ice Ages; our present
moon, the fifth one, will similarly be drawn into the critical configuration
of one-fifth of its present distance (380,000 kms.) and will cause the
fifth cataclysm. (Remember the Aztec calendar's prediction of doomsday by

The theory of a falling moon has recently been substantiated by Dr.
John O'Keefe, a scientist at the Coddard Laboratory for Astronomy in
Maryland. Dr. O'Keefe claims that the fragments of a moon's collision
formed a ring around our planet that could have kept the sun's rays from
penetrating to earth, thus causing world-wide decline of temperatures.
After a while the fragments showered down on earth, breaking into
smithereens known as tectites. These tectites O'Keefe believes were
fragments of the fallen moon, thus proving Horbiger 's "World-lce-Cosmology." [end]

T Bird: Velikovskys Worlds in collision and Earth in Upheavel address the evidence via terrain's,scarring,islands in the arctic whose base is sheer muck and bones swept in from lower latitudes.

The capture of Luna IMHO would be a sequence over a time interval...?
which forced either 1 satellite moon or several into break up near earth.
this might be a causality driver for flood mythology.
it could have caused ocean waters to be pulled equatorial and then the tidal relationship broke...with tsunami surge towards the poles,...beyond the scale we have any record for.

"Many great deluges have taken place during the nine thousand years, for that is the number of years which have elapsed since the time of which I am speaking; and during all this time and through so many changes, there has never been any considerable accumulation of the soil coming down from the mountains, as in other places, but the earth has fallen away all round and sunk out of sight. The consequence is, that in comparison of what then was, there are remaining only the bones of the wasted body, as they may be called, as in the case of small islands, all the richer and softer parts of the soil having fallen away, and the mere skeleton of the land being left."
Plato’s Critias (111b)[1] [wiki : Greek Flood Mythology]

Storys/Mythology of a time before the Moon also exist in numerous First nations cultures of America,
there is also an aspect of Human migration accross great waters to land,
guided by great birds...ravens etc,
with denotive comment about the Sun doing this...and the Moon doing that.

Posnansky found the 3x elongated skulls of a race of giants [not head binding...natural]....buried in the Flood alluvial to some 6ft depth around Tiwanaku,....which is over 12,000 ft above sea level now,
and may have been at lower elevation prior, near sea level,
suggesting great dislocation and uplifting of the Andean range.

The Mayan Sun ending ages have a TAG added to them,

....and few men lived..

some consider the above fantasy and the contrivances of pagan peoples,

others view it as having a percentage value of truth to it.

T Bird

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