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Please refer to the (hopefully humorous) narrative I posted, Naveen. Fats apparently reached a very high state of spiritual enlightenment without substances. If he didn't, I can tell you that I've been able to grow spiritually for decades, following the paths of Tolstoy, Schweitzer, and Gandhi. Roy tried everything he could find--only to remain unsatisfied.

It seems to me that Daniel (and maybe you as well) have found something at least as enlightening as the decades of meditation and life discipline Fats (maybe) and me for sure (not to mention my famous models).

I'm skeptical, Change my mind.

Ray



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Ayahuasca as a global phenomenon 1973 DanielPinchbeck 06-Sep-19 21:25
Baba Fats vs. Gimmesome Roy 275 drrayeye 07-Sep-19 01:05
Re: Baba Fats vs. Gimmesome Roy 256 DanielPinchbeck 07-Sep-19 02:01
Re: Baba Fats vs. Gimmesome Roy 252 drrayeye 07-Sep-19 04:29
Re: Baba Fats vs. Gimmesome Roy 241 PB Bytes 07-Sep-19 15:04
Re: Baba Fats vs. Gimmesome Roy 244 drrayeye 07-Sep-19 15:52
A theory 239 drrayeye 07-Sep-19 17:05
Re: Baba Fats vs. Gimmesome Roy 239 DanielPinchbeck 08-Sep-19 00:18
Re: Baba Fats vs. Gimmesome Roy 233 PB Bytes 08-Sep-19 16:03
Re: Baba Fats vs. Gimmesome Roy 261 DanielPinchbeck 08-Sep-19 16:44
Re: Baba Fats vs. Gimmesome Roy 233 drrayeye 09-Sep-19 11:25
Re: Baba Fats vs. Gimmesome Roy 230 DanielPinchbeck 09-Sep-19 11:34
Re: Baba Fats vs. Gimmesome Roy 238 drrayeye 09-Sep-19 16:07
Re: Baba Fats vs. Gimmesome Roy 225 DanielPinchbeck 16-Sep-19 12:23
Re: Baba Fats vs. Gimmesome Roy 246 DanielPinchbeck 07-Sep-19 17:21
Please refer to the Silverstein narrative 253 drrayeye 07-Sep-19 18:07
Re: Please refer to the Silverstein narrtive 247 Naveen 07-Sep-19 21:07
Re: Please refer to the Silverstein narrative 252 drrayeye 08-Sep-19 00:40
Re: Please refer to the Silverstein narrative 229 PB Bytes 09-Sep-19 17:54
The fast way 232 drrayeye 09-Sep-19 20:28
Re: The fast way 232 PB Bytes 09-Sep-19 21:36
Re: The fast way 251 drrayeye 10-Sep-19 05:35
Re: The fast way 211 PB Bytes 10-Sep-19 14:13
The "common sense way" 216 drrayeye 10-Sep-19 15:10
Re: The "common sense way" 217 PB Bytes 10-Sep-19 15:23
Re: The "common sense way" 209 greengirl5 10-Sep-19 23:02
Re: The "common sense way" 220 drrayeye 10-Sep-19 23:26
Re: The "common sense way" 213 greengirl5 11-Sep-19 04:07
Re: The "common sense way" 206 drrayeye 11-Sep-19 09:08
Re: The fast way 232 DanielPinchbeck 10-Sep-19 12:39
Re: The fast way 241 PB Bytes 10-Sep-19 17:11
spiritual--or recreational? 216 drrayeye 10-Sep-19 19:42
Re: spiritual--or recreational? 229 PB Bytes 10-Sep-19 20:17
a scientific skeptic--not a debunker 220 drrayeye 11-Sep-19 04:13
Re: a scientific skeptic--not a debunker 206 PB Bytes 11-Sep-19 04:22
Re: a scientific skeptic--not a debunker 206 drrayeye 11-Sep-19 06:02
Van Gogh No Nothing 217 Barbelo 11-Sep-19 11:05
My main point 214 drrayeye 11-Sep-19 13:38
protocol + theology 206 drrayeye 10-Sep-19 19:37
Re: protocol + theology 218 DanielPinchbeck 10-Sep-19 21:39
Great! 207 drrayeye 10-Sep-19 22:54
Re: The fast way 199 greengirl5 10-Sep-19 23:06
Re: Please refer to the Silverstein narrative 210 Naveen 10-Sep-19 20:47
Thanks 213 drrayeye 10-Sep-19 22:51
Re: Thanks 210 Naveen 11-Sep-19 21:21
Re: Please refer to the Silverstein narrtive 225 PB Bytes 09-Sep-19 17:55
Re: Please refer to the Silverstein narrtive 216 Naveen 10-Sep-19 20:49
Re: Please refer to the Silverstein narrtive 218 PB Bytes 10-Sep-19 21:38
Re: Please refer to the Silverstein narrtive 200 Naveen 11-Sep-19 21:14
Re: Please refer to the Silverstein narrtive 244 PB Bytes 11-Sep-19 22:18
Changes? 212 Naveen 15-Sep-19 21:43
Re: Changes? 219 PB Bytes 16-Sep-19 23:02
Re: Changes? 205 Naveen 18-Sep-19 15:47
Re: Changes? 211 PB Bytes 18-Sep-19 20:15
Re: Please refer to the Silverstein narrtive 273 jazzmumbles 07-Sep-19 23:32
Re: Please refer to the Silverstein narrative 264 drrayeye 08-Sep-19 00:53
Revised impressions 201 drrayeye 20-Sep-19 00:46
Not impressed 211 PB Bytes 20-Sep-19 17:22
WOW 204 drrayeye 21-Sep-19 03:01
Re: Revised impressions 220 jazzmumbles 21-Sep-19 04:26
Re: Revised impressions 233 drrayeye 21-Sep-19 05:31
Re: Revised impressions 209 jazzmumbles 30-Sep-19 00:19
Rick Strassman 341 drrayeye 30-Sep-19 06:38


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