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“I have some better hope of rationality from you! ( our happy clapper thinks songs do it)

You as avid 21st C amateur astronomer, didn't think..... FIRST.... STARS? ”

Steve, since I live near Chicago, I understand why modern folks can’t visualize the Constellations whether via stick figures, or as animals, or as “FIRST...STARS.”

But, of course, Steve as you can imagine it is all relative to one’s perspectives. We have here a battle royal of folks perspectives. Not much a rationalist like me can do about it. Sorry.

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Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 59521 Graham Hancock 05-Aug-19 12:38
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 535 Martinsw1 05-Aug-19 12:54
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 519 cloister 06-Aug-19 04:28
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 536 Martinsw1 06-Aug-19 09:00
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 459 cloister 07-Aug-19 10:54
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 482 Martinsw1 07-Aug-19 13:58
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 456 cloister 08-Aug-19 07:53
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 455 Martinsw1 08-Aug-19 14:55
Re: Sweatman's diluted pseudo archaeo astronomy 552 Edmond 06-Aug-19 19:51
Re: Sweatman's diluted pseudo archaeo astronomy 485 Martinsw1 07-Aug-19 05:51
Re: Sweatman's diluted pseudo archaeo astronomy 563 Edmond 07-Aug-19 08:48
Re: Sweatman's diluted pseudo archaeo astronomy 466 Martinsw1 07-Aug-19 14:05
Re: Sweatman's diluted pseudo archaeo astronomy 469 Martinsw1 07-Aug-19 20:28
Re: Sweatman's diluted pseudo archaeo astronomy 455 Merrell 08-Aug-19 11:48
Re: Sweatman's diluted pseudo archaeo astronomy 466 Martinsw1 07-Aug-19 21:28
Re: Sweatman's diluted pseudo archaeo astronomy 493 Edmond 08-Aug-19 07:42
Re: Sweatman's diluted pseudo archaeo astronomy 462 Martinsw1 08-Aug-19 14:35
Re: Sweatman's diluted pseudo archaeo astronomy 458 Barbelo 09-Aug-19 01:15
Re: Sweatman's diluted pseudo archaeo astronomy 471 Edmond 09-Aug-19 16:51
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 466 Eddie Larry 07-Aug-19 22:52
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 437 PB Bytes 08-Aug-19 20:50
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 529 Susan Doris 05-Aug-19 17:32
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 463 Martinsw1 05-Aug-19 20:23
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 454 Susan Doris 06-Aug-19 05:02
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 475 Edmond 07-Aug-19 13:23
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 476 Martinsw1 07-Aug-19 14:10
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 444 Susan Doris 07-Aug-19 15:07
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 457 drrayeye 08-Aug-19 04:15
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 436 Martinsw1 08-Aug-19 07:23
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 491 Merrell 08-Aug-19 08:29
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 429 drrayeye 08-Aug-19 17:27
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 490 Rebecca Bradley 08-Aug-19 15:21
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 474 PB Bytes 08-Aug-19 18:34
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 443 Rebecca Bradley 10-Aug-19 03:44
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 421 Susan Doris 10-Aug-19 05:34
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 433 Rebecca Bradley 10-Aug-19 05:57
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 423 PB Bytes 10-Aug-19 14:45
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 417 Corpuscles 10-Aug-19 22:37
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 421 PB Bytes 10-Aug-19 23:05
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 501 PB Bytes 11-Aug-19 15:56
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 426 Corpuscles 12-Aug-19 05:58
Props to Corps 401 PB Bytes 12-Aug-19 17:03
Great job! 426 drrayeye 12-Aug-19 18:01
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured NONSENSE author for August 2019 460 Corpuscles 09-Aug-19 01:50
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured NONSENSE author for August 2019 420 Susan Doris 09-Aug-19 06:30
