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Please refer to the (hopefully humorous) narrative I posted, Naveen. Fats apparently reached a very high state of spiritual enlightenment without substances. If he didn't, I can tell you that I've been able to grow spiritually for decades, following the paths of Tolstoy, Schweitzer, and Gandhi. Roy tried everything he could find--only to remain unsatisfied.
It seems to me that Daniel (and maybe you as well) have found something at least as enlightening as the decades of meditation and life discipline Fats (maybe) and me for sure (not to mention my famous models).
I'm skeptical, Change my mind.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08-Sep-19 00:56 by drrayeye.