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Hi Scott

Scott Creighton wrote:

>
> SC: We are discussing Recovery Vaults which typically would be
> quite different from a normal granary in that many other useful
> items would be stored e.g. vases, pots, plates, tools, weapons,
> important texts etc, etc. And seeds, of course.
>
The descriptions here can equally be applied to the Ziggurats of Babylon. The Babylonian Ziggurats housed 'vases, pots, plates, tools, weapons, important texts etc, etc. And seeds, of course.'. Even if we look to the Temples of Ra, which were huge solid constructs they were known to have stored seeds/grain and plenty of other garb from your list.

> SC: A typical ancient granary would not match the colossal size
> of the Pyramid Recovery Vaults. The Recovery Vaults had to be
> made highly visible in a barren landscape so that they could be
> easily found. Their internal storage chambers would require to
> be sealed with considerable security/blocking measures to
> deter/prevent casual looting. You would not find such heavy
> security measures in a typical granary.

The Babylonian food storage and distribution centers were absolutely massive and very well fortified. Excepting the size of the three Giza pyramids, I guess the Zigs would be at least around the same scale as the rest. Most food storage has to be sealed otherwise it would not protect the produce from mould, rats or bugs. Defensive measures would be a wise precaution since the people turn to these stores in times of famine or crop failure.

You get why I am asking for distinguishing features. Are you trying to change the view of these other ancient massive food storage and distribution centers to RVs as well? Or do you think there was a dual purpose both for ongoing and in the event of a catastrophe?


> SC: There are numerous silos around Djoser’s pyramid complex.
> Also, there are vast storage galleries a short distance to the
> west of G2.
>
Ancient Egypt was the bread basket of the ancient world, this would require absolutely massive sets of storage facilities, surely?
>
> SC: The large cache of wheat and barley seed found under the
> Step Pyramid (Saqqara) seem to have been perfectly preserved
> i.e. there does not seem to have been any damage by water
> ingress. Perhaps this is why all the Recovery Vaults were
> placed on high plateaus to guard against the rising Nile. The
> tightly fitted casing stones would also have been protection
> against rising waters. There is also good evidence to suggest
> that the items stored in the GP were placed there from the top
> of the pyramid (i.e. before the KC ceiling was set in place.).
> The three granite blocking slabs in the Ante Chamber would
> essentially hermetically seal the Grand Gallery.
>
I think your case is strong for seed storage on the step structures, in particular ones with access. These also have a food processing aspect in their original forms. I think less so in the case of Cheops. For a start the KC had 'air vents'/shafts or are you suggesting these were hermetically sealed. It would prove a huge leap of faith (maybe thats what you are saying) 'for the AE's to build that structure, put seeds in it and never look again. There were not piles of seeds found within the GP structures anyway. I hope you are not going to point to looters walking off with vases of seeds.
According to most engineers that have looked at the GP pyramids water was somehow involved at least to the level of the QC. This would be a disaster for food storage. The tightly fitted casing stones would keep the water inside the structure since these engineers posit it came from the well shaft within. Cladking has it rising to 60-70ft above the plateau as you know.
Sealed or tightly fitting granite boxes would be excellent for this storage task. Are you not turning to those found below ground for support?

On the prophetic side, I guess you have not found a mechanic, but a series of structure alignments to dates. I hope the 3rd date is not wednesday week, I am busy that day, lol.

