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drrayeye Wrote:
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> I'm still not sure how to characterize
> consciousness, Darryl.
>
> On one hand, there is solid scientific information
> to expand the concept, but the science, itself, is
> confused.
>
> On the other hand, there is a strong experiential
> justification for a Spirituality that transcends
> physical dimensions, but that's tied in with the
> confusion of science.
>
> It's been my field of study, it's a mess, and I
> can't see very clearly through the wreckage.

Consciousness is the real "final frontier", in my opinion - especially given my dabbling with psi.

My view of consciousness is abstract, because we haven't been able to get a handle on it scientifically. And the best approach to abstract thinking is to dispense with any ideas that definitely don't fit scientifically, and see what I'm left with. The one idea that doesn't fit is the view that consciousness is a metaphysical object sitting inside the brain (mind/soul/psyche), wholely distinct from matter. (It's ironic that this is the view that most people intuitively hold, but it's verifiably untrue, due to the fact that physical changes in the brain cause changes to consciousness.)

So if consciousness isn't an object (noun), can we model it as a verb? And that's the way forward, I think. It's not a statement that consciousness isn't real, but that it's a process in constant flux, not an entity.

Darryl

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Doesn't wonderment require a sense of spirituality? 594 drrayeye 08-Jun-19 13:57
Re: Doesn't wonderment require a sense of spirituality? 60 greengirl5 08-Jun-19 23:33
Re: Doesn't wonderment require a sense of spirituality? 59 Darryl Sloan 10-Jun-19 18:37
Re: Doesn't wonderment require a sense of spirituality? 55 drrayeye 11-Jun-19 04:07
Re: Doesn't wonderment require a sense of spirituality? 51 Darryl Sloan 11-Jun-19 10:07
Re: Doesn't wonderment require a sense of spirituality? 57 drrayeye 11-Jun-19 13:20
Re: Doesn't wonderment require a sense of spirituality? 40 Darryl Sloan 13-Jun-19 11:06
Re: Doesn't wonderment require a sense of spirituality? 40 drrayeye 13-Jun-19 12:02
Re: Doesn't wonderment require a sense of spirituality? 55 Eddie Larry 11-Jun-19 21:40
Re: Doesn't wonderment require a sense of spirituality? 44 Darryl Sloan 13-Jun-19 11:24
Re: Doesn't wonderment require a sense of spirituality? 48 Eddie Larry 13-Jun-19 14:47
Entanglement is a sort of buzz word 42 greengirl5 13-Jun-19 23:03
Not in physics 47 drrayeye 13-Jun-19 23:37
Re: Doesn't wonderment require a sense of spirituality? 42 Darryl Sloan 14-Jun-19 08:40
Re: Doesn't wonderment require a sense of spirituality? 49 Eddie Larry 14-Jun-19 13:41
computer emulation/simulation 44 drrayeye 18-Jun-19 21:39
Re: computer emulation/simulation 38 Darryl Sloan 20-Jun-19 08:40
Consciousness 35 drrayeye 20-Jun-19 11:37
Re: Consciousness 62 Darryl Sloan 20-Jun-19 12:14
Re: Consciousness 31 rulebook54 25-Jun-19 09:37
Re: Consciousness 38 Susan Doris 25-Jun-19 10:01
Re: Consciousness 46 cloister 25-Jun-19 11:02
Expanding consciousness--but how much? 40 drrayeye 27-Jun-19 01:02
Re: Expanding consciousness--but how much? 27 Darryl Sloan 28-Jun-19 09:33
Re: Expanding consciousness--but how much? 28 Susan Doris 28-Jun-19 14:52
Re: Expanding consciousness--but how much? 15 Darryl Sloan 30-Jun-19 19:06
Unfortunately 28 drrayeye 28-Jun-19 15:55
Re: Unfortunately 26 Susan Doris 29-Jun-19 05:19
Impossible to explain 21 drrayeye 29-Jun-19 11:19
Re: Impossible to explain 32 Susan Doris 29-Jun-19 12:25
Re: Unfortunately 50 Darryl Sloan 30-Jun-19 19:18
Re: Expanding consciousness--but how much? 31 Eddie Larry 28-Jun-19 17:04
Pythagoras and the much talked about consciousness 27 greengirl5 29-Jun-19 06:05
terrific 24 drrayeye 29-Jun-19 11:05
Re: Doesn't wonderment require a sense of spirituality? 40 rulebook54 28-Jun-19 18:09
Who's this "we"? 32 drrayeye 28-Jun-19 22:59


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