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“I have some better hope of rationality from you! ( our happy clapper thinks songs do it)

You as avid 21st C amateur astronomer, didn't think..... FIRST.... STARS? ”

Steve, since I live near Chicago, I understand why modern folks can’t visualize the Constellations whether via stick figures, or as animals, or as “FIRST...STARS.”

But, of course, Steve as you can imagine it is all relative to one’s perspectives. We have here a battle royal of folks perspectives. Not much a rationalist like me can do about it. Sorry.

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Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 57787 Graham Hancock 05-Aug-19 12:38
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 214 Martinsw1 05-Aug-19 12:54
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 175 cloister 06-Aug-19 04:28
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 185 Martinsw1 06-Aug-19 09:00
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 140 cloister 07-Aug-19 10:54
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 148 Martinsw1 07-Aug-19 13:58
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 133 cloister 08-Aug-19 07:53
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 132 Martinsw1 08-Aug-19 14:55
Re: Sweatman's diluted pseudo archaeo astronomy 224 Edmond 06-Aug-19 19:51
Re: Sweatman's diluted pseudo archaeo astronomy 162 Martinsw1 07-Aug-19 05:51
Re: Sweatman's diluted pseudo archaeo astronomy 201 Edmond 07-Aug-19 08:48
Re: Sweatman's diluted pseudo archaeo astronomy 151 Martinsw1 07-Aug-19 14:05
Re: Sweatman's diluted pseudo archaeo astronomy 139 Martinsw1 07-Aug-19 20:28
Re: Sweatman's diluted pseudo archaeo astronomy 133 Merrell 08-Aug-19 11:48
Re: Sweatman's diluted pseudo archaeo astronomy 144 Martinsw1 07-Aug-19 21:28
Re: Sweatman's diluted pseudo archaeo astronomy 164 Edmond 08-Aug-19 07:42
Re: Sweatman's diluted pseudo archaeo astronomy 148 Martinsw1 08-Aug-19 14:35
Re: Sweatman's diluted pseudo archaeo astronomy 136 Barbelo 09-Aug-19 01:15
Re: Sweatman's diluted pseudo archaeo astronomy 140 Edmond 09-Aug-19 16:51
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 134 Eddie Larry 07-Aug-19 22:52
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 120 Poster Boy 08-Aug-19 20:50
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 196 Susan Doris 05-Aug-19 17:32
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 157 Martinsw1 05-Aug-19 20:23
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 146 Susan Doris 06-Aug-19 05:02
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 155 Edmond 07-Aug-19 13:23
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 156 Martinsw1 07-Aug-19 14:10
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 141 Susan Doris 07-Aug-19 15:07
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 137 drrayeye 08-Aug-19 04:15
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 131 Martinsw1 08-Aug-19 07:23
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 159 Merrell 08-Aug-19 08:29
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 119 drrayeye 08-Aug-19 17:27
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 169 Rebecca Bradley 08-Aug-19 15:21
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 147 Poster Boy 08-Aug-19 18:34
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 127 Rebecca Bradley 10-Aug-19 03:44
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 112 Susan Doris 10-Aug-19 05:34
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 117 Rebecca Bradley 10-Aug-19 05:57
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 111 Poster Boy 10-Aug-19 14:45
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 105 Corpuscles 10-Aug-19 22:37
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 105 Poster Boy 10-Aug-19 23:05
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 146 Poster Boy 11-Aug-19 15:56
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 116 Corpuscles 12-Aug-19 05:58
Props to Corps 102 Poster Boy 12-Aug-19 17:03
Great job! 107 drrayeye 12-Aug-19 18:01
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured NONSENSE author for August 2019 150 Corpuscles 09-Aug-19 01:50
