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Doug, evidently Mr. Fagan changed his ideas about this matter, as evidenced by the book he wrote about the El Ninos. I often do the same in my own writings because of my constant research. Where I'm concerned, it is extremely painful for me to change previous conditionings on these matters. I'll never forget when I first found out that Judaism originated in India. When I started writing my book about this matter, my finger kept landing on Pakistan and Afghanistan. This bothered me no end because I definitely DON'T belong to the Islamic Salvation Army. Then, I finally found out that these areas were once part of India as were also the Turkic nations, Iran, Iraq, Russia - and in short, the whole world. All these nations were united under a religion called Sabianism. As they left Sabianism, they also left "India."

As the Sabians a.ka. Phoenicians, etc. planted their religion all over the world, they left certain names that appear to never change over the ages. Naturally, in the land of the Incas, we'll find Sabianism under the name of Sapa or Saba. Their legends will talk of their origins from a place called Inti (Indus Valley) Among the O'odhams of Southern Arizona, we'll find the place where they assembled in ancient days to discuss political and religious issues, Sobai Puri, which is now the San Pedro river. They call their way of life "Himday." Even today, in India, the Hindu religious and political assemblies are called Sabha. They call their way of life Hindu, a term which we mistakenly apply to "religion."

Doug, not one thing I discuss and write about is original with me. All I did was to read - and agree with - the works of all Hindus and Westerners who have noticed that certain words in human languages seem never to change, along with the functions they represent. Once mankind understands this, he'll have broken the code of human language, for language and psyche are one and the same. The human mind, along with its vast collection of thoughts, ideas, and ramblings, is nothing more, nothing less, than one's own soul. It's a mirror of what each of us is. Right now, some Jewish writers have used computer analysis to notice this code in the Torah. Someday, they'll realize, through computer analysis, that this code is present in every utterance of mankind - even in children's stories. The reason why we can't see this is because of the tendency of the human mind to cling to mental conditionings, etc.

About human civilizations being unique, developing their own uniqueness independent of other nations. This is simply NOT true. Human civilization develops and spreads ALWAYS through international trade and religious propagation - in short, exchange of ideas. We first start with commerce; religion follows in the wake of commerce.

