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Gordon Strachan stated:
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The concept of the “End of Days” is common parlance in America, where between 60 and 100 million Christians believe that it means the end of the world and they can see signs of its approach in the rise of the anti-Christ in the shape of Islamic terrorists and the Axis of Evil. These forces will be pitched against the USA, Britain and Israel - the armies of Christ - and sooner or later they will meet in Israel on the plains of Megiddo at Armageddon as prophesied in Revelation 16:16.

I think this is quite a "strawman" argument, for the following reasons.
1st, it is true that probably 60M or more American Christians _do_ believe in an "end times scenario". However, the following is _not_ true, and and this is why Mr. Strachan has put up a strawman argument.

(a) It is not true that those same 60M+ American believers think that the "anti-Christ [is rising] in the shape of Islamic terrorists and the Axis of Evil". Some do -- most don't.

(b) It is not true that those same 60M+ American Christians perceive "the USA, Britain and Israel [to be] the armies of Christ"

Simple facts are -- there are probably a few million that do believe (a) is true, and a few million that believe (b) is true -- but those aren't necessarily the same sets of people. And the number is WAY less than the suggested 60M to 100M.

In fact, the majority of Christians do believe in figures of speech, and allegory -- and even the Evangelicals, Pentacostalists, and Charismatics believe this. It is absolutely true that they all believe in a literal "End Times" -- but don't get sucked into believing that they all therefore think it is just around the corner (although it might be), or that Islamic terrorists are the Anti-Christ (they don't believe that at all), or that there is some special deal for the USA, the UK, and Israel (since they know very well that most of the real Christians today are in South America, Africa, Indonesia, and Asia together)!

Just as a perspective of the USA is completely bent if all you see is Hollywood movies and shows and assume that what they show is America -- so is a view of American Christians if all you see is the big media figureheads and their self-serving blather.


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Subject Views Written By Posted
Christians & the "End of Days" 490 SunSword 04-Apr-05 20:28
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 239 Paoputzu 04-Apr-05 23:36
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 229 Kboldt 05-Apr-05 17:18
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 257 Paoputzu 07-Apr-05 12:14
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 173 Jaimi2 05-Apr-05 16:30
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 184 whytebyrd 05-Apr-05 17:41
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 245 Kboldt 05-Apr-05 18:12
I would like to add... 251 Kboldt 06-Apr-05 14:24
And I would like to add... 230 Lee McGiffen 06-Apr-05 16:00
Re: And I would like to add... 230 Kboldt 06-Apr-05 18:06
Re: And I would like to add... 199 JimLewandowski 06-Apr-05 18:18
Re: And I would like to add... 241 Kboldt 06-Apr-05 18:47
Re: And I would like to add... 165 JimLewandowski 06-Apr-05 18:54
Re: And I would like to add... 230 SunSword 06-Apr-05 19:46
Re: And I would like to add... 167 JimLewandowski 06-Apr-05 19:55
Re: And I would like to add... 206 Cesar 06-Apr-05 22:44
more of a deistic take on things 185 JimLewandowski 07-Apr-05 15:22
Re: And I would like to add... 278 Briffits 09-Apr-05 10:26
Re: And I would like to add... 206 Lee McGiffen 12-Apr-05 11:45
Re: And I would like to add... 203 Kboldt 12-Apr-05 13:10
you can approach this "problem" in 3 ways 166 JimLewandowski 12-Apr-05 16:43
Re: you can approach this "problem" in 3 ways 226 Kboldt 12-Apr-05 17:00
Re: you can approach this "problem" in 3 ways 174 JimLewandowski 12-Apr-05 19:00
Re: you can approach this "problem" in 3 ways 224 Kboldt 12-Apr-05 19:56
Re: you can approach this "problem" in 3 ways 182 JimLewandowski 12-Apr-05 20:13
Re: you can approach this "problem" in 3 ways 181 Cesar 12-Apr-05 20:40
Re: you can approach this "problem" in 3 ways 226 Kboldt 12-Apr-05 20:44
I've always felt the phrase "all men are created equal" 177 JimLewandowski 12-Apr-05 23:07
Re: I've always felt the phrase "all men are created equal" 203 Cesar 13-Apr-05 09:45
Re: And I would like to add... 209 SunSword 12-Apr-05 14:06
Re: And I would like to add... 188 Lee McGiffen 13-Apr-05 10:55
then why would Jefferson CUT out of the bible 172 JimLewandowski 06-Apr-05 17:32
Re: then why would Jefferson CUT out of the bible 250 Kboldt 06-Apr-05 18:12
Re: then why would Jefferson CUT out of the bible 195 JimLewandowski 06-Apr-05 18:16
Re: then why would Jefferson CUT out of the bible 177 Joyeuse 09-Apr-05 02:21
forgot the link for information 160 Joyeuse 09-Apr-05 02:36
Re: then why would Jefferson CUT out of the bible 165 Farseeker 11-Apr-05 19:15
in the end, it's all geography 187 JimLewandowski 11-Apr-05 20:57
Re: in the end, it's all geography 167 Farseeker 11-Apr-05 21:28
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 174 Diomede 05-Apr-05 22:10
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 187 Gordon Strachan 07-Apr-05 16:13
No real percentage increase in Evangelical vote for Bush in 2004 232 SunSword 07-Apr-05 17:24
Re: No real percentage increase in Evangelical vote for Bush in 2004 182 Paoputzu 08-Apr-05 01:58
Re: No real percentage increase in Evangelical vote for Bush in 2004 206 SunSword 08-Apr-05 15:09
Re: No real percentage increase in Evangelical vote for Bush in 2004 161 Paoputzu 08-Apr-05 16:39
fundamentalism is on the rise around the globe 169 JimLewandowski 08-Apr-05 17:07
The End is coming... 199 Lee McGiffen 09-Apr-05 08:20
Re: The End is coming... 174 JamesH 09-Apr-05 14:37
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 178 Kattmanndoo 15-Apr-05 03:12
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 198 Cesar 15-Apr-05 07:36
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 160 Gordon Strachan 15-Apr-05 17:11
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 209 SunSword 15-Apr-05 17:20
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 233 Kboldt 15-Apr-05 18:05
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 173 Gordon Strachan 18-Apr-05 15:35
Neo-Cons & "Apocolyptic" Christians 203 SunSword 18-Apr-05 16:41
According to a Newsweek poll... 163 David L 18-Apr-05 22:54
Re: According to a Newsweek poll... 163 Joyeuse 19-Apr-05 00:32
Re: According to a Newsweek poll... 156 JimLewandowski 19-Apr-05 04:18
Re: According to a Newsweek poll... 154 Joyeuse 20-Apr-05 02:49
Re: According to a Newsweek poll... 211 SunSword 20-Apr-05 14:16
Re: According to a Newsweek poll... 171 Joyeuse 21-Apr-05 01:07
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 174 Gordon Strachan 21-Apr-05 15:08
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 215 Paoputzu 21-Apr-05 15:57
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 201 SunSword 21-Apr-05 16:10
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 223 Gordon Strachan 26-Apr-05 14:52


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