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured NONSENSE author for August 2019 127 Susan Doris 09-Aug-19 06:30
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured NONSENSE author for August 2019 121 Rebecca Bradley 10-Aug-19 03:46
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 137 Martinsw1 09-Aug-19 07:14
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 121 Susan Doris 09-Aug-19 10:01
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 165 Martinsw1 09-Aug-19 10:40
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 110 Susan Doris 09-Aug-19 12:38
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 133 Martinsw1 09-Aug-19 13:07
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 165 unchartedxben 09-Aug-19 16:54
Plenty to talk about for thousands of years after the event! 114 greengirl5 10-Aug-19 01:29
Fall of a thousand suns 111 greengirl5 10-Aug-19 02:02
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 155 Rebecca Bradley 10-Aug-19 06:05
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 110 Eddie Larry 10-Aug-19 13:20
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 132 Rebecca Bradley 10-Aug-19 15:16
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 106 Eddie Larry 11-Aug-19 13:53
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 111 Martinsw1 11-Aug-19 19:42
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 109 Poster Boy 11-Aug-19 23:27
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 112 Martinsw1 12-Aug-19 08:49
A Sealed Deal? Of Course You Jest 110 Barbelo 12-Aug-19 21:16
Re: A Sealed Deal? Of Course You Jest 107 Martinsw1 13-Aug-19 10:28
Re: A Sealed Deal? Of Course You Jest 106 Martinsw1 13-Aug-19 18:18
Re: A Sealed Deal? Of Course You Jest 106 Barbelo 13-Aug-19 23:46
Re: A Sealed Deal? Of Course You Jest 104 Poster Boy 14-Aug-19 00:12
Re: A Sealed Deal? Of Course You Jest 104 Barbelo 14-Aug-19 04:03
Re: A Sealed Deal? Of Course You Jest 101 Poster Boy 14-Aug-19 14:26
Re: A Sealed Deal? Of Course You Jest 102 Barbelo 14-Aug-19 21:09
Re: A Sealed Deal? Of Course You Jest 97 Poster Boy 14-Aug-19 21:55
Re: A Sealed Deal? Of Course You Jest 99 Poster Boy 15-Aug-19 03:19
Re: A Sealed Deal? Of Course You Jest 100 Barbelo 15-Aug-19 04:28
Re: A Sealed Deal? Of Course You Jest 102 Poster Boy 15-Aug-19 14:24
Re: A Sealed Deal? Of Course You Jest 106 Eddie Larry 15-Aug-19 15:56
Re: A Sealed Deal? Of Course You Jest 95 Poster Boy 15-Aug-19 16:49
Re: A Sealed Deal? Of Course You Jest 94 Eddie Larry 15-Aug-19 18:35
The rest of us 113 drrayeye 15-Aug-19 19:28
Little stone in the middle of nowhere 93 greengirl5 15-Aug-19 23:05
Re: Little stone in the middle of nowhere 98 Poster Boy 15-Aug-19 23:19
Re: Little stone in the middle of nowhere 93 greengirl5 15-Aug-19 23:54
Re: Little stone in the middle of nowhere 97 greengirl5 16-Aug-19 00:14
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 128 Martinsw1 12-Aug-19 09:06
Re: Your scorpion or your Scorpius is back to front 166 Edmond 12-Aug-19 10:13
Re: Your scorpion or your Scorpius is back to front 107 Martinsw1 13-Aug-19 10:30
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 122 Poster Boy 12-Aug-19 14:21
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 106 Martinsw1 13-Aug-19 10:33
Constellation, or death-cult? 125 Merrell 13-Aug-19 06:55
Re: Constellation, or death-cult? 112 Martinsw1 13-Aug-19 10:44
Re: Constellation, or death-cult? 118 Poster Boy 13-Aug-19 18:46
Re: Constellation, or death-cult? 106 Martinsw1 14-Aug-19 08:40
Re: Constellation, or death-cult? 110 Poster Boy 14-Aug-19 14:11
Lost or last civilisation? 105 greengirl5 14-Aug-19 22:28
Re: Lost or last civilisation? 97 greengirl5 15-Aug-19 00:06
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 121 Rebecca Bradley 12-Aug-19 06:26
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 122 Martinsw1 12-Aug-19 08:56
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 116 Corpuscles 12-Aug-19 23:01
Planet destruction 103 greengirl5 13-Aug-19 00:04
Re: Planet destruction 106 Corpuscles 13-Aug-19 01:50
Re: Planet destruction 101 Eddie Larry 13-Aug-19 04:09
Re: Planet destruction 95 greengirl5 13-Aug-19 06:11
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 104 Susan Doris 13-Aug-19 05:01
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 117 Martinsw1 13-Aug-19 10:49
