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Hi Scott

Scott Creighton wrote:

>
> SC: We are discussing Recovery Vaults which typically would be
> quite different from a normal granary in that many other useful
> items would be stored e.g. vases, pots, plates, tools, weapons,
> important texts etc, etc. And seeds, of course.
>
The descriptions here can equally be applied to the Ziggurats of Babylon. The Babylonian Ziggurats housed 'vases, pots, plates, tools, weapons, important texts etc, etc. And seeds, of course.'. Even if we look to the Temples of Ra, which were huge solid constructs they were known to have stored seeds/grain and plenty of other garb from your list.

> SC: A typical ancient granary would not match the colossal size
> of the Pyramid Recovery Vaults. The Recovery Vaults had to be
> made highly visible in a barren landscape so that they could be
> easily found. Their internal storage chambers would require to
> be sealed with considerable security/blocking measures to
> deter/prevent casual looting. You would not find such heavy
> security measures in a typical granary.

The Babylonian food storage and distribution centers were absolutely massive and very well fortified. Excepting the size of the three Giza pyramids, I guess the Zigs would be at least around the same scale as the rest. Most food storage has to be sealed otherwise it would not protect the produce from mould, rats or bugs. Defensive measures would be a wise precaution since the people turn to these stores in times of famine or crop failure.

You get why I am asking for distinguishing features. Are you trying to change the view of these other ancient massive food storage and distribution centers to RVs as well? Or do you think there was a dual purpose both for ongoing and in the event of a catastrophe?


> SC: There are numerous silos around Djoser’s pyramid complex.
> Also, there are vast storage galleries a short distance to the
> west of G2.
>
Ancient Egypt was the bread basket of the ancient world, this would require absolutely massive sets of storage facilities, surely?
>
> SC: The large cache of wheat and barley seed found under the
> Step Pyramid (Saqqara) seem to have been perfectly preserved
> i.e. there does not seem to have been any damage by water
> ingress. Perhaps this is why all the Recovery Vaults were
> placed on high plateaus to guard against the rising Nile. The
> tightly fitted casing stones would also have been protection
> against rising waters. There is also good evidence to suggest
> that the items stored in the GP were placed there from the top
> of the pyramid (i.e. before the KC ceiling was set in place.).
> The three granite blocking slabs in the Ante Chamber would
> essentially hermetically seal the Grand Gallery.
>
I think your case is strong for seed storage on the step structures, in particular ones with access. These also have a food processing aspect in their original forms. I think less so in the case of Cheops. For a start the KC had 'air vents'/shafts or are you suggesting these were hermetically sealed. It would prove a huge leap of faith (maybe thats what you are saying) 'for the AE's to build that structure, put seeds in it and never look again. There were not piles of seeds found within the GP structures anyway. I hope you are not going to point to looters walking off with vases of seeds.
According to most engineers that have looked at the GP pyramids water was somehow involved at least to the level of the QC. This would be a disaster for food storage. The tightly fitted casing stones would keep the water inside the structure since these engineers posit it came from the well shaft within. Cladking has it rising to 60-70ft above the plateau as you know.
Sealed or tightly fitting granite boxes would be excellent for this storage task. Are you not turning to those found below ground for support?

On the prophetic side, I guess you have not found a mechanic, but a series of structure alignments to dates. I hope the 3rd date is not wednesday week, I am busy that day, lol.