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured NONSENSE author for August 2019 436 Rebecca Bradley 10-Aug-19 03:46
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 461 Martinsw1 09-Aug-19 07:14
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 448 Susan Doris 09-Aug-19 10:01
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 519 Martinsw1 09-Aug-19 10:40
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 433 Susan Doris 09-Aug-19 12:38
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 468 Martinsw1 09-Aug-19 13:07
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 532 unchartedxben 09-Aug-19 16:54
Plenty to talk about for thousands of years after the event! 417 greengirl5 10-Aug-19 01:29
Fall of a thousand suns 427 greengirl5 10-Aug-19 02:02
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 547 Rebecca Bradley 10-Aug-19 06:05
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 432 Eddie Larry 10-Aug-19 13:20
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 440 Rebecca Bradley 10-Aug-19 15:16
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 430 Eddie Larry 11-Aug-19 13:53
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 435 Martinsw1 11-Aug-19 19:42
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 431 PB Bytes 11-Aug-19 23:27
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 428 Martinsw1 12-Aug-19 08:49
A Sealed Deal? Of Course You Jest 425 Barbelo 12-Aug-19 21:16
Re: A Sealed Deal? Of Course You Jest 420 Martinsw1 13-Aug-19 10:28
Re: A Sealed Deal? Of Course You Jest 422 Martinsw1 13-Aug-19 18:18
Re: A Sealed Deal? Of Course You Jest 419 Barbelo 13-Aug-19 23:46
Re: A Sealed Deal? Of Course You Jest 425 PB Bytes 14-Aug-19 00:12
Re: A Sealed Deal? Of Course You Jest 421 Barbelo 14-Aug-19 04:03
Re: A Sealed Deal? Of Course You Jest 420 PB Bytes 14-Aug-19 14:26
Re: A Sealed Deal? Of Course You Jest 417 Barbelo 14-Aug-19 21:09
Re: A Sealed Deal? Of Course You Jest 407 PB Bytes 14-Aug-19 21:55
Re: A Sealed Deal? Of Course You Jest 410 PB Bytes 15-Aug-19 03:19
Re: A Sealed Deal? Of Course You Jest 428 Barbelo 15-Aug-19 04:28
Re: A Sealed Deal? Of Course You Jest 410 PB Bytes 15-Aug-19 14:24
Re: A Sealed Deal? Of Course You Jest 427 Eddie Larry 15-Aug-19 15:56
Re: A Sealed Deal? Of Course You Jest 448 PB Bytes 15-Aug-19 16:49
Re: A Sealed Deal? Of Course You Jest 422 Eddie Larry 15-Aug-19 18:35
The rest of us 445 drrayeye 15-Aug-19 19:28
Little stone in the middle of nowhere 419 greengirl5 15-Aug-19 23:05
Re: Little stone in the middle of nowhere 409 PB Bytes 15-Aug-19 23:19
Re: Little stone in the middle of nowhere 400 greengirl5 15-Aug-19 23:54
Re: Little stone in the middle of nowhere 417 greengirl5 16-Aug-19 00:14
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 499 Martinsw1 12-Aug-19 09:06
Re: Your scorpion or your Scorpius is back to front 499 Edmond 12-Aug-19 10:13
Re: Your scorpion or your Scorpius is back to front 433 Martinsw1 13-Aug-19 10:30
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 459 PB Bytes 12-Aug-19 14:21
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 421 Martinsw1 13-Aug-19 10:33
Constellation, or death-cult? 450 Merrell 13-Aug-19 06:55
Re: Constellation, or death-cult? 443 Martinsw1 13-Aug-19 10:44
Re: Constellation, or death-cult? 444 PB Bytes 13-Aug-19 18:46
Re: Constellation, or death-cult? 424 Martinsw1 14-Aug-19 08:40
Re: Constellation, or death-cult? 434 PB Bytes 14-Aug-19 14:11
Lost or last civilisation? 427 greengirl5 14-Aug-19 22:28
Re: Lost or last civilisation? 414 greengirl5 15-Aug-19 00:06
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 440 Rebecca Bradley 12-Aug-19 06:26
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 452 Martinsw1 12-Aug-19 08:56
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 433 Corpuscles 12-Aug-19 23:01
Planet destruction 410 greengirl5 13-Aug-19 00:04
Re: Planet destruction 419 Corpuscles 13-Aug-19 01:50
Re: Planet destruction 412 Eddie Larry 13-Aug-19 04:09
Re: Planet destruction 413 greengirl5 13-Aug-19 06:11
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 418 Susan Doris 13-Aug-19 05:01
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 456 Martinsw1 13-Aug-19 10:49
