> Poster Boy Wrote:
> > "I would need more time so I will come back on
> > it."
> > Please do! Maybe this, if I knew you well the
> > before you did your 23-day experience, how
> > you seem different, and how would you
> > you were different the day after this journey? :
> Hallo PB,
> “Chopping the wood and fetching the water”
> So no change detectible there and yet…
> Things changed.
> Our very close friend Ben was suffering from lung
> cancer, one lung removed already; almost the end
> of the line. Chemotherapy the only option left. I
> advised against it and he felt the same. Through a
> college we became acquainted with the head of the
> Santo Daime church in Holland. ..) it was clear to me that
> I had to participate too if I wanted to stay in
> touch and help my friend.
> And so I did.
.....it is quite impossible to
> answer your question in a couple of sentences.
That's not surprising, yet it is very surprising in a way. Given what I've read about aya, in no small part it's paradigm-altering effects, I would think that one would experience very significant differences during a 23 day period in which one ingested 21 times. Such behavior steers me in the direction of Himalayan caves, 40 days in the desert, etc.
My conjecture then, is that there was something very normal or natural that you recognized in the effects from the start... maybe like, this is normal and transcendent.
> But I can pick out one change:
> Before all this, still at home, I was reluctant to
> follow an intuition I had to become a therapist
> beside the profession I had already. I was
> struggling with that.
> After the sessions and the flight back home,
> setting foot again on Dutch soil, right at that
> moment it “hit me” that now the time had come
> to go for that “therapist education”.
> And so I did.
> Is becoming who you are a change?
I would say yes, definitely, if the gesture entails you taking a bold step that you hadn't until then. The authenticity of the step, spiritually speaking, will tend to become evident over time.
You know if becoming a therapist truly was a good move, for you, which is the only subject who matters.
I've heard of people going off the deep end the wrong way though. Some guy apparently felt called upon to construct a pyramid in the jungles of Peru after one such trip. This story is probably well known. As I recall, the whole thing collapsed soon afterwards. A most instructive-ignored example of such behavior is Terrance McKenna, when he did all of his work on Timewave Zero stoned, that was supposed to lead to something AMAZING come 2012. By then it was already known that his fractal history curve was too flawed to take seriously, but not before it became a staple in the New Age Mayan mythos.
I try to stay open to all possibilities, but the source matters quite a bit to me, when it comes to the matter of who might recommend substances like aya for "spiritual" purposes. You're the first person this month that I would say has positively impressed me in this regard. But then again, I've become quite familiar with you, Naveen, through previous postings and - perhaps more importantly, to me - through the lessons you've learned from your own spiritual experiences. It's not that you've "sold" me through your testimonial - I've already decided that I'll probably try aya at sometime. But in looking ahead to that time, I figured that I ought to leave myself in a position where it was possible to go deep into the experience, rather than as just a one-off. You certainly seemed to have done just that with your 21 trips in 23 days.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 17-Sep-19 01:23 by Poster Boy.