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Eddie Larry Wrote:
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> Steve. I am counting on you to work out the
> numbers.
>
>
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You suggested
> The only hope surely is dramatic reduction in
> world population and reversion from our
> unsustainable extravagant "standard of living".
> GLOBALLY!????
>
>
> Well have you worked out the numbers on these
> theories?
>
> I guess it is satisfyingly egotistical to make
> outlandish claims. You are welcome to them. But
> when I buy a new lawnmower, I will go electric.
> If I ever get a new car, electric too. We also
> eat a lot less red meat then we used to, but I
> admit I had a hamburger yesterday!

Eddie

You seem to have taken personal offence. This likely is my fault due to poor choice of words. I did not mean to implicate you personally. I apologise.
Rather, I thought you were capable of thinking through the claim about Amazon becoming carbon neutral. Maybe they can as a company? It would require massive investment in sequestration efforts? No, I do not have those numbers. Good on them and you for trying.

We (both) will likely be gone before the real drama occurs.

USA with 5% of world population consumes 25% of the worlds fossil fuel resources. (coal oil gas)
Australians are the highest carbon emitters per capita in the world.
Developing massive countries like China, India and many SE Asian are catching up and requiring the same standard of CONSUMPTION. This is ultimately unsustainable.
The increase in world population, in the first half of this century, will be more than the number of persons that were on the planet than when you were born! The population growth is exponential . The capitalist economics model demands constant consumption growth per capita (otherwise it is called the dreaded economic "recession" or "depression")
Very few , control most of the worlds wealth and hold greedy, selfish, power.

I (perhaps too pessimistically) do not think humans will or can change in the near future (too much momentum). Until a major catastrophe forces readjustment to realistic consumption levels and mindful deliberate primary priority care of the natural planet.

Some people might need some poisonous 'jungle juice' to have some sort of transforming realisation?
Whatever! However it does require some form of "drop out" or adjustment from mindless participation in pursuit of happiness through ever increasing materialism.
Just harping on about the problem achieves nothing other than self satisfying false justification.
I think it is better that each individual changes our own materialistic consumption requirements and finds contentment from less, and give serious consideration to what sort of planet any children will live or die in.

Cheers

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Re: How Soon Is Now? What Kind of Future Awaits Us Now? 206 Alexander4450 19-Sep-19 17:05
Amazon aims to hit Paris climate goals 10 years early and reach carbon neutral on deliveries by 2040 216 Eddie Larry 19-Sep-19 18:41
Re: Amazon aims to hit Paris climate goals 10 years early and reach carbon neutral on deliveries by 2040 195 Corpuscles 22-Sep-19 23:39
Re: Amazon aims to hit Paris climate goals 10 years early and reach carbon neutral on deliveries by 2040 195 Eddie Larry 23-Sep-19 01:01
Re: Amazon aims to hit Paris climate goals 10 years early and reach carbon neutral on deliveries by 2040 193 Corpuscles 23-Sep-19 22:33
Re: Amazon aims to hit Paris climate goals 10 years early and reach carbon neutral on deliveries by 2040 215 Eddie Larry 24-Sep-19 14:02
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Re: How Soon Is Now? What Kind of Future Awaits Us Now? 206 Corpuscles 22-Sep-19 23:18
Re: How Soon Is Now? What Kind of Future Awaits Us Now? 210 Eddie Larry 23-Sep-19 01:07
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"extinction" article 198 drrayeye 01-Oct-19 13:18
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