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JimLewandowski wrote:

> Jefferson accepts the DOCTRINES of Jesus (sermon on the Mount)
> but NOT his divinity. HUGE difference between your and my
> definition of Christian.

Jefferson never stated that Jesus was not Divine. I challenge you to find these words in anything he wrote. I've gone over everything I can find on Jefferson. I don't see it anywhere.

You have to understand me. I thought he was a "deist" as well until I did some investigation. I'm only interested in the truth.

you stated:
> Jefferson also had slaves (i.e. not Christian in his ACTIONS).

Perfection is not a prerequisite of being a Christian, only to believe and follow as best you can. I do not promote that Jefferson was a perfect man. Only the truth about him. To say that he wasn't a good man is to say that King Solomon or King David weren't good either because they had many wives and children. Or because David sent Bathsheba's husband off to be killed in war. Yet God still loved and blessed them. Jefferson was a "sinner" just like the rest of us. The Bible preaches that "all men fall short of the glory of God". It makes no pretense otherwise.

PBS presented a show about 6 months ago on Thomas Jefferson. It seems that his slaves were treated as paid servents. The archaeological dig revealed that the slaves/servants owned valuable personal property. Valuables such as gold coins, porcelainware, clothing, etc. The investigation showed that they all ate very well, also. He did need them to tend his large self-supportive farm and they were well taken care of.

Jefferson loved and fathered children with one of his slaves Sally Hemings after his wife's death. He was a lonely man. But the fact that her children also inherited his personal property is proof that he was good man and he considered her of high esteem. And his slaves were set free upon his death. But most stayed on as hired servants because they loved Monticello.

kind regards,
Kim

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Christians & the "End of Days" 491 SunSword 04-Apr-05 20:28
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 240 Paoputzu 04-Apr-05 23:36
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 230 Kboldt 05-Apr-05 17:18
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 257 Paoputzu 07-Apr-05 12:14
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 174 Jaimi2 05-Apr-05 16:30
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 185 whytebyrd 05-Apr-05 17:41
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 246 Kboldt 05-Apr-05 18:12
I would like to add... 252 Kboldt 06-Apr-05 14:24
And I would like to add... 231 Lee McGiffen 06-Apr-05 16:00
Re: And I would like to add... 231 Kboldt 06-Apr-05 18:06
Re: And I would like to add... 199 JimLewandowski 06-Apr-05 18:18
Re: And I would like to add... 241 Kboldt 06-Apr-05 18:47
Re: And I would like to add... 165 JimLewandowski 06-Apr-05 18:54
Re: And I would like to add... 230 SunSword 06-Apr-05 19:46
Re: And I would like to add... 167 JimLewandowski 06-Apr-05 19:55
Re: And I would like to add... 206 Cesar 06-Apr-05 22:44
more of a deistic take on things 185 JimLewandowski 07-Apr-05 15:22
Re: And I would like to add... 278 Briffits 09-Apr-05 10:26
Re: And I would like to add... 206 Lee McGiffen 12-Apr-05 11:45
Re: And I would like to add... 203 Kboldt 12-Apr-05 13:10
you can approach this "problem" in 3 ways 166 JimLewandowski 12-Apr-05 16:43
Re: you can approach this "problem" in 3 ways 226 Kboldt 12-Apr-05 17:00
Re: you can approach this "problem" in 3 ways 174 JimLewandowski 12-Apr-05 19:00
Re: you can approach this "problem" in 3 ways 225 Kboldt 12-Apr-05 19:56
Re: you can approach this "problem" in 3 ways 182 JimLewandowski 12-Apr-05 20:13
Re: you can approach this "problem" in 3 ways 182 Cesar 12-Apr-05 20:40
Re: you can approach this "problem" in 3 ways 227 Kboldt 12-Apr-05 20:44
I've always felt the phrase "all men are created equal" 177 JimLewandowski 12-Apr-05 23:07
Re: I've always felt the phrase "all men are created equal" 204 Cesar 13-Apr-05 09:45
Re: And I would like to add... 209 SunSword 12-Apr-05 14:06
Re: And I would like to add... 189 Lee McGiffen 13-Apr-05 10:55
then why would Jefferson CUT out of the bible 172 JimLewandowski 06-Apr-05 17:32
Re: then why would Jefferson CUT out of the bible 251 Kboldt 06-Apr-05 18:12
Re: then why would Jefferson CUT out of the bible 195 JimLewandowski 06-Apr-05 18:16
Re: then why would Jefferson CUT out of the bible 177 Joyeuse 09-Apr-05 02:21
forgot the link for information 160 Joyeuse 09-Apr-05 02:36
Re: then why would Jefferson CUT out of the bible 165 Farseeker 11-Apr-05 19:15
in the end, it's all geography 187 JimLewandowski 11-Apr-05 20:57
Re: in the end, it's all geography 167 Farseeker 11-Apr-05 21:28
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 175 Diomede 05-Apr-05 22:10
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 187 Gordon Strachan 07-Apr-05 16:13
No real percentage increase in Evangelical vote for Bush in 2004 232 SunSword 07-Apr-05 17:24
Re: No real percentage increase in Evangelical vote for Bush in 2004 182 Paoputzu 08-Apr-05 01:58
Re: No real percentage increase in Evangelical vote for Bush in 2004 206 SunSword 08-Apr-05 15:09
Re: No real percentage increase in Evangelical vote for Bush in 2004 161 Paoputzu 08-Apr-05 16:39
fundamentalism is on the rise around the globe 169 JimLewandowski 08-Apr-05 17:07
The End is coming... 199 Lee McGiffen 09-Apr-05 08:20
Re: The End is coming... 174 JamesH 09-Apr-05 14:37
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 179 Kattmanndoo 15-Apr-05 03:12
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 199 Cesar 15-Apr-05 07:36
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 161 Gordon Strachan 15-Apr-05 17:11
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 210 SunSword 15-Apr-05 17:20
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 234 Kboldt 15-Apr-05 18:05
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 173 Gordon Strachan 18-Apr-05 15:35
Neo-Cons & "Apocolyptic" Christians 203 SunSword 18-Apr-05 16:41
According to a Newsweek poll... 163 David L 18-Apr-05 22:54
Re: According to a Newsweek poll... 163 Joyeuse 19-Apr-05 00:32
Re: According to a Newsweek poll... 156 JimLewandowski 19-Apr-05 04:18
Re: According to a Newsweek poll... 154 Joyeuse 20-Apr-05 02:49
Re: According to a Newsweek poll... 211 SunSword 20-Apr-05 14:16
Re: According to a Newsweek poll... 171 Joyeuse 21-Apr-05 01:07
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 174 Gordon Strachan 21-Apr-05 15:08
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 215 Paoputzu 21-Apr-05 15:57
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 201 SunSword 21-Apr-05 16:10
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 224 Gordon Strachan 26-Apr-05 14:52


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