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DanielPinchbeck Wrote:
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> Everyone is unique. Some people drink ayahuasca
> once or twice or ten times, and finally feel they
> have gotten the message, so stop forever.
>
> There are religions that use ayahuasca as their
> sacrament, like the Santo Daime and Unao Do
> Vegetale, where it is drunk every 2 weeks in
> ceremony. These are discussed at length in the
> book.
>
> Of course there are many theories that the
> original religious sacrament was a psychedelic, so
> this may be just a return to old ways. For
> instance, Shi'ite Muslims are now permitted to
> take psychedelics under the guidance of a priest.
> This new edict may be because of Hoama, a
> substance used in the past, which may even be a
> Middle Eastern variant on ayahuasca.

Daniel,

I'm really looking for comparisons or consequences. Do you use ayahuasca regularly to maintain spiritual awareness, or have you already "gotten the message"?

If you use it regularly, why do you need it? If you've "gotten the message," what do you do now?

Ray

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Ayahuasca as a global phenomenon 2009 DanielPinchbeck 06-Sep-19 21:25
Baba Fats vs. Gimmesome Roy 292 drrayeye 07-Sep-19 01:05
Re: Baba Fats vs. Gimmesome Roy 272 DanielPinchbeck 07-Sep-19 02:01
Re: Baba Fats vs. Gimmesome Roy 270 drrayeye 07-Sep-19 04:29
Re: Baba Fats vs. Gimmesome Roy 258 PB Bytes 07-Sep-19 15:04
Re: Baba Fats vs. Gimmesome Roy 259 drrayeye 07-Sep-19 15:52
A theory 255 drrayeye 07-Sep-19 17:05
Re: Baba Fats vs. Gimmesome Roy 254 DanielPinchbeck 08-Sep-19 00:18
Re: Baba Fats vs. Gimmesome Roy 249 PB Bytes 08-Sep-19 16:03
Re: Baba Fats vs. Gimmesome Roy 277 DanielPinchbeck 08-Sep-19 16:44
Re: Baba Fats vs. Gimmesome Roy 248 drrayeye 09-Sep-19 11:25
Re: Baba Fats vs. Gimmesome Roy 246 DanielPinchbeck 09-Sep-19 11:34
Re: Baba Fats vs. Gimmesome Roy 254 drrayeye 09-Sep-19 16:07
Re: Baba Fats vs. Gimmesome Roy 240 DanielPinchbeck 16-Sep-19 12:23
Re: Baba Fats vs. Gimmesome Roy 263 DanielPinchbeck 07-Sep-19 17:21
Please refer to the Silverstein narrative 269 drrayeye 07-Sep-19 18:07
Re: Please refer to the Silverstein narrtive 263 Naveen 07-Sep-19 21:07
Re: Please refer to the Silverstein narrative 271 drrayeye 08-Sep-19 00:40
Re: Please refer to the Silverstein narrative 244 PB Bytes 09-Sep-19 17:54
The fast way 247 drrayeye 09-Sep-19 20:28
Re: The fast way 249 PB Bytes 09-Sep-19 21:36
Re: The fast way 269 drrayeye 10-Sep-19 05:35
Re: The fast way 227 PB Bytes 10-Sep-19 14:13
The "common sense way" 231 drrayeye 10-Sep-19 15:10
Re: The "common sense way" 233 PB Bytes 10-Sep-19 15:23
Re: The "common sense way" 225 greengirl5 10-Sep-19 23:02
Re: The "common sense way" 237 drrayeye 10-Sep-19 23:26
Re: The "common sense way" 229 greengirl5 11-Sep-19 04:07
Re: The "common sense way" 221 drrayeye 11-Sep-19 09:08
Re: The fast way 248 DanielPinchbeck 10-Sep-19 12:39
Re: The fast way 258 PB Bytes 10-Sep-19 17:11
spiritual--or recreational? 231 drrayeye 10-Sep-19 19:42
Re: spiritual--or recreational? 244 PB Bytes 10-Sep-19 20:17
a scientific skeptic--not a debunker 236 drrayeye 11-Sep-19 04:13
Re: a scientific skeptic--not a debunker 221 PB Bytes 11-Sep-19 04:22
Re: a scientific skeptic--not a debunker 222 drrayeye 11-Sep-19 06:02
Van Gogh No Nothing 233 Barbelo 11-Sep-19 11:05
My main point 230 drrayeye 11-Sep-19 13:38
protocol + theology 223 drrayeye 10-Sep-19 19:37
Re: protocol + theology 233 DanielPinchbeck 10-Sep-19 21:39
Great! 223 drrayeye 10-Sep-19 22:54
Re: The fast way 216 greengirl5 10-Sep-19 23:06
Re: Please refer to the Silverstein narrative 225 Naveen 10-Sep-19 20:47
Thanks 230 drrayeye 10-Sep-19 22:51
Re: Thanks 227 Naveen 11-Sep-19 21:21
Re: Please refer to the Silverstein narrtive 240 PB Bytes 09-Sep-19 17:55
Re: Please refer to the Silverstein narrtive 235 Naveen 10-Sep-19 20:49
Re: Please refer to the Silverstein narrtive 235 PB Bytes 10-Sep-19 21:38
Re: Please refer to the Silverstein narrtive 216 Naveen 11-Sep-19 21:14
Re: Please refer to the Silverstein narrtive 260 PB Bytes 11-Sep-19 22:18
Changes? 228 Naveen 15-Sep-19 21:43
Re: Changes? 234 PB Bytes 16-Sep-19 23:02
Re: Changes? 223 Naveen 18-Sep-19 15:47
Re: Changes? 225 PB Bytes 18-Sep-19 20:15
Re: Please refer to the Silverstein narrtive 288 jazzmumbles 07-Sep-19 23:32
Re: Please refer to the Silverstein narrative 280 drrayeye 08-Sep-19 00:53
Revised impressions 217 drrayeye 20-Sep-19 00:46
Not impressed 229 PB Bytes 20-Sep-19 17:22
WOW 222 drrayeye 21-Sep-19 03:01
Re: Revised impressions 234 jazzmumbles 21-Sep-19 04:26
Re: Revised impressions 248 drrayeye 21-Sep-19 05:31
Re: Revised impressions 225 jazzmumbles 30-Sep-19 00:19
Rick Strassman 363 drrayeye 30-Sep-19 06:38


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