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 120 Rebecca Bradley 13-Aug-19 02:47
Composite animals 100 greengirl5 13-Aug-19 06:16
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 130 Martinsw1 13-Aug-19 11:02
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 130 Rebecca Bradley 14-Aug-19 06:56
Ibex or Feline? 109 greengirl5 14-Aug-19 08:40
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 187 Martinsw1 14-Aug-19 08:44
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 107 Poster Boy 14-Aug-19 14:09
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 133 Rebecca Bradley 15-Aug-19 04:36
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 120 Corpuscles 15-Aug-19 06:03
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 114 cloister 15-Aug-19 07:50
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 131 Martinsw1 16-Aug-19 08:25
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 110 Poster Boy 16-Aug-19 16:35
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 124 Rebecca Bradley 17-Aug-19 06:48
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 119 Martinsw1 17-Aug-19 07:59
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 121 Susan Doris 17-Aug-19 10:21
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 110 Rebecca Bradley 18-Aug-19 07:42
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 115 Martinsw1 18-Aug-19 08:17
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 133 Rebecca Bradley 18-Aug-19 09:08
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 114 Corpuscles 18-Aug-19 22:36
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 122 Martinsw1 19-Aug-19 08:24
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 108 Corpuscles 20-Aug-19 12:54
coming from a casual reader 108 drrayeye 20-Aug-19 14:20
Re: coming from a casual reader 101 Corpuscles 20-Aug-19 15:57
Re: coming from a casual reader 95 drrayeye 20-Aug-19 17:41
Re: coming from a casual reader 95 Corpuscles 20-Aug-19 20:18
280 million years 97 greengirl5 20-Aug-19 21:56
Re: 280 million years 94 Corpuscles 20-Aug-19 22:23
Re: 280 million years 97 greengirl5 21-Aug-19 06:41
Support for Mrs. O'Leary's "milk factory" (in song) 88 drrayeye 21-Aug-19 00:55
Re: coming from a casual gambler 89 Barbelo 20-Aug-19 21:36
Re: coming from a casual gambler 89 Corpuscles 20-Aug-19 21:46
Re: coming from a casual reader 90 Eddie Larry 21-Aug-19 00:03
Re: coming from a casual reader 86 Corpuscles 21-Aug-19 01:21
American joke 88 drrayeye 21-Aug-19 02:11
Re: coming from a casual reader 90 Eddie Larry 21-Aug-19 02:23
Re: coming from a casual reader 99 Poster Boy 20-Aug-19 16:32
Re: coming from a casual reader 84 drrayeye 20-Aug-19 17:46
Re: coming from a casual reader 91 Poster Boy 20-Aug-19 18:06
Re: coming from a casual reader 98 Corpuscles 20-Aug-19 20:33
Re: coming from a casual reader 87 Poster Boy 20-Aug-19 22:29
Re: coming from a casual reader 87 Corpuscles 20-Aug-19 22:52
Zodiacal Art & Precession 96 Barbelo 20-Aug-19 22:25
Re: Zodiacal Art & Precession 92 Poster Boy 21-Aug-19 04:36
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 113 Poster Boy 17-Aug-19 15:14
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 113 Rebecca Bradley 18-Aug-19 08:48
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 106 Poster Boy 18-Aug-19 16:38
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 98 Rebecca Bradley 20-Aug-19 07:53
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 92 Susan Doris 20-Aug-19 10:23
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 94 Poster Boy 20-Aug-19 19:36
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 103 Martinsw1 20-Aug-19 08:17
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 103 Rebecca Bradley 20-Aug-19 22:55
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 101 Corpuscles 20-Aug-19 23:16
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 114 Rebecca Bradley 22-Aug-19 06:48
The Test? 124 Poster Boy 21-Aug-19 15:59
Re: The Test? 97 Corpuscles 21-Aug-19 21:25
Re: The Test? 85 Poster Boy 21-Aug-19 21:58
Re: The Test? 90 Barbelo 21-Aug-19 22:05
Re: The Test? 94 Corpuscles 21-Aug-19 22:52
Re: The Test? 107 Rebecca Bradley 22-Aug-19 05:31
Re: The Test? 101 Barbelo 22-Aug-19 05:48
Re: The Test? 99 Poster Boy 22-Aug-19 14:21
Revising... The Test? 117 Poster Boy 22-Aug-19 16:48