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 453 Rebecca Bradley 13-Aug-19 02:47
Composite animals 411 greengirl5 13-Aug-19 06:16
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 454 Martinsw1 13-Aug-19 11:02
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 457 Rebecca Bradley 14-Aug-19 06:56
Ibex or Feline? 438 greengirl5 14-Aug-19 08:40
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 506 Martinsw1 14-Aug-19 08:44
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 422 PB Bytes 14-Aug-19 14:09
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 447 Rebecca Bradley 15-Aug-19 04:36
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 439 Corpuscles 15-Aug-19 06:03
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 455 cloister 15-Aug-19 07:50
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 452 Martinsw1 16-Aug-19 08:25
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 455 PB Bytes 16-Aug-19 16:35
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 450 Rebecca Bradley 17-Aug-19 06:48
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 442 Martinsw1 17-Aug-19 07:59
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 447 Susan Doris 17-Aug-19 10:21
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 442 Rebecca Bradley 18-Aug-19 07:42
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 465 Martinsw1 18-Aug-19 08:17
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 468 Rebecca Bradley 18-Aug-19 09:08
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 444 Corpuscles 18-Aug-19 22:36
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 463 Martinsw1 19-Aug-19 08:24
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 414 Corpuscles 20-Aug-19 12:54
coming from a casual reader 423 drrayeye 20-Aug-19 14:20
Re: coming from a casual reader 412 Corpuscles 20-Aug-19 15:57
Re: coming from a casual reader 399 drrayeye 20-Aug-19 17:41
Re: coming from a casual reader 413 Corpuscles 20-Aug-19 20:18
280 million years 425 greengirl5 20-Aug-19 21:56
Re: 280 million years 405 Corpuscles 20-Aug-19 22:23
Re: 280 million years 405 greengirl5 21-Aug-19 06:41
Support for Mrs. O'Leary's "milk factory" (in song) 380 drrayeye 21-Aug-19 00:55
Re: coming from a casual gambler 379 Barbelo 20-Aug-19 21:36
Re: coming from a casual gambler 409 Corpuscles 20-Aug-19 21:46
Re: coming from a casual reader 387 Eddie Larry 21-Aug-19 00:03
Re: coming from a casual reader 388 Corpuscles 21-Aug-19 01:21
American joke 400 drrayeye 21-Aug-19 02:11
Re: coming from a casual reader 395 Eddie Larry 21-Aug-19 02:23
Re: coming from a casual reader 402 PB Bytes 20-Aug-19 16:32
Re: coming from a casual reader 374 drrayeye 20-Aug-19 17:46
Re: coming from a casual reader 393 PB Bytes 20-Aug-19 18:06
Re: coming from a casual reader 411 Corpuscles 20-Aug-19 20:33
Re: coming from a casual reader 388 PB Bytes 20-Aug-19 22:29
Re: coming from a casual reader 397 Corpuscles 20-Aug-19 22:52
Zodiacal Art & Precession 401 Barbelo 20-Aug-19 22:25
Re: Zodiacal Art & Precession 386 PB Bytes 21-Aug-19 04:36
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 421 PB Bytes 17-Aug-19 15:14
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 430 Rebecca Bradley 18-Aug-19 08:48
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 402 PB Bytes 18-Aug-19 16:38
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 390 Rebecca Bradley 20-Aug-19 07:53
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 394 Susan Doris 20-Aug-19 10:23
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 386 PB Bytes 20-Aug-19 19:36
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 403 Martinsw1 20-Aug-19 08:17
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 432 Rebecca Bradley 20-Aug-19 22:55
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 445 Corpuscles 20-Aug-19 23:16
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 447 Rebecca Bradley 22-Aug-19 06:48
The Test? 419 PB Bytes 21-Aug-19 15:59
Re: The Test? 404 Corpuscles 21-Aug-19 21:25
Re: The Test? 392 PB Bytes 21-Aug-19 21:58
Re: The Test? 409 Barbelo 21-Aug-19 22:05
Re: The Test? 405 Corpuscles 21-Aug-19 22:52
Re: The Test? 412 Rebecca Bradley 22-Aug-19 05:31
Re: The Test? 405 Barbelo 22-Aug-19 05:48
Re: The Test? 417 PB Bytes 22-Aug-19 14:21
Revising... The Test? 420 PB Bytes 22-Aug-19 16:48
