> Carlos Castaneda had discovered in the latter portion of his
> life that: "The extraordinary effect that psychotropic plants
> had had on me was what gave me the bias that their use was the
> key feature of the teachings. I held on to that conviction and
> it was only in the later years of my apprenticeship that I
> realized that the meaningful transformations and findings of
> sorcerers were always done in states of sober consciousness."
Sure, but those "meaningful transformations and findings" found in sobriety might have never occurred to them if they had never had their psychotropic plant experiences. It's sort of like the creativity of the Beatles. They normally worked in the studio sober, but with songs written under the influence. BOTH sobriety and the other-than-ordinary-experiences contributed to the final product.