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Hi Elizabeth,

The premise of the original thread was the idea that the shroud looks a lot like the type of practical joke the "trickster" gods of ancient mythology were known for. Namely, in a world that practically worships science, we have a cloth that dates at least to the Middle Ages, and no one, if they are willing to objectively examine it, can explain how it got there. It is really funny. A riddle? Yes. That is the nature of the trickster. Is it in character with Christ? Absolutely. He often taught in parables, and did some really funny, synchronistic things. For example, when Peter was asked by the local tax collector if they paid tribute money to the temple, he said yes. When he told Jesus of the need to pay the tax, Jesus told him to go fishing, and the first fish he caught would have the coins for both of them in its mouth! If you were Peter and it really happened like that, you would laugh your head off!
Now, you mentioned that the trickster draws you in, then will not let the completed puzzle be seen. Great analogy, and maybe an infinity of wisdom in that. We are curious creatures by nature, and what better way to get our attention. That is what synchronicity is all about. It gets our attention because it is unexplainable, and therefore strikes us as rather funny. But where does it lead? That is up to you. I think you will find that, if you are open to and ready for it, it will lead you to a greater understanding; perhaps an adjustment to your perception of reality. Paul

Elizabeth Newton wrote:
>
> Fiasco
> As well as referring to the need, or lack thereof, re
> debating belief and proof, I was also referring to the issue
> of trying to prove something either way, when in reality
> proof may not be possible. Is this Paul's trickster at
> work? [as per the opening post in this thread]. It's as
> if the trickster draws one in and then, having got one caught
> up in an issue, won't let the completed jigsaw puzzle be
> seen; also, for every question answered, at least another
> question will appear.
>
> I'm not sure exactly what the topic of this thread is? I
> had interpreted the topic to be the trickster and
> synchronicity [using the shroud of Turin as an example], but
> I note that most of the discussion is on the shroud of Turin,
> itself.
>
> I don't want to rattle on off topic and will wait for Paul to
> comment before I proceed further.
>
> Regards, Elizabeth

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The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 1633 Paul Cochrane 27-Feb-04 06:28
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 410 Anne-Marie 27-Feb-04 07:13
Moderator Note 394 Jaimi 27-Feb-04 21:17
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 395 Lee McGiffen 27-Feb-04 12:32
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 448 Kboldt 27-Feb-04 14:00
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 398 fiascohoho 27-Feb-04 14:49
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 415 Lee McGiffen 27-Feb-04 15:10
D'Adamo... talk about synchronicity 462 ananda 27-Feb-04 16:33
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 374 fiascohoho 27-Feb-04 16:35
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 618 SunSword 27-Feb-04 18:36
Need source for your claim 430 ananda 27-Feb-04 18:57
Re: Need source for your claim 440 SunSword 27-Feb-04 22:19
No source or evidence? 455 ananda 27-Feb-04 22:44
Re: No source or evidence? 400 fiascohoho 28-Feb-04 00:10
Re: No source or evidence? 470 SunSword 28-Feb-04 00:40
Re: Need source for your claim 444 Zosimos 27-Feb-04 23:04
Re: Need source for your claim 430 ananda 28-Feb-04 00:44
Are you assuming... 346 ananda 29-Feb-04 20:15
Re: Are you assuming... 383 SunSword 01-Mar-04 14:39
Re: Are you assuming... 404 ArmchairObserver 01-Mar-04 15:50
Re: Are you assuming... 390 SunSword 01-Mar-04 17:23
Re: Need source for your claim 296 Paul Cochrane 28-Feb-04 04:26
Blood Types 434 jameske 28-Feb-04 15:51
Re: Blood Types 431 Lee McGiffen 29-Feb-04 12:30
Re: Blood Types 333 jameske 29-Feb-04 14:40
Re: Blood Types 440 ananda 29-Feb-04 15:36
Re: Blood Types 415 jameske 01-Mar-04 14:09
Re: Blood Types 423 SunSword 29-Feb-04 18:15
Re: Blood Types 427 jameske 01-Mar-04 14:03
Re: Blood Types 402 Paul Cochrane 01-Mar-04 03:16
Re: Blood Types 445 Lee McGiffen 01-Mar-04 11:32
Re: Blood Types 727 Paul Cochrane 03-Mar-04 01:09
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 396 ArmchairObserver 27-Feb-04 16:15
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 416 ananda 27-Feb-04 16:44
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 434 ArmchairObserver 27-Feb-04 17:40
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 413 Paul Cochrane 28-Feb-04 04:48
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 469 Paul Cochrane 28-Feb-04 04:43
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 424 Paul Cochrane 28-Feb-04 04:18
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 425 Mark Staab 27-Feb-04 16:48
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 436 Paul Cochrane 28-Feb-04 04:55
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 385 Mark Staab 28-Feb-04 05:43
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 423 Paul Cochrane 28-Feb-04 06:22
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 443 Zosimos 27-Feb-04 17:01
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 406 Mark Staab 27-Feb-04 17:17
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 443 Zosimos 27-Feb-04 18:25
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 476 Mark Staab 27-Feb-04 19:53
Mod remark 434 Kees 27-Feb-04 20:13
Re: Mod remark 463 Mark Staab 27-Feb-04 22:08
Re: Mod remark 383 Zosimos 27-Feb-04 22:36
Re: Mod remark 402 Mark Staab 27-Feb-04 23:27
Moderator note 420 Jaimi 28-Feb-04 04:29
Re: Moderator note 407 Mark Staab 28-Feb-04 05:46
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 438 Paul Cochrane 28-Feb-04 05:08
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 407 fisherman 27-Feb-04 17:41
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 416 Paul Cochrane 28-Feb-04 05:41
Belief, Proof and what does it matter 398 Elizabeth Newton 29-Feb-04 06:54
Re: Belief, Proof and what does it matter 386 fiascohoho 29-Feb-04 08:30
Re: Belief, Proof and what does it matter 412 Elizabeth Newton 29-Feb-04 11:52
Re: Belief, Proof and what does it matter 424 Elizabeth Newton 29-Feb-04 14:07
Re: Belief, Proof and what does it matter 425 fiascohoho 29-Feb-04 15:40
Re: Belief, Proof and what does it matter 428 Paul Cochrane 01-Mar-04 03:56
Re: Belief, Proof and what does it matter 391 Paul Cochrane 01-Mar-04 03:32
Re: Belief, Proof and what does it matter 421 Elizabeth Newton 01-Mar-04 15:00
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 430 Trygve Hogebol 29-Feb-04 18:37
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 354 Paul Cochrane 01-Mar-04 04:24


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