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But, Jim,

This debate is not over symbolism. I have no argument with you there. This debate is over whether or not The Founding Fathers recognized God in the Constitution. I advise you to read the Federalist Papers link on that site I gave you to get a better understanding of what the Founders were trying to establish and what they actually thought.

I agree that the Bible contains much symbolism and "figure of speech." If you read my posts you will see I promote the symbolism in the Bible.

But to state that the Bible is completely symbolic is just as frivilous as those who profess that the Bible should be taken in complete literal terms.

The Bible is a combination of literal historical events and symbolic and archetypal meanings. There are astrological and astronomical symbols as well as "figures of speech" with literal under and overtones. But to say that the people or events did not take place is to also ignore the historical and archaeological records of Ancient Egypt which are the same records as the first half of the Bible. (the names have been changed, but it is the record of the same people)

History becomes legend, legend becomes myth, then all together forgotten. When they are rediscovered, they are oftentimes hard to believe. But that doesn't mean they did not take place. So Moses faced "glowed". Are you denying the possibility of a "supernatural" event? Then you deny all things in nature that "glow". His face "shone" because he was exposed to something "supernatural" (that is, that which is beyond our understanding of natural). Why is this so hard to believe for you?

Did meteors fall to the earth back then? Of course they did. Look at the story of Sodom and Gomorrah. Natural events did take place, albeit, with the help of a Supreme Advanced Being whom we call God. And the stories in the Bible are the records of these events. I don't believe the earth was created in a literal six days. In six ages, maybe, but not six days.

You are free as always to believe what you want.

kind regards,
Kim

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Christians & the "End of Days" 491 SunSword 04-Apr-05 20:28
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 239 Paoputzu 04-Apr-05 23:36
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 229 Kboldt 05-Apr-05 17:18
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 257 Paoputzu 07-Apr-05 12:14
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 173 Jaimi2 05-Apr-05 16:30
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 184 whytebyrd 05-Apr-05 17:41
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 245 Kboldt 05-Apr-05 18:12
I would like to add... 251 Kboldt 06-Apr-05 14:24
And I would like to add... 230 Lee McGiffen 06-Apr-05 16:00
Re: And I would like to add... 230 Kboldt 06-Apr-05 18:06
Re: And I would like to add... 199 JimLewandowski 06-Apr-05 18:18
Re: And I would like to add... 241 Kboldt 06-Apr-05 18:47
Re: And I would like to add... 165 JimLewandowski 06-Apr-05 18:54
Re: And I would like to add... 230 SunSword 06-Apr-05 19:46
Re: And I would like to add... 167 JimLewandowski 06-Apr-05 19:55
Re: And I would like to add... 206 Cesar 06-Apr-05 22:44
more of a deistic take on things 185 JimLewandowski 07-Apr-05 15:22
Re: And I would like to add... 278 Briffits 09-Apr-05 10:26
Re: And I would like to add... 206 Lee McGiffen 12-Apr-05 11:45
Re: And I would like to add... 203 Kboldt 12-Apr-05 13:10
you can approach this "problem" in 3 ways 166 JimLewandowski 12-Apr-05 16:43
Re: you can approach this "problem" in 3 ways 226 Kboldt 12-Apr-05 17:00
Re: you can approach this "problem" in 3 ways 174 JimLewandowski 12-Apr-05 19:00
Re: you can approach this "problem" in 3 ways 224 Kboldt 12-Apr-05 19:56
Re: you can approach this "problem" in 3 ways 182 JimLewandowski 12-Apr-05 20:13
Re: you can approach this "problem" in 3 ways 181 Cesar 12-Apr-05 20:40
Re: you can approach this "problem" in 3 ways 226 Kboldt 12-Apr-05 20:44
I've always felt the phrase "all men are created equal" 177 JimLewandowski 12-Apr-05 23:07
Re: I've always felt the phrase "all men are created equal" 203 Cesar 13-Apr-05 09:45
Re: And I would like to add... 209 SunSword 12-Apr-05 14:06
Re: And I would like to add... 188 Lee McGiffen 13-Apr-05 10:55
then why would Jefferson CUT out of the bible 172 JimLewandowski 06-Apr-05 17:32
Re: then why would Jefferson CUT out of the bible 250 Kboldt 06-Apr-05 18:12
Re: then why would Jefferson CUT out of the bible 195 JimLewandowski 06-Apr-05 18:16
Re: then why would Jefferson CUT out of the bible 177 Joyeuse 09-Apr-05 02:21
forgot the link for information 160 Joyeuse 09-Apr-05 02:36
Re: then why would Jefferson CUT out of the bible 165 Farseeker 11-Apr-05 19:15
in the end, it's all geography 187 JimLewandowski 11-Apr-05 20:57
Re: in the end, it's all geography 167 Farseeker 11-Apr-05 21:28
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 174 Diomede 05-Apr-05 22:10
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 187 Gordon Strachan 07-Apr-05 16:13
No real percentage increase in Evangelical vote for Bush in 2004 232 SunSword 07-Apr-05 17:24
Re: No real percentage increase in Evangelical vote for Bush in 2004 182 Paoputzu 08-Apr-05 01:58
Re: No real percentage increase in Evangelical vote for Bush in 2004 206 SunSword 08-Apr-05 15:09
Re: No real percentage increase in Evangelical vote for Bush in 2004 161 Paoputzu 08-Apr-05 16:39
fundamentalism is on the rise around the globe 169 JimLewandowski 08-Apr-05 17:07
The End is coming... 199 Lee McGiffen 09-Apr-05 08:20
Re: The End is coming... 174 JamesH 09-Apr-05 14:37
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 178 Kattmanndoo 15-Apr-05 03:12
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 198 Cesar 15-Apr-05 07:36
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 160 Gordon Strachan 15-Apr-05 17:11
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 209 SunSword 15-Apr-05 17:20
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 233 Kboldt 15-Apr-05 18:05
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 173 Gordon Strachan 18-Apr-05 15:35
Neo-Cons & "Apocolyptic" Christians 203 SunSword 18-Apr-05 16:41
According to a Newsweek poll... 163 David L 18-Apr-05 22:54
Re: According to a Newsweek poll... 163 Joyeuse 19-Apr-05 00:32
Re: According to a Newsweek poll... 156 JimLewandowski 19-Apr-05 04:18
Re: According to a Newsweek poll... 154 Joyeuse 20-Apr-05 02:49
Re: According to a Newsweek poll... 211 SunSword 20-Apr-05 14:16
Re: According to a Newsweek poll... 171 Joyeuse 21-Apr-05 01:07
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 174 Gordon Strachan 21-Apr-05 15:08
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 215 Paoputzu 21-Apr-05 15:57
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 201 SunSword 21-Apr-05 16:10
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 224 Gordon Strachan 26-Apr-05 14:52


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