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dmduncan wrote:

> Carol, so you want photographic evidence of our artifacts left
> on the moon before you believe we went there, and that all the
> mountains of evidence that we went are actually true?

As I said before, I've seen plenty of evidence that we went, but on the other hand, I've seen conflicting evidence too - an example being the video of the 'wires' supporting the astronauts, which as Scott says, may well be just NASA disinformation, and the video I linked to, from NASA itself, discussing the fact that they can't go to the moon or Mars until the radiation problem is solved. This wouldn't be an issue if they had gone there. They'd have solved the problem already.
>
> What will prevent doubts arising about the authenticity of the
> photographs you would accept, if not by you, then by someone
> else? How could you know that ANY photograph which was
> produced by ANY agency in the world was NOT also produced by
> someone who was "in" on the conspiracy.
>
> Further, how could you possibly justify believing these new
> photographs, but not all of the others produced by a genuine
> mission to the moon?
>
Again, we have what appears to be NASA disinformation, with the ongoing discussion of the 'original' and 'tampered' photo in the "What Lunar Structure?" thread. Why are there two versions of the same photo? What's the point of NASA's disinformation? If they went to the moon, great! Why leak disinformation to plant the seeds of doubt? What's the need for that?

> It seems to me that you would simply be stopping your
> skepticism somewhere arbitrary, without any regard for facts at
> all, because a new conspiracy could be imagined around ANY and
> ALL new evidence too, effectively rendering it impossible to
> "prove" that we went to the moon to anyone who really wanted to
> disbelieve it.

Yes, that's true. It's a very valid point, and one which I was thinking of, but didn't express when I wrote earlier. I really don't have a clear answer to that.

>
> So that if you, as a serious doubter, at any point start to
> believe we went to the moon, it is NOT because of any real fact
> which convinced you, but because you DECIDED to let go of your
> extreme skepticism and paranoia, so that facts could start to
> appear to you.

Paranoia? I'm not paranoid! I'm sceptical, that's all!
>
> Extreme skepticism, whether it is about moon landings, ghosts,
> flying saucers, or Atlantis, actually PREVENTS you from seeing
> facts, it doesn't help you to see them.
>
No, it prevents gullibility from taking over.

> It may be that there is no greater hurdle between a person and
> a fact than extreme skepticism, and its cousin defect, extreme
> gullibility.

There's nothing wrong with healthy scepticism. Gullibility is not on the same level as a healthy dose of scepticism.


Carol


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But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 344 Ahatmose 06-Dec-07 11:49
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 101 RichardHoagland 06-Dec-07 21:26
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 263 Scott Creighton 06-Dec-07 23:50
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 228 RichardHoagland 07-Dec-07 00:01
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 167 colt 07-Dec-07 00:51
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 146 Scott Creighton 07-Dec-07 10:16
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 147 Ahatmose 07-Dec-07 03:26
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 125 quixote 07-Dec-07 04:13
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 233 RichardHoagland 07-Dec-07 08:11
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 115 quixote 07-Dec-07 14:56
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 110 RichardHoagland 07-Dec-07 07:35
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 140 Ahatmose 07-Dec-07 16:38
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 156 MALaclypse 13-Dec-07 03:03
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 155 Ahatmose 13-Dec-07 12:14
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 254 SphinxGirl 13-Dec-07 13:54
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 201 SphinxGirl 13-Dec-07 05:52
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 205 SphinxGirl 07-Dec-07 06:59
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 162 Ahatmose 07-Dec-07 15:34
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 215 SphinxGirl 07-Dec-07 18:01
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 112 quixote 08-Dec-07 01:51
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 242 carolb 08-Dec-07 14:45
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 96 quixote 09-Dec-07 02:27
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 207 dmduncan 09-Dec-07 03:01
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 180 Ahatmose 09-Dec-07 13:39
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 225 dmduncan 09-Dec-07 16:42
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Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 158 carolb 09-Dec-07 20:09
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 73 quixote 12-Dec-07 01:27
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Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 160 Hoppy 12-Dec-07 21:28
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Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 140 dmduncan 12-Dec-07 23:25
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 217 carolb 13-Dec-07 00:57
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 272 dmduncan 08-Dec-07 22:27
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 63 quixote 09-Dec-07 00:40
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 217 dmduncan 09-Dec-07 02:37
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 209 MALaclypse 13-Dec-07 03:31
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 251 Hoppy 08-Dec-07 02:25
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Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 157 Ahatmose 08-Dec-07 03:17
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 70 quixote 09-Dec-07 02:43
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 104 Ahatmose 09-Dec-07 14:02
The Bluffing Game 150 Scott Creighton 09-Dec-07 15:28
Re: The Bluffing Game 176 Ahatmose 09-Dec-07 15:37
Re: The Bluffing Game 202 Scott Creighton 09-Dec-07 15:54
Re: The Bluffing Game 166 Ahatmose 09-Dec-07 16:07
Re: The Bluffing Game 266 Scott Creighton 09-Dec-07 16:19
Re: The Bluffing Game 203 carolb 09-Dec-07 20:18
Re: The Bluffing Game 207 Scott Creighton 09-Dec-07 22:08
Re: The Bluffing Game 202 carolb 11-Dec-07 14:31
Re: The Bluffing Game 249 enigmaman 11-Dec-07 21:49
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 127 quixote 09-Dec-07 15:39
Moon rocks too? 74 quixote 09-Dec-07 16:07
Re: Moon rocks too? 170 Ahatmose 09-Dec-07 16:09
Re: Moon rocks too? 61 quixote 09-Dec-07 16:21
Re: Moon rocks too? 214 Ahatmose 09-Dec-07 16:36
Re: Moon rocks too? 123 dmduncan 09-Dec-07 16:55
Re: Moon rocks too? 288 Ahatmose 09-Dec-07 17:48
Re: Moon rocks too? 145 Houcad 09-Dec-07 17:54
Re: Moon rocks too? 188 Ahatmose 09-Dec-07 18:05
Re: Moon rocks too? 194 Hoppy 09-Dec-07 18:52
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 258 SphinxGirl 09-Dec-07 15:17
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 199 Richard Fusniak 11-Dec-07 02:34
Richard 127 quixote 11-Dec-07 03:11
Re: Richard 153 carolb 11-Dec-07 14:32
Re: Richard 138 SphinxGirl 11-Dec-07 16:55
Re: Richard 197 Ahatmose 11-Dec-07 17:06
Re: Richard 268 SphinxGirl 11-Dec-07 18:56
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