:) No matter - it is the pleasure of discussion which makes life interesting.Quote
I don't know whether to feel flattered or offended (kidding).
Yes, but I realise how important it is not to insert any kind of imaginative idea where the answers are not yet available, and in many cases, never will be.Quote
It's a curious characterisation of my stance: "a gap between fantasy and reality." Where we appear to differ is on the matter of naturalism. Your philosophical premise is that all of reality is explainable naturalistically.
I can assure you I do!Quote
Where I differ from this is that I'm fully willing to face the fact that we encounter parts of reality which utterly defy naturalistic explanation, and I don't think you're fully appreciating that.
I think I'll just quibble slightly with the phrase 'deep mystery'. Yes we humans have a myriad ways to categorise things, but the phrase you use carries implications of 'impossible ever to know'. You are almost certainly right in this, and there are only a few billion years left for any life to exist on this planet, and for the solar system to exist, so at the end of all that, those mysteries will rmain!Quote
One place is the low-entropy beginning of the Universe, the other is consciousness. There's no fantasy here on my part. We are faced with very real, deep mystery.
And I'd say for obvious, very clear reasons!! I've been a member of the JREF (now IS) form as long as I've been a member here. I've learnt so much in this last part of my life.Quote
It's interesting to me that atheists will consider a multiverse as a way of explaining the low-entropy beginning, but they won't consider some kind of intelligence at the heart of reality as a potential explanation. There's no tangible proof for either position. But one is massively favoured, while the other is taboo. The favoured one is naturalistic and the taboo one is metaphysical, and that seems to be the real bone of contention here.
And I for one have very much appreciated the way you have participated so interestingly. There are times when an AoM can be very precious about attempting to defend his/her way-out beliefs!Quote
And really, my original essay AoM was all about this very issue.