Regards

Chris



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Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 427 Scott Creighton 01-Feb-12 18:39
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 148 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 05:35
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 158 Scott Creighton 02-Feb-12 13:38
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 151 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 14:11
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 160 Scott Creighton 02-Feb-12 14:29
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 156 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 14:53
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 170 Scott Creighton 02-Feb-12 15:20
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 161 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 15:31
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 163 Scott Creighton 02-Feb-12 16:01
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 165 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 16:27
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 149 Scott Creighton 02-Feb-12 16:48
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 166 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 16:59
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 145 Scott Creighton 02-Feb-12 17:19
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 148 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 17:35
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 132 Scott Creighton 02-Feb-12 17:54
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 129 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 18:07
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 221 Scott Creighton 02-Feb-12 18:25
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 111 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 19:02
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 153 Gary Osborn 02-Feb-12 19:12
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 145 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 19:31
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 151 Gary Osborn 02-Feb-12 21:39
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 127 Scott Creighton 02-Feb-12 19:56
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 158 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 22:08
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 176 Scott Creighton 03-Feb-12 00:04
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 146 Ahatmose 03-Feb-12 00:14
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 136 Scott Creighton 03-Feb-12 00:25
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 159 Ahatmose 03-Feb-12 00:36
Re: Finding a starting point 154 Thunderbird 03-Feb-12 00:52
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 136 Audrey 03-Feb-12 02:41
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 90 Ahatmose 03-Feb-12 02:47
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 137 Ahatmose 03-Feb-12 02:54
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 106 Scott Creighton 03-Feb-12 10:02
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 156 Gary Osborn 02-Feb-12 16:57
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 91 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 17:43
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 131 Gary Osborn 02-Feb-12 18:13
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 149 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 18:20
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 148 Gary Osborn 02-Feb-12 18:28
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 154 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 19:11
BREAKING NEWS 145 Spiros 02-Feb-12 20:35
Re: BREAKING NEWS 142 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 22:12
Re: BREAKING NEWS 142 Spiros 02-Feb-12 22:40
Re: BREAKING NEWS 173 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 22:45
Re: BREAKING NEWS 164 Spiros 03-Feb-12 13:06
Re: BREAKING NEWS 159 Ahatmose 03-Feb-12 20:26
addendum 173 Ahatmose 03-Feb-12 21:13
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 144 cladking 03-Feb-12 00:52
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 165 Audrey 03-Feb-12 03:23
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 155 Ahatmose 03-Feb-12 03:37
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 160 Audrey 03-Feb-12 05:36
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 216 Spiros 02-Feb-12 15:13
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 153 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 15:50
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 153 Spiros 02-Feb-12 20:55
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 123 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 15:53
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 177 Gary Osborn 02-Feb-12 16:01
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 148 Spiros 02-Feb-12 19:58
the 727 AD alignment 136 Spiros 02-Feb-12 20:17
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 268 NetWorkAngel 03-Feb-12 04:49
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 151 Audrey 03-Feb-12 05:44
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 268 NetWorkAngel 03-Feb-12 05:48
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 171 Scott Creighton 03-Feb-12 12:35
Re: RVT vs Standard seed/grain storage. 145 Chris Jordan 03-Feb-12 13:13
Re: RVT vs Standard seed/grain storage. 167 Scott Creighton 03-Feb-12 14:43
Re: RVT vs Standard seed/grain storage. 183 Chris Jordan 03-Feb-12 18:12
Re: RVT vs Standard seed/grain storage. 145 Scott Creighton 03-Feb-12 18:50
Re: RVT vs Standard seed/grain storage. 161 Chris Jordan 03-Feb-12 19:30
Re: RVT vs Standard seed/grain storage. 137 Chris Jordan 04-Feb-12 19:24
Re: RVT vs Standard seed/grain storage. 187 Lothur 03-Feb-12 19:50
Re: RVT vs Standard seed/grain storage. 174 PsycheDelia Smith 03-Feb-12 21:10
Re: RVT vs Standard seed/grain storage. 171 Lothur 04-Feb-12 01:22
Re: RVT vs Standard seed/grain storage. 160 Scott Creighton 04-Feb-12 15:14
Re: RVT vs Standard seed/grain storage. 179 Lothur 04-Feb-12 16:28
Re: RVT vs Standard seed/grain storage. 150 Audrey 04-Feb-12 06:39
Re: RVT vs Standard seed/grain storage. 152 Scott Creighton 04-Feb-12 12:06
Re: RVT vs Standard seed/grain storage. 192 Lothur 04-Feb-12 16:25
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 155 Morten 04-Feb-12 03:59
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 164 Scott Creighton 04-Feb-12 14:47
The Dialogue of Ipuur 138 Morten 04-Feb-12 18:25
Re: The Dialogue of Ipuur 142 Scott Creighton 04-Feb-12 18:34
Re: The Dialogue of Ipuur 173 Morten 04-Feb-12 19:05
Exploratory or argumentative? 172 drrayeye 04-Feb-12 22:46
Re: Exploratory or argumentative? 140 Morten 05-Feb-12 11:02
Re: Exploratory or argumentative? 159 drrayeye 05-Feb-12 13:28
Re: Exploratory or argumentative? 177 Thunderbird 05-Feb-12 18:27
Re: The Dialogue of Ipuur 146 Gary Osborn 04-Feb-12 23:31
Re: The Dialogue of Ipuur 157 magisterchessmutt 05-Feb-12 02:46
Re: The Dialogue of Ipuur 163 Gary Osborn 05-Feb-12 14:29
Re: The Dialogue of Ipuur 154 magisterchessmutt 05-Feb-12 17:46
Re: The Dialogue of Ipuur 248 Gary Osborn 05-Feb-12 17:52
Re: The Dialogue of Ipuur 107 Morten 05-Feb-12 10:39
Re: The Dialogue of Ipuur 189 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-12 14:48
Re: The Dialogue of Ipuur 144 Gary Osborn 05-Feb-12 16:07
Re: The Dialogue of Ipuur 364 cladking 05-Feb-12 16:59
Pocket Fisherman ... 182 jnisbet 04-Feb-12 08:38
Re: Pocket Fisherman ... 144 Scott Creighton 04-Feb-12 15:00
On second thought .... 142 Ahatmose 05-Feb-12 02:05
Re: On second thought .... 156 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-12 13:27
Re: On second thought .... 194 jnisbet 05-Feb-12 13:34
Re: On second thought .... 160 Ahatmose 05-Feb-12 13:45
Re: On second thought .... 167 jnisbet 05-Feb-12 14:33
Re: On second thought .... 148 Ahatmose 05-Feb-12 14:47
Re: On second thought .... 103 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-12 14:53
Re: On second thought .... 164 Ahatmose 05-Feb-12 15:38
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 161 LonelyAngel 05-Feb-12 16:39
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 142 Gary Osborn 05-Feb-12 17:30
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 141 Glanymor1948 05-Feb-12 20:30
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 180 Scott Creighton 06-Feb-12 11:17
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 146 Audrey 11-Feb-12 19:53
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 159 Gary Osborn 11-Feb-12 22:05
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 153 Ahatmose 11-Feb-12 23:48
Re: What if they were not Egyptians? 135 Thunderbird 12-Feb-12 02:46
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 129 Scott Creighton 13-Feb-12 00:02
Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 165 cladking 22-Feb-12 22:45
Re: Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 115 Scott Creighton 23-Feb-12 11:12
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 170 Drewski 23-Feb-12 10:48
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 173 Scott Creighton 23-Feb-12 23:58
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 128 Drewski 24-Feb-12 01:15
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 117 Scott Creighton 24-Feb-12 10:50
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 169 BethSwiss 24-Feb-12 11:16
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 145 Gary Osborn 24-Feb-12 12:15
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 158 BethSwiss 24-Feb-12 17:48
Form follows function, etc. ... 175 jnisbet 26-Feb-12 05:08


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