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Hi, GG. Sorry for the delay; I almost missed this one ...

greengirl5 Wrote:
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> Now, if we use the analogy of the ocean being all
> there is, a single drop of water is also the
> ocean, but not if it is thrown up in the air. Then
> it is a drop of water. It WAS the ocean before.

I feel that a better analogy is the ocean and the wave. You can look at several waves, they are separate from each other, but each one is inseparable from "ocean". There is no specific point at which the wave ends and the ocean begins.

> My own consciousness is also a bit lost as long as
> it is in my body. It is separated from the whole.
> People with near death and out of body experiences
> know something I don't.

I could equally say that my four-year-old self knows something I don't, because I have forgotten everything I experienced at that age. So is that a separate person? We say no. If you look carefully at consciousness, you can see that EVERYTHING that is not in your immediate awareness right now is separate from consciousness. So the lack of awareness you possess about what another person has experienced isn't any more fundamental a separation than the things that you have experienced which you can no longer remember.

When we use words like "I" and "you", are these really entities? Consciousness is better thought of as a verb than a noun. It's a doing, not a being. It's a coming into focus of the Universe, and it's in continual flux. It has no shape, materialistically. So there are all these different focal points of consciousness, walled off from each other. But they aren't objects in and of themselves. There's no entity called "the self". There is just what the Universe is doing here ... and there ... and over there.

I think of ESP as a kind of bleeding of the barrier that I'm talking about. And how do we do it? By non-thinking, of course (as with PK). By adjusting the focal setting so that the usual rules of "mind" do not apply. And ESP shows that we're not separate, by virtue of the ability of consciousness to bleed like this beyond the apparent barrier of the brain.

Non-duality.
I, Universe.
I = Universe.
Everything is one.

