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Hi Scott

Scott Creighton wrote:

>
> SC: We are discussing Recovery Vaults which typically would be
> quite different from a normal granary in that many other useful
> items would be stored e.g. vases, pots, plates, tools, weapons,
> important texts etc, etc. And seeds, of course.
>
The descriptions here can equally be applied to the Ziggurats of Babylon. The Babylonian Ziggurats housed 'vases, pots, plates, tools, weapons, important texts etc, etc. And seeds, of course.'. Even if we look to the Temples of Ra, which were huge solid constructs they were known to have stored seeds/grain and plenty of other garb from your list.

> SC: A typical ancient granary would not match the colossal size
> of the Pyramid Recovery Vaults. The Recovery Vaults had to be
> made highly visible in a barren landscape so that they could be
> easily found. Their internal storage chambers would require to
> be sealed with considerable security/blocking measures to
> deter/prevent casual looting. You would not find such heavy
> security measures in a typical granary.

The Babylonian food storage and distribution centers were absolutely massive and very well fortified. Excepting the size of the three Giza pyramids, I guess the Zigs would be at least around the same scale as the rest. Most food storage has to be sealed otherwise it would not protect the produce from mould, rats or bugs. Defensive measures would be a wise precaution since the people turn to these stores in times of famine or crop failure.

You get why I am asking for distinguishing features. Are you trying to change the view of these other ancient massive food storage and distribution centers to RVs as well? Or do you think there was a dual purpose both for ongoing and in the event of a catastrophe?


> SC: There are numerous silos around Djoser’s pyramid complex.
> Also, there are vast storage galleries a short distance to the
> west of G2.
>
Ancient Egypt was the bread basket of the ancient world, this would require absolutely massive sets of storage facilities, surely?
>
> SC: The large cache of wheat and barley seed found under the
> Step Pyramid (Saqqara) seem to have been perfectly preserved
> i.e. there does not seem to have been any damage by water
> ingress. Perhaps this is why all the Recovery Vaults were
> placed on high plateaus to guard against the rising Nile. The
> tightly fitted casing stones would also have been protection
> against rising waters. There is also good evidence to suggest
> that the items stored in the GP were placed there from the top
> of the pyramid (i.e. before the KC ceiling was set in place.).
> The three granite blocking slabs in the Ante Chamber would
> essentially hermetically seal the Grand Gallery.
>
I think your case is strong for seed storage on the step structures, in particular ones with access. These also have a food processing aspect in their original forms. I think less so in the case of Cheops. For a start the KC had 'air vents'/shafts or are you suggesting these were hermetically sealed. It would prove a huge leap of faith (maybe thats what you are saying) 'for the AE's to build that structure, put seeds in it and never look again. There were not piles of seeds found within the GP structures anyway. I hope you are not going to point to looters walking off with vases of seeds.
According to most engineers that have looked at the GP pyramids water was somehow involved at least to the level of the QC. This would be a disaster for food storage. The tightly fitted casing stones would keep the water inside the structure since these engineers posit it came from the well shaft within. Cladking has it rising to 60-70ft above the plateau as you know.
Sealed or tightly fitting granite boxes would be excellent for this storage task. Are you not turning to those found below ground for support?

On the prophetic side, I guess you have not found a mechanic, but a series of structure alignments to dates. I hope the 3rd date is not wednesday week, I am busy that day, lol.