animal anatomy lesson #1 118 hendrik dirker 22-Aug-19 19:02
Re: animal anatomy lesson #1 124 Poster Boy 22-Aug-19 19:06
Re: animal anatomy 109 hendrik dirker 24-Aug-19 06:09
Re: animal anatomy 116 Poster Boy 24-Aug-19 16:25
Re: Revising... The Test? 103 Rebecca Bradley 24-Aug-19 07:22
Re: Revising... The Test? 93 Poster Boy 24-Aug-19 15:30
Re: Revising... The Test? 87 Rebecca Bradley 31-Aug-19 06:03
Re: Revising... The Test? 80 Poster Boy 31-Aug-19 17:08
Re: Revising... The Test? 79 Eddie Larry 31-Aug-19 17:32
Re: Revising... The Test? 79 Poster Boy 31-Aug-19 19:52
Re: Revising... The Test? 84 Rebecca Bradley 01-Sep-19 04:03
Re: Revising... The Test? 73 Poster Boy 01-Sep-19 15:30
Re: Revising... The Test? 77 Eddie Larry 01-Sep-19 15:45
Re: Revising... The Test? 83 Rebecca Bradley 01-Sep-19 04:15
Research design perspective 114 drrayeye 14-Aug-19 22:21
Re: Research design perspective 98 Eddie Larry 14-Aug-19 22:43
Re: Research design perspective 98 Susan Doris 15-Aug-19 05:01
Re: Research design perspective 114 Martinsw1 15-Aug-19 07:08
Re: Research design perspective 96 Poster Boy 17-Aug-19 15:43
Re: Research design perspective 109 drrayeye 17-Aug-19 17:25
Re: Research design perspective 104 Martinsw1 18-Aug-19 08:00
Re: Research design perspective 99 drrayeye 18-Aug-19 21:42
Re: Research design perspective 103 Martinsw1 19-Aug-19 08:32
Re: Research design perspective 97 Corpuscles 19-Aug-19 22:32
Not Science, No Proof 122 Barbelo 18-Aug-19 22:44
Re: Not Science, No Proof 117 Martinsw1 19-Aug-19 08:35
Pomposity Levels Not Exceeded On This Board 104 Barbelo 19-Aug-19 11:03
Re: Pomposity Levels Not Exceeded On This Board 119 Martinsw1 20-Aug-19 08:58
Re: Pomposity Levels Not Exceeded On This Board 104 Barbelo 20-Aug-19 12:00
Earth orbital antics 126 hendrik dirker 20-Aug-19 18:39
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 155 Martinsw1 11-Aug-19 19:56
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 119 Corpuscles 12-Aug-19 06:12
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 134 Rebecca Bradley 12-Aug-19 06:42
individual subjectivity and objective consensus 116 Poster Boy 12-Aug-19 16:59
Re: individual subjectivity and objective consensus 119 Martinsw1 13-Aug-19 10:40
Other thoughts. 112 Poster Boy 13-Aug-19 16:32
Re: Other thoughts. 105 drrayeye 13-Aug-19 17:48
Re: Other thoughts. 108 Poster Boy 13-Aug-19 18:42
Re: Other thoughts. 103 drrayeye 13-Aug-19 19:06
Reading the book 103 greengirl5 13-Aug-19 22:40
Re: Reading the book 107 Poster Boy 14-Aug-19 03:11
Re: Other thoughts. 105 Corpuscles 14-Aug-19 01:20
Re: Other thoughts. 108 Poster Boy 14-Aug-19 02:51
Re: Other thoughts. 101 Eddie Larry 14-Aug-19 03:35
Re: Other thoughts. 99 Poster Boy 14-Aug-19 03:53
Re: Other thoughts. 99 Eddie Larry 14-Aug-19 17:54
Re: Other thoughts. 95 Poster Boy 14-Aug-19 19:02
Re: Other thoughts. 100 Eddie Larry 14-Aug-19 19:32
Re: Other thoughts. 97 Poster Boy 14-Aug-19 20:24
Re: Other thoughts. 113 Corpuscles 14-Aug-19 04:49
Re: Other thoughts. 113 Corpuscles 14-Aug-19 05:13
Re: Other thoughts. 108 Poster Boy 14-Aug-19 14:35
Dr. Sweatman, in case you didn't know... 177 Poster Boy 09-Aug-19 15:56
The Zodiac 131 hendrik dirker 10-Aug-19 12:00
Re: The Zodiac 120 Poster Boy 10-Aug-19 14:58
Scorpius, Orions belt, pareidolia 105 greengirl5 10-Aug-19 23:15
Re: Scorpius, Orions belt, pareidolia 102 Poster Boy 10-Aug-19 23:52
Re: Scorpius, Orions belt, pareidolia 110 greengirl5 11-Aug-19 00:07
Re: Scorpius, Orions belt, pareidolia 108 Poster Boy 11-Aug-19 00:20
Re: Scorpius, Orions belt, pareidolia 118 greengirl5 11-Aug-19 00:26
Just been outside to see Scorpius 116 greengirl5 11-Aug-19 11:40
Re: Just been outside to see Scorpius 125 greengirl5 11-Aug-19 12:51
Re: Just been outside to see Scorpius 148 Susan Doris 11-Aug-19 12:53
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 140 Poster Boy 12-Aug-19 14:18
Regarding the wider picture down the line 144 Poster Boy 14-Aug-19 16:47
Re: Regarding the wider picture down the line 154 Martinsw1 15-Aug-19 07:14
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 125 Corpuscles 21-Aug-19 23:13
A new question 93 Poster Boy 01-Sep-19 17:25
Re: A new question 431 Rebecca Bradley 02-Sep-19 04:20


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