Darryl

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Parapsychology and wonderment 34758 Darryl Sloan 03-Jun-19 19:34
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 340 greengirl5 03-Jun-19 23:08
u-tube 322 greengirl5 04-Jun-19 03:54
Re: u-tube 317 greengirl5 04-Jun-19 06:17
Re: u-tube 318 Darryl Sloan 04-Jun-19 19:02
Re: u-tube 309 Darryl Sloan 04-Jun-19 18:58
Re: u-tube 287 greengirl5 04-Jun-19 22:29
Meaningful dreams 311 Darryl Sloan 04-Jun-19 18:47
Re: Meaningful dreams 299 greengirl5 04-Jun-19 22:46
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 304 PB Bytes 04-Jun-19 22:29
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 310 greengirl5 04-Jun-19 23:08
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 297 Eddie Larry 05-Jun-19 01:08
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 312 greengirl5 05-Jun-19 03:15
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 384 Eddie Larry 05-Jun-19 20:51
Who was Jesus? 343 Darryl Sloan 06-Jun-19 11:27
Re: Who was Jesus? 294 greengirl5 06-Jun-19 14:37
Re: Who was Jesus? 332 PB Bytes 06-Jun-19 15:49
Re: Who was Jesus? 305 greengirl5 06-Jun-19 22:21
Re: Who was Jesus? 299 PB Bytes 06-Jun-19 23:06
Re: Who was Jesus? And who were the Mayans? 298 greengirl5 06-Jun-19 23:40
And who were the Mayans? 313 PB Bytes 07-Jun-19 15:41
Winter solstice 2012 295 greengirl5 07-Jun-19 22:40
Re: Winter solstice 2012 309 PB Bytes 07-Jun-19 23:21
Re: Winter solstice 2012 286 greengirl5 07-Jun-19 23:51
Re: Who was Jesus? 296 Darryl Sloan 08-Jun-19 20:16
Questions 316 drrayeye 08-Jun-19 20:47
Re: Questions 333 Darryl Sloan 10-Jun-19 19:02
Re: Questions and maybe some answers? 286 greengirl5 11-Jun-19 00:03
Re: Questions and maybe some answers? 286 Darryl Sloan 14-Jun-19 09:28
Good and evil 281 greengirl5 14-Jun-19 22:59
Re: Good and evil 274 Darryl Sloan 17-Jun-19 11:19
Re: Questions 305 drrayeye 11-Jun-19 07:19
Re: Questions 287 Darryl Sloan 14-Jun-19 09:13
Scientists and Dualism 272 drrayeye 14-Jun-19 16:30
Re: Scientists and Dualism 283 Darryl Sloan 17-Jun-19 12:03
Re: Scientists and Dualism 296 drrayeye 17-Jun-19 16:10
Re: Scientists and Dualism 304 Susan Doris 17-Jun-19 17:25
Consciousness and the perceptual environment 290 drrayeye 18-Jun-19 04:10
Re: Who was Jesus? 302 PB Bytes 08-Jun-19 21:11
Re: Who was Jesus? 300 Darryl Sloan 10-Jun-19 19:20
A scholarly alternative 317 drrayeye 07-Jun-19 06:46
Re: A scholarly alternative 303 Darryl Sloan 10-Jun-19 19:09
Re: A scholarly alternative 323 Eddie Larry 11-Jun-19 21:19
Re: A scholarly alternative 302 greengirl5 11-Jun-19 22:11
Re: A scholarly alternative 325 Eddie Larry 11-Jun-19 22:21
Re: A scholarly alternative 308 SandyJesse 15-Jun-19 05:14
Re: A scholarly alternative 280 Darryl Sloan 17-Jun-19 11:23
Tiberius Julius Cotys Philocaesar Eusebes 292 Eddie Larry 17-Jun-19 22:32
Re: Tiberius Julius Cotys Philocaesar Eusebes 297 SandyJesse 18-Jun-19 02:56
Re: Tiberius Julius Cotys Philocaesar Eusebes 284 Eddie Larry 18-Jun-19 03:03
Re: A scholarly alternative 303 Darryl Sloan 13-Jun-19 11:58
Re: A scholarly alternative 298 Eddie Larry 13-Jun-19 14:04
Re: A scholarly alternative 282 Darryl Sloan 17-Jun-19 11:28
Re: A scholarly alternative 291 Eddie Larry 17-Jun-19 13:08
Follow me - on Facebook....... 278 greengirl5 17-Jun-19 23:10
Re: Follow me - on Facebook....... 290 Eddie Larry 18-Jun-19 01:42
After the resurrection...... 293 greengirl5 18-Jun-19 06:02
Re: After the resurrection...... 279 Eddie Larry 18-Jun-19 13:32
Well said 296 drrayeye 18-Jun-19 04:38
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 310 Darryl Sloan 06-Jun-19 10:05
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 289 Darryl Sloan 05-Jun-19 14:48
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 294 PB Bytes 05-Jun-19 15:37
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 298 Darryl Sloan 06-Jun-19 10:55
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 294 PB Bytes 06-Jun-19 15:38
au contraire 318 drrayeye 04-Jun-19 23:15
Re: au contraire 288 Darryl Sloan 05-Jun-19 15:05
Re: au contraire 321 drrayeye 05-Jun-19 19:56
Re: au contraire 304 Darryl Sloan 06-Jun-19 10:08
Re: au contraire 302 greengirl5 06-Jun-19 13:48