Regards

Chris



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Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 598 Scott Creighton 01-Feb-12 18:39
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 225 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 05:35
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 241 Scott Creighton 02-Feb-12 13:38
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 220 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 14:11
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 231 Scott Creighton 02-Feb-12 14:29
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 230 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 14:53
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 241 Scott Creighton 02-Feb-12 15:20
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 231 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 15:31
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 237 Scott Creighton 02-Feb-12 16:01
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 245 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 16:27
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 221 Scott Creighton 02-Feb-12 16:48
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 236 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 16:59
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 221 Scott Creighton 02-Feb-12 17:19
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 224 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 17:35
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 200 Scott Creighton 02-Feb-12 17:54
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 208 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 18:07
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 310 Scott Creighton 02-Feb-12 18:25
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 188 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 19:02
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 225 Gary Osborn 02-Feb-12 19:12
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 219 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 19:31
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 224 Gary Osborn 02-Feb-12 21:39
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 206 Scott Creighton 02-Feb-12 19:56
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 228 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 22:08
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 250 Scott Creighton 03-Feb-12 00:04
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 216 Ahatmose 03-Feb-12 00:14
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 210 Scott Creighton 03-Feb-12 00:25
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 231 Ahatmose 03-Feb-12 00:36
Re: Finding a starting point 230 Thunderbird 03-Feb-12 00:52
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 210 Audrey 03-Feb-12 02:41
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 171 Ahatmose 03-Feb-12 02:47
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 209 Ahatmose 03-Feb-12 02:54
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 185 Scott Creighton 03-Feb-12 10:02
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 239 Gary Osborn 02-Feb-12 16:57
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 157 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 17:43
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 200 Gary Osborn 02-Feb-12 18:13
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 221 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 18:20
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 216 Gary Osborn 02-Feb-12 18:28
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 235 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 19:11
BREAKING NEWS 213 Spiros 02-Feb-12 20:35
Re: BREAKING NEWS 216 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 22:12
Re: BREAKING NEWS 220 Spiros 02-Feb-12 22:40
Re: BREAKING NEWS 246 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 22:45
Re: BREAKING NEWS 239 Spiros 03-Feb-12 13:06
Re: BREAKING NEWS 231 Ahatmose 03-Feb-12 20:26
addendum 251 Ahatmose 03-Feb-12 21:13
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 217 cladking 03-Feb-12 00:52
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 235 Audrey 03-Feb-12 03:23
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 228 Ahatmose 03-Feb-12 03:37
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 238 Audrey 03-Feb-12 05:36
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 287 Spiros 02-Feb-12 15:13
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 246 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 15:50
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 229 Spiros 02-Feb-12 20:55
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 195 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 15:53
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 250 Gary Osborn 02-Feb-12 16:01
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 216 Spiros 02-Feb-12 19:58
the 727 AD alignment 208 Spiros 02-Feb-12 20:17
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 340 NetWorkAngel 03-Feb-12 04:49
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 223 Audrey 03-Feb-12 05:44
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 351 NetWorkAngel 03-Feb-12 05:48
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 252 Scott Creighton 03-Feb-12 12:35
Re: RVT vs Standard seed/grain storage. 217 Chris Jordan 03-Feb-12 13:13
Re: RVT vs Standard seed/grain storage. 245 Scott Creighton 03-Feb-12 14:43
Re: RVT vs Standard seed/grain storage. 255 Chris Jordan 03-Feb-12 18:12
Re: RVT vs Standard seed/grain storage. 215 Scott Creighton 03-Feb-12 18:50
Re: RVT vs Standard seed/grain storage. 236 Chris Jordan 03-Feb-12 19:30
Re: RVT vs Standard seed/grain storage. 217 Chris Jordan 04-Feb-12 19:24
Re: RVT vs Standard seed/grain storage. 276 Lothur 03-Feb-12 19:50
Re: RVT vs Standard seed/grain storage. 251 PsycheDelia Smith 03-Feb-12 21:10
Re: RVT vs Standard seed/grain storage. 254 Lothur 04-Feb-12 01:22
Re: RVT vs Standard seed/grain storage. 249 Scott Creighton 04-Feb-12 15:14
Re: RVT vs Standard seed/grain storage. 259 Lothur 04-Feb-12 16:28
Re: RVT vs Standard seed/grain storage. 227 Audrey 04-Feb-12 06:39
Re: RVT vs Standard seed/grain storage. 229 Scott Creighton 04-Feb-12 12:06
Re: RVT vs Standard seed/grain storage. 283 Lothur 04-Feb-12 16:25
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 231 Morten 04-Feb-12 03:59
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 242 Scott Creighton 04-Feb-12 14:47
The Dialogue of Ipuur 218 Morten 04-Feb-12 18:25
Re: The Dialogue of Ipuur 215 Scott Creighton 04-Feb-12 18:34
Re: The Dialogue of Ipuur 239 Morten 04-Feb-12 19:05
Exploratory or argumentative? 243 drrayeye 04-Feb-12 22:46
Re: Exploratory or argumentative? 207 Morten 05-Feb-12 11:02
Re: Exploratory or argumentative? 245 drrayeye 05-Feb-12 13:28
Re: Exploratory or argumentative? 256 Thunderbird 05-Feb-12 18:27
Re: The Dialogue of Ipuur 230 Gary Osborn 04-Feb-12 23:31
Re: The Dialogue of Ipuur 235 magisterchessmutt 05-Feb-12 02:46
Re: The Dialogue of Ipuur 244 Gary Osborn 05-Feb-12 14:29
Re: The Dialogue of Ipuur 224 magisterchessmutt 05-Feb-12 17:46
Re: The Dialogue of Ipuur 328 Gary Osborn 05-Feb-12 17:52
Re: The Dialogue of Ipuur 184 Morten 05-Feb-12 10:39
Re: The Dialogue of Ipuur 265 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-12 14:48
Re: The Dialogue of Ipuur 221 Gary Osborn 05-Feb-12 16:07
Re: The Dialogue of Ipuur 443 cladking 05-Feb-12 16:59
Pocket Fisherman ... 266 jnisbet 04-Feb-12 08:38
Re: Pocket Fisherman ... 214 Scott Creighton 04-Feb-12 15:00
On second thought .... 218 Ahatmose 05-Feb-12 02:05
Re: On second thought .... 235 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-12 13:27
Re: On second thought .... 276 jnisbet 05-Feb-12 13:34
Re: On second thought .... 237 Ahatmose 05-Feb-12 13:45
Re: On second thought .... 239 jnisbet 05-Feb-12 14:33
Re: On second thought .... 216 Ahatmose 05-Feb-12 14:47
Re: On second thought .... 174 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-12 14:53
Re: On second thought .... 234 Ahatmose 05-Feb-12 15:38
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 227 LonelyAngel 05-Feb-12 16:39
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 224 Gary Osborn 05-Feb-12 17:30
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 234 Glanymor1948 05-Feb-12 20:30
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 250 Scott Creighton 06-Feb-12 11:17
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 222 Audrey 11-Feb-12 19:53
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 230 Gary Osborn 11-Feb-12 22:05
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 221 Ahatmose 11-Feb-12 23:48
Re: What if they were not Egyptians? 200 Thunderbird 12-Feb-12 02:46
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 204 Scott Creighton 13-Feb-12 00:02
Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 232 cladking 22-Feb-12 22:45
Re: Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 190 Scott Creighton 23-Feb-12 11:12
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 247 Drewski 23-Feb-12 10:48
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 248 Scott Creighton 23-Feb-12 23:58
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 199 Drewski 24-Feb-12 01:15
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 193 Scott Creighton 24-Feb-12 10:50
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 251 BethSwiss 24-Feb-12 11:16
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 218 Gary Osborn 24-Feb-12 12:15
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 245 BethSwiss 24-Feb-12 17:48
Form follows function, etc. ... 247 jnisbet 26-Feb-12 05:08


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