Gene

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AOM Paul Devereux: myth-busting Quetzalcoatl 2647 John Grigsby 02-Jan-04 13:10
Re: AOM Paul Devereux: myth-busting Quetzalcoatl 527 Zosimos 02-Jan-04 18:38
white faced culture bringers 601 John Grigsby 02-Jan-04 18:56
Re: white faced culture bringers 529 gene douglas 02-Jan-04 21:25
white faced god - the moon? 507 John Grigsby 03-Jan-04 15:43
Forget summer tans, stay ghostly pale! 566 Rick M G 03-Jan-04 10:19
Re: Forget summer tans, stay ghostly pale! 527 gene douglas 03-Jan-04 12:08
Good points Gene 608 Rick M G 06-Jan-04 07:30
Re: AOM Paul Devereux: myth-busting Quetzalcoatl 645 gene douglas 02-Jan-04 20:25
Re: AOM Paul Devereux: myth-busting Quetzalcoatl 601 rainman 02-Jan-04 22:02
Re: AOM Paul Devereux: myth-busting Quetzalcoatl 613 DougWeller 03-Jan-04 16:01
There's also -The Spanish Imposition- 520 ananda 03-Jan-04 17:37
Thanks ! 549 Katherine 04-Jan-04 04:20
Re: AOM Paul Devereux: myth-busting Quetzalcoatl 481 gene douglas 03-Jan-04 17:43
Re: AOM Paul Devereux: myth-busting Quetzalcoatl 566 gene douglas 03-Jan-04 19:02
Re: AOM Paul Devereux: myth-busting Quetzalcoatl 625 DougWeller 03-Jan-04 18:20
Re: AOM Paul Devereux: myth-busting Quetzalcoatl 604 DougWeller 03-Jan-04 18:21
Re: AOM Paul Devereux: myth-busting Quetzalcoatl 510 nonconformist 03-Jan-04 18:57
oops 502 nonconformist 03-Jan-04 18:59
oops again 564 nonconformist 03-Jan-04 19:01
Re: AOM Paul Devereux: myth-busting Quetzalcoatl 550 DougWeller 03-Jan-04 19:16
Re: AOM Paul Devereux: myth-busting Quetzalcoatl 565 DougWeller 03-Jan-04 19:17
Re: AOM Paul Devereux: myth-busting Quetzalcoatl 596 DougWeller 03-Jan-04 19:18
Re: AOM Paul Devereux: myth-busting Quetzalcoatl 559 barrystutner 04-Jan-04 02:00
Re: AOM Paul Devereux: myth-busting Quetzalcoatl 565 Graham Hancock 03-Jan-04 21:05
Re: AOM Paul Devereux: myth-busting Quetzalcoatl 552 DougWeller 03-Jan-04 21:25
Re: AOM Paul Devereux: myth-busting Quetzalcoatl 573 gene douglas 03-Jan-04 21:37
Who named the peoples of Central America "Maya"? 549 Rick M G 06-Jan-04 07:48
Re: Who named the peoples of Central America "Maya"? 553 DougWeller 10-Jan-04 07:40
Re: Who named the peoples of Central America "Maya"? 521 Paoputzu 10-Jan-04 15:23
Re: Who named the peoples of Central America "Maya"? 465 DougWeller 10-Jan-04 20:40
P'eng Lai 611 Rick M G 13-Jan-04 03:36
Re: AOM Paul Devereux: myth-busting Quetzalcoatl 547 Graham Hancock 04-Jan-04 11:45
Re: AOM Paul Devereux: myth-busting Quetzalcoatl 559 John Grigsby 04-Jan-04 13:02
Dr Mike Xu has linked the Ancient Chinese with the Olmec --> 596 Rick M G 06-Jan-04 07:45
Re: Dr Mike Xu has linked the Ancient Chinese with the Olmec --> 547 DougWeller 07-Jan-04 06:20
Who is Michael Coe? 581 Rick M G 07-Jan-04 09:49
Re: AOM Paul Devereux: myth-busting Quetzalcoatl 587 Paul Devereux 07-Jan-04 15:58
It's hard to argue with stone: pics --> 673 Rick M G 06-Jan-04 07:40
Re: It's hard to argue with stone: pics --> 528 Paul Devereux 07-Jan-04 16:26
I agree re: the mysterious Olmec 568 Rick M G 08-Jan-04 14:27
Re: AOM Paul Devereux: myth-busting Quetzalcoatl 547 Paul Devereux 07-Jan-04 15:30
Re: AOM Paul Devereux: myth-busting Quetzalcoatl 590 DougWeller 04-Jan-04 06:42
Re: AOM Paul Devereux: myth-busting Quetzalcoatl 535 gene douglas 04-Jan-04 10:41
Re: AOM Paul Devereux: myth-busting Quetzalcoatl 562 DougWeller 04-Jan-04 14:41
Re: AOM Paul Devereux: myth-busting Quetzalcoatl 537 Diomede 04-Jan-04 18:57
Re: AOM Paul Devereux: myth-busting Quetzalcoatl 557 jestahley3 05-Jan-04 06:51
Re: AOM Paul Devereux: myth-busting Quetzalcoatl 539 John Grigsby 05-Jan-04 09:10
Re: AOM Paul Devereux: myth-busting Quetzalcoatl 567 Diomede 07-Jan-04 01:00
Re: AOM Paul Devereux: myth-busting Quetzalcoatl 542 Paoputzu 09-Jan-04 17:09
Re: AOM Paul Devereux: myth-busting Quetzalcoatl 580 DougWeller 10-Jan-04 07:23
Re: AOM Paul Devereux: myth-busting Quetzalcoatl 552 Paoputzu 10-Jan-04 16:41
Re: AOM Paul Devereux: myth-busting Quetzalcoatl 565 DougWeller 10-Jan-04 20:45
Re: AOM Paul Devereux: myth-busting Quetzalcoatl 537 Paoputzu 10-Jan-04 21:09
Re: AOM Paul Devereux: myth-busting Quetzalcoatl 541 DougWeller 10-Jan-04 21:25
Re: AOM Paul Devereux: myth-busting Quetzalcoatl 1080 Paoputzu 13-Jan-04 16:14


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