Re: au contraire 890 PB Bytes 06-Jun-19 15:31
Re: au contraire 306 drrayeye 06-Jun-19 16:11
Re: au contraire 309 PB Bytes 06-Jun-19 16:16
Consciousness 296 greengirl5 06-Jun-19 23:27
Our brains 315 greengirl5 07-Jun-19 00:56
Re: Consciousness 304 Darryl Sloan 13-Jun-19 11:50
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 329 Susan Doris 07-Jun-19 06:03
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 357 greengirl5 07-Jun-19 07:47
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 329 Susan Doris 07-Jun-19 07:53
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 304 greengirl5 07-Jun-19 23:59
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 309 Darryl Sloan 08-Jun-19 19:22
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 300 greengirl5 08-Jun-19 22:44
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 298 Susan Doris 09-Jun-19 05:23
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 312 SandyJesse 09-Jun-19 06:24
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 313 Susan Doris 09-Jun-19 07:19
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 299 greengirl5 09-Jun-19 09:12
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 309 Susan Doris 09-Jun-19 10:03
There it is again 291 greengirl5 09-Jun-19 12:07
Re: There it is again 302 Susan Doris 09-Jun-19 14:49
You know? 314 greengirl5 10-Jun-19 00:36
Re: You know? 292 Susan Doris 10-Jun-19 10:49
Re: You know? 298 greengirl5 10-Jun-19 13:47
Re: You know? 304 Eddie Larry 11-Jun-19 00:09
Re: You know? 274 Eddie Larry 11-Jun-19 21:43
Re: You know? 293 greengirl5 11-Jun-19 21:58
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 321 SandyJesse 10-Jun-19 06:38
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 319 greengirl5 10-Jun-19 09:48
How to make gold 311 greengirl5 15-Jun-19 07:47
Re: How to make gold 283 Darryl Sloan 17-Jun-19 11:07
Re: How to make gold 316 Susan Doris 17-Jun-19 17:31
Re: How to make gold 273 Darryl Sloan 18-Jun-19 08:15
Re: How to make gold 288 Susan Doris 18-Jun-19 09:41
Re: How to make gold 294 greengirl5 18-Jun-19 13:10
Re: How to make gold 296 Susan Doris 18-Jun-19 13:37
Re: How to make gold 283 greengirl5 18-Jun-19 23:30
Re: How to make gold 287 drrayeye 18-Jun-19 18:09
Re: How to make gold 282 greengirl5 18-Jun-19 23:14
Re: How to make gold 270 Darryl Sloan 20-Jun-19 11:44
The "para" is not going away, it is getting stronger. 276 greengirl5 20-Jun-19 23:32
Re: The "para" is not going away, it is getting stronger. 284 Susan Doris 21-Jun-19 09:43
Re: The "para" is not going away, it is getting stronger. 267 greengirl5 21-Jun-19 12:18
Re: How to make gold 284 Susan Doris 21-Jun-19 06:18
Re: How to make gold 264 greengirl5 21-Jun-19 12:14
Re: How to make gold 285 Susan Doris 21-Jun-19 14:42
Re: How to make gold 287 greengirl5 21-Jun-19 23:30
Re: How to make gold 273 Susan Doris 22-Jun-19 05:14
Re: How to make gold 268 greengirl5 22-Jun-19 06:26
Re: How to make gold 265 Susan Doris 22-Jun-19 07:04
Re: How to make gold 279 greengirl5 22-Jun-19 23:49
Re: How to make gold 268 Darryl Sloan 24-Jun-19 18:25
defying naturalistic explanations 282 drrayeye 24-Jun-19 23:32
Re: defying naturalistic explanations 257 Darryl Sloan 26-Jun-19 21:09
Science vs. speculation 579 drrayeye 26-Jun-19 21:57
Re: How to make gold 265 Susan Doris 25-Jun-19 05:57
Great advice to scientists! 270 greengirl5 25-Jun-19 07:24
Re: Great advice to scientists! 264 Susan Doris 25-Jun-19 10:07
Re: Great advice to scientists! 280 greengirl5 26-Jun-19 00:25
a very creative scientist shares his insights 267 drrayeye 25-Jun-19 11:50
Re: a very creative scientist shares his insights 282 Susan Doris 25-Jun-19 14:00
Re: How to make gold 256 Darryl Sloan 24-Jun-19 18:09
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 293 rulebook54 24-Jun-19 22:35
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 284 greengirl5 25-Jun-19 00:31
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 260 Susan Doris 25-Jun-19 06:05
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 265 greengirl5 25-Jun-19 07:11
Big consciousness, little consciousness. 261 greengirl5 25-Jun-19 02:37


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