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Hi Lee,

Sorry if I seemed rude. You started off on the the blood being some type of pigment, and the C-14 date as making it an obvious fraud. I guess I was a little irritated that you had no basis but heresay for these claims. As you will see in other posts, the shroud underwent an extensive study in 1978. 50 scientists performed a battery of tests and found no pigments. The blood stains were verified to be real, and the image was shown not to be scorch marks or body oils. In fact, the only explanation for the image was that it might be from some type of radiation source, and they couldn't exactly explain that either. All this information is readily available and many research papers have been done. When the C-14 test was done in 1988, it showed an age of about 728 years, and most people dropped the issue as unimportant. But that still did not explain the image. In fact, the mystery of the shroud seems to deepen with time. It was discovered that iradiating the image with polarized light produced skeletal features. More recent developments in the C-14 testing of textiles has also put some doubt on the validity of the original test due to bacterial contamination.
( Old cloth develops a coating of accumulated bacteria that is not easy to clean off, which affects the C-14 test.)
So, what does it prove? It doesn't prove that Jesus lived or anything like that. I think it speaks quite eloquently for itself. The joke is on us! Paul

Lee McGiffen wrote:
>
> Paul Cochrane wrote:
> >
> > Gosh Lee,
> >
> > I am rather shocked that you so quickly brush off
> > scientific facts. But it is a free land and you can believe
> > whatever you want.
>
> Can you be more explicit? What specific scientific facts have
> I brushed off?
>
> > Are you a member of the flat earth society?
>
> No, are you?

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The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 1638 Paul Cochrane 27-Feb-04 06:28
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 412 Anne-Marie 27-Feb-04 07:13
Moderator Note 396 Jaimi 27-Feb-04 21:17
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 396 Lee McGiffen 27-Feb-04 12:32
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 450 Kboldt 27-Feb-04 14:00
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 400 fiascohoho 27-Feb-04 14:49
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 417 Lee McGiffen 27-Feb-04 15:10
D'Adamo... talk about synchronicity 463 ananda 27-Feb-04 16:33
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 377 fiascohoho 27-Feb-04 16:35
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 621 SunSword 27-Feb-04 18:36
Need source for your claim 431 ananda 27-Feb-04 18:57
Re: Need source for your claim 444 SunSword 27-Feb-04 22:19
No source or evidence? 457 ananda 27-Feb-04 22:44
Re: No source or evidence? 403 fiascohoho 28-Feb-04 00:10
Re: No source or evidence? 474 SunSword 28-Feb-04 00:40
Re: Need source for your claim 446 Zosimos 27-Feb-04 23:04
Re: Need source for your claim 432 ananda 28-Feb-04 00:44
Are you assuming... 349 ananda 29-Feb-04 20:15
Re: Are you assuming... 385 SunSword 01-Mar-04 14:39
Re: Are you assuming... 407 ArmchairObserver 01-Mar-04 15:50
Re: Are you assuming... 392 SunSword 01-Mar-04 17:23
Re: Need source for your claim 299 Paul Cochrane 28-Feb-04 04:26
Blood Types 436 jameske 28-Feb-04 15:51
Re: Blood Types 432 Lee McGiffen 29-Feb-04 12:30
Re: Blood Types 335 jameske 29-Feb-04 14:40
Re: Blood Types 442 ananda 29-Feb-04 15:36
Re: Blood Types 418 jameske 01-Mar-04 14:09
Re: Blood Types 426 SunSword 29-Feb-04 18:15
Re: Blood Types 429 jameske 01-Mar-04 14:03
Re: Blood Types 404 Paul Cochrane 01-Mar-04 03:16
Re: Blood Types 448 Lee McGiffen 01-Mar-04 11:32
Re: Blood Types 731 Paul Cochrane 03-Mar-04 01:09
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 398 ArmchairObserver 27-Feb-04 16:15
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 417 ananda 27-Feb-04 16:44
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 438 ArmchairObserver 27-Feb-04 17:40
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 416 Paul Cochrane 28-Feb-04 04:48
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 470 Paul Cochrane 28-Feb-04 04:43
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 426 Paul Cochrane 28-Feb-04 04:18
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 427 Mark Staab 27-Feb-04 16:48
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 438 Paul Cochrane 28-Feb-04 04:55
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 387 Mark Staab 28-Feb-04 05:43
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 424 Paul Cochrane 28-Feb-04 06:22
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 444 Zosimos 27-Feb-04 17:01
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 408 Mark Staab 27-Feb-04 17:17
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 445 Zosimos 27-Feb-04 18:25
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 478 Mark Staab 27-Feb-04 19:53
Mod remark 437 Kees 27-Feb-04 20:13
Re: Mod remark 464 Mark Staab 27-Feb-04 22:08
Re: Mod remark 386 Zosimos 27-Feb-04 22:36
Re: Mod remark 404 Mark Staab 27-Feb-04 23:27
Moderator note 423 Jaimi 28-Feb-04 04:29
Re: Moderator note 409 Mark Staab 28-Feb-04 05:46
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 439 Paul Cochrane 28-Feb-04 05:08
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 409 fisherman 27-Feb-04 17:41
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 417 Paul Cochrane 28-Feb-04 05:41
Belief, Proof and what does it matter 402 Elizabeth Newton 29-Feb-04 06:54
Re: Belief, Proof and what does it matter 389 fiascohoho 29-Feb-04 08:30
Re: Belief, Proof and what does it matter 414 Elizabeth Newton 29-Feb-04 11:52
Re: Belief, Proof and what does it matter 425 Elizabeth Newton 29-Feb-04 14:07
Re: Belief, Proof and what does it matter 428 fiascohoho 29-Feb-04 15:40
Re: Belief, Proof and what does it matter 430 Paul Cochrane 01-Mar-04 03:56
Re: Belief, Proof and what does it matter 393 Paul Cochrane 01-Mar-04 03:32
Re: Belief, Proof and what does it matter 423 Elizabeth Newton 01-Mar-04 15:00
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 432 Trygve Hogebol 29-Feb-04 18:37
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 357 Paul Cochrane 01-Mar-04 04:24


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