Regards

Chris



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Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 484 Scott Creighton 01-Feb-12 18:39
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 171 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 05:35
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 178 Scott Creighton 02-Feb-12 13:38
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 170 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 14:11
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 178 Scott Creighton 02-Feb-12 14:29
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 174 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 14:53
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 191 Scott Creighton 02-Feb-12 15:20
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 179 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 15:31
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 182 Scott Creighton 02-Feb-12 16:01
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 183 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 16:27
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 169 Scott Creighton 02-Feb-12 16:48
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 183 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 16:59
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 163 Scott Creighton 02-Feb-12 17:19
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 170 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 17:35
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 150 Scott Creighton 02-Feb-12 17:54
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 150 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 18:07
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 247 Scott Creighton 02-Feb-12 18:25
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 135 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 19:02
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 176 Gary Osborn 02-Feb-12 19:12
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 164 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 19:31
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 171 Gary Osborn 02-Feb-12 21:39
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 151 Scott Creighton 02-Feb-12 19:56
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 178 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 22:08
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 194 Scott Creighton 03-Feb-12 00:04
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 164 Ahatmose 03-Feb-12 00:14
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 155 Scott Creighton 03-Feb-12 00:25
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 177 Ahatmose 03-Feb-12 00:36
Re: Finding a starting point 179 Thunderbird 03-Feb-12 00:52
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 154 Audrey 03-Feb-12 02:41
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 109 Ahatmose 03-Feb-12 02:47
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 154 Ahatmose 03-Feb-12 02:54
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 129 Scott Creighton 03-Feb-12 10:02
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 177 Gary Osborn 02-Feb-12 16:57
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 109 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 17:43
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 148 Gary Osborn 02-Feb-12 18:13
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 165 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 18:20
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 166 Gary Osborn 02-Feb-12 18:28
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 175 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 19:11
BREAKING NEWS 162 Spiros 02-Feb-12 20:35
Re: BREAKING NEWS 163 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 22:12
Re: BREAKING NEWS 160 Spiros 02-Feb-12 22:40
Re: BREAKING NEWS 191 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 22:45
Re: BREAKING NEWS 181 Spiros 03-Feb-12 13:06
Re: BREAKING NEWS 178 Ahatmose 03-Feb-12 20:26
addendum 194 Ahatmose 03-Feb-12 21:13
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 163 cladking 03-Feb-12 00:52
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 181 Audrey 03-Feb-12 03:23
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 175 Ahatmose 03-Feb-12 03:37
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 177 Audrey 03-Feb-12 05:36
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 237 Spiros 02-Feb-12 15:13
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 174 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 15:50
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 176 Spiros 02-Feb-12 20:55
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 144 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 15:53
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 195 Gary Osborn 02-Feb-12 16:01
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 167 Spiros 02-Feb-12 19:58
the 727 AD alignment 156 Spiros 02-Feb-12 20:17
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 286 NetWorkAngel 03-Feb-12 04:49
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 169 Audrey 03-Feb-12 05:44
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 300 NetWorkAngel 03-Feb-12 05:48
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 192 Scott Creighton 03-Feb-12 12:35
Re: RVT vs Standard seed/grain storage. 162 Chris Jordan 03-Feb-12 13:13
Re: RVT vs Standard seed/grain storage. 189 Scott Creighton 03-Feb-12 14:43
Re: RVT vs Standard seed/grain storage. 201 Chris Jordan 03-Feb-12 18:12
Re: RVT vs Standard seed/grain storage. 161 Scott Creighton 03-Feb-12 18:50
Re: RVT vs Standard seed/grain storage. 181 Chris Jordan 03-Feb-12 19:30
Re: RVT vs Standard seed/grain storage. 157 Chris Jordan 04-Feb-12 19:24
Re: RVT vs Standard seed/grain storage. 206 Lothur 03-Feb-12 19:50
Re: RVT vs Standard seed/grain storage. 191 PsycheDelia Smith 03-Feb-12 21:10
Re: RVT vs Standard seed/grain storage. 191 Lothur 04-Feb-12 01:22
Re: RVT vs Standard seed/grain storage. 186 Scott Creighton 04-Feb-12 15:14
Re: RVT vs Standard seed/grain storage. 195 Lothur 04-Feb-12 16:28
Re: RVT vs Standard seed/grain storage. 174 Audrey 04-Feb-12 06:39
Re: RVT vs Standard seed/grain storage. 168 Scott Creighton 04-Feb-12 12:06
Re: RVT vs Standard seed/grain storage. 218 Lothur 04-Feb-12 16:25
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 174 Morten 04-Feb-12 03:59
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 182 Scott Creighton 04-Feb-12 14:47
The Dialogue of Ipuur 155 Morten 04-Feb-12 18:25
Re: The Dialogue of Ipuur 161 Scott Creighton 04-Feb-12 18:34
Re: The Dialogue of Ipuur 192 Morten 04-Feb-12 19:05
Exploratory or argumentative? 190 drrayeye 04-Feb-12 22:46
Re: Exploratory or argumentative? 156 Morten 05-Feb-12 11:02
Re: Exploratory or argumentative? 185 drrayeye 05-Feb-12 13:28
Re: Exploratory or argumentative? 196 Thunderbird 05-Feb-12 18:27
Re: The Dialogue of Ipuur 173 Gary Osborn 04-Feb-12 23:31
Re: The Dialogue of Ipuur 174 magisterchessmutt 05-Feb-12 02:46
Re: The Dialogue of Ipuur 182 Gary Osborn 05-Feb-12 14:29
Re: The Dialogue of Ipuur 172 magisterchessmutt 05-Feb-12 17:46
Re: The Dialogue of Ipuur 270 Gary Osborn 05-Feb-12 17:52
Re: The Dialogue of Ipuur 124 Morten 05-Feb-12 10:39
Re: The Dialogue of Ipuur 211 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-12 14:48
Re: The Dialogue of Ipuur 165 Gary Osborn 05-Feb-12 16:07
Re: The Dialogue of Ipuur 385 cladking 05-Feb-12 16:59
Pocket Fisherman ... 206 jnisbet 04-Feb-12 08:38
Re: Pocket Fisherman ... 163 Scott Creighton 04-Feb-12 15:00
On second thought .... 164 Ahatmose 05-Feb-12 02:05
Re: On second thought .... 179 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-12 13:27
Re: On second thought .... 217 jnisbet 05-Feb-12 13:34
Re: On second thought .... 186 Ahatmose 05-Feb-12 13:45
Re: On second thought .... 186 jnisbet 05-Feb-12 14:33
Re: On second thought .... 167 Ahatmose 05-Feb-12 14:47
Re: On second thought .... 119 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-12 14:53
Re: On second thought .... 181 Ahatmose 05-Feb-12 15:38
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 179 LonelyAngel 05-Feb-12 16:39
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 170 Gary Osborn 05-Feb-12 17:30
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 162 Glanymor1948 05-Feb-12 20:30
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 198 Scott Creighton 06-Feb-12 11:17
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 166 Audrey 11-Feb-12 19:53
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 182 Gary Osborn 11-Feb-12 22:05
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 169 Ahatmose 11-Feb-12 23:48
Re: What if they were not Egyptians? 151 Thunderbird 12-Feb-12 02:46
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 150 Scott Creighton 13-Feb-12 00:02
Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 184 cladking 22-Feb-12 22:45
Re: Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 132 Scott Creighton 23-Feb-12 11:12
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 189 Drewski 23-Feb-12 10:48
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 191 Scott Creighton 23-Feb-12 23:58
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 145 Drewski 24-Feb-12 01:15
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 140 Scott Creighton 24-Feb-12 10:50
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 187 BethSwiss 24-Feb-12 11:16
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 163 Gary Osborn 24-Feb-12 12:15
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 178 BethSwiss 24-Feb-12 17:48
Form follows function, etc. ... 190 jnisbet 26-Feb-12 05:08


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