animal anatomy lesson #1 427 hendrik dirker 22-Aug-19 19:02
Re: animal anatomy lesson #1 442 PB Bytes 22-Aug-19 19:06
Re: animal anatomy 417 hendrik dirker 24-Aug-19 06:09
Re: animal anatomy 450 PB Bytes 24-Aug-19 16:25
Re: Revising... The Test? 408 Rebecca Bradley 24-Aug-19 07:22
Re: Revising... The Test? 395 PB Bytes 24-Aug-19 15:30
Re: Revising... The Test? 391 Rebecca Bradley 31-Aug-19 06:03
Re: Revising... The Test? 386 PB Bytes 31-Aug-19 17:08
Re: Revising... The Test? 380 Eddie Larry 31-Aug-19 17:32
Re: Revising... The Test? 383 PB Bytes 31-Aug-19 19:52
Re: Revising... The Test? 382 Rebecca Bradley 01-Sep-19 04:03
Re: Revising... The Test? 366 PB Bytes 01-Sep-19 15:30
Re: Revising... The Test? 383 Eddie Larry 01-Sep-19 15:45
Re: Revising... The Test? 390 Rebecca Bradley 01-Sep-19 04:15
Research design perspective 414 drrayeye 14-Aug-19 22:21
Re: Research design perspective 383 Eddie Larry 14-Aug-19 22:43
Re: Research design perspective 404 Susan Doris 15-Aug-19 05:01
Re: Research design perspective 423 Martinsw1 15-Aug-19 07:08
Re: Research design perspective 401 PB Bytes 17-Aug-19 15:43
Re: Research design perspective 409 drrayeye 17-Aug-19 17:25
Re: Research design perspective 402 Martinsw1 18-Aug-19 08:00
Re: Research design perspective 389 drrayeye 18-Aug-19 21:42
Re: Research design perspective 409 Martinsw1 19-Aug-19 08:32
Re: Research design perspective 405 Corpuscles 19-Aug-19 22:32
Not Science, No Proof 434 Barbelo 18-Aug-19 22:44
Re: Not Science, No Proof 447 Martinsw1 19-Aug-19 08:35
Pomposity Levels Not Exceeded On This Board 410 Barbelo 19-Aug-19 11:03
Re: Pomposity Levels Not Exceeded On This Board 439 Martinsw1 20-Aug-19 08:58
Re: Pomposity Levels Not Exceeded On This Board 418 Barbelo 20-Aug-19 12:00
Earth orbital antics 446 hendrik dirker 20-Aug-19 18:39
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 478 Martinsw1 11-Aug-19 19:56
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 447 Corpuscles 12-Aug-19 06:12
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 465 Rebecca Bradley 12-Aug-19 06:42
individual subjectivity and objective consensus 460 PB Bytes 12-Aug-19 16:59
Re: individual subjectivity and objective consensus 442 Martinsw1 13-Aug-19 10:40
Other thoughts. 433 PB Bytes 13-Aug-19 16:32
Re: Other thoughts. 417 drrayeye 13-Aug-19 17:48
Re: Other thoughts. 430 PB Bytes 13-Aug-19 18:42
Re: Other thoughts. 422 drrayeye 13-Aug-19 19:06
Reading the book 424 greengirl5 13-Aug-19 22:40
Re: Reading the book 432 PB Bytes 14-Aug-19 03:11
Re: Other thoughts. 428 Corpuscles 14-Aug-19 01:20
Re: Other thoughts. 426 PB Bytes 14-Aug-19 02:51
Re: Other thoughts. 419 Eddie Larry 14-Aug-19 03:35
Re: Other thoughts. 399 PB Bytes 14-Aug-19 03:53
Re: Other thoughts. 411 Eddie Larry 14-Aug-19 17:54
Re: Other thoughts. 409 PB Bytes 14-Aug-19 19:02
Re: Other thoughts. 414 Eddie Larry 14-Aug-19 19:32
Re: Other thoughts. 405 PB Bytes 14-Aug-19 20:24
Re: Other thoughts. 423 Corpuscles 14-Aug-19 04:49
Re: Other thoughts. 425 Corpuscles 14-Aug-19 05:13
Re: Other thoughts. 416 PB Bytes 14-Aug-19 14:35
Dr. Sweatman, in case you didn't know... 491 PB Bytes 09-Aug-19 15:56
The Zodiac 431 hendrik dirker 10-Aug-19 12:00
Re: The Zodiac 453 PB Bytes 10-Aug-19 14:58
Scorpius, Orions belt, pareidolia 417 greengirl5 10-Aug-19 23:15
Re: Scorpius, Orions belt, pareidolia 406 PB Bytes 10-Aug-19 23:52
Re: Scorpius, Orions belt, pareidolia 422 greengirl5 11-Aug-19 00:07
Re: Scorpius, Orions belt, pareidolia 411 PB Bytes 11-Aug-19 00:20
Re: Scorpius, Orions belt, pareidolia 417 greengirl5 11-Aug-19 00:26
Just been outside to see Scorpius 426 greengirl5 11-Aug-19 11:40
Re: Just been outside to see Scorpius 409 greengirl5 11-Aug-19 12:51
Re: Just been outside to see Scorpius 437 Susan Doris 11-Aug-19 12:53
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 446 PB Bytes 12-Aug-19 14:18
Regarding the wider picture down the line 430 PB Bytes 14-Aug-19 16:47
Re: Regarding the wider picture down the line 480 Martinsw1 15-Aug-19 07:14
Re: Welcoming Dr Martin Sweatman our featured author for August 2019 466 Corpuscles 21-Aug-19 23:13
A new question 402 PB Bytes 01-Sep-19 17:25
Re: A new question 922 Rebecca Bradley 02-Sep-19 04:20


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