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Hi, GG. Sorry for the delay; I almost missed this one ...

greengirl5 Wrote:
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> Now, if we use the analogy of the ocean being all
> there is, a single drop of water is also the
> ocean, but not if it is thrown up in the air. Then
> it is a drop of water. It WAS the ocean before.

I feel that a better analogy is the ocean and the wave. You can look at several waves, they are separate from each other, but each one is inseparable from "ocean". There is no specific point at which the wave ends and the ocean begins.

> My own consciousness is also a bit lost as long as
> it is in my body. It is separated from the whole.
> People with near death and out of body experiences
> know something I don't.

I could equally say that my four-year-old self knows something I don't, because I have forgotten everything I experienced at that age. So is that a separate person? We say no. If you look carefully at consciousness, you can see that EVERYTHING that is not in your immediate awareness right now is separate from consciousness. So the lack of awareness you possess about what another person has experienced isn't any more fundamental a separation than the things that you have experienced which you can no longer remember.

When we use words like "I" and "you", are these really entities? Consciousness is better thought of as a verb than a noun. It's a doing, not a being. It's a coming into focus of the Universe, and it's in continual flux. It has no shape, materialistically. So there are all these different focal points of consciousness, walled off from each other. But they aren't objects in and of themselves. There's no entity called "the self". There is just what the Universe is doing here ... and there ... and over there.

I think of ESP as a kind of bleeding of the barrier that I'm talking about. And how do we do it? By non-thinking, of course (as with PK). By adjusting the focal setting so that the usual rules of "mind" do not apply. And ESP shows that we're not separate, by virtue of the ability of consciousness to bleed like this beyond the apparent barrier of the brain.

Non-duality.
I, Universe.
I = Universe.
Everything is one.

Darryl

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Parapsychology and wonderment 33767 Darryl Sloan 03-Jun-19 19:34
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 169 greengirl5 03-Jun-19 23:08
u-tube 158 greengirl5 04-Jun-19 03:54
Re: u-tube 153 greengirl5 04-Jun-19 06:17
Re: u-tube 154 Darryl Sloan 04-Jun-19 19:02
Re: u-tube 153 Darryl Sloan 04-Jun-19 18:58
Re: u-tube 128 greengirl5 04-Jun-19 22:29
Meaningful dreams 156 Darryl Sloan 04-Jun-19 18:47
Re: Meaningful dreams 128 greengirl5 04-Jun-19 22:46
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 148 Poster Boy 04-Jun-19 22:29
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 144 greengirl5 04-Jun-19 23:08
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 141 Eddie Larry 05-Jun-19 01:08
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 143 greengirl5 05-Jun-19 03:15
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 186 Eddie Larry 05-Jun-19 20:51
Who was Jesus? 164 Darryl Sloan 06-Jun-19 11:27
Re: Who was Jesus? 139 greengirl5 06-Jun-19 14:37
Re: Who was Jesus? 159 Poster Boy 06-Jun-19 15:49
Re: Who was Jesus? 139 greengirl5 06-Jun-19 22:21
Re: Who was Jesus? 142 Poster Boy 06-Jun-19 23:06
Re: Who was Jesus? And who were the Mayans? 144 greengirl5 06-Jun-19 23:40
And who were the Mayans? 141 Poster Boy 07-Jun-19 15:41
Winter solstice 2012 135 greengirl5 07-Jun-19 22:40
Re: Winter solstice 2012 134 Poster Boy 07-Jun-19 23:21
Re: Winter solstice 2012 130 greengirl5 07-Jun-19 23:51
Re: Who was Jesus? 139 Darryl Sloan 08-Jun-19 20:16
Questions 149 drrayeye 08-Jun-19 20:47
Re: Questions 153 Darryl Sloan 10-Jun-19 19:02
Re: Questions and maybe some answers? 128 greengirl5 11-Jun-19 00:03
Re: Questions and maybe some answers? 135 Darryl Sloan 14-Jun-19 09:28
Good and evil 124 greengirl5 14-Jun-19 22:59
Re: Good and evil 121 Darryl Sloan 17-Jun-19 11:19
Re: Questions 135 drrayeye 11-Jun-19 07:19
Re: Questions 124 Darryl Sloan 14-Jun-19 09:13
Scientists and Dualism 123 drrayeye 14-Jun-19 16:30
Re: Scientists and Dualism 129 Darryl Sloan 17-Jun-19 12:03
Re: Scientists and Dualism 128 drrayeye 17-Jun-19 16:10
Re: Scientists and Dualism 133 Susan Doris 17-Jun-19 17:25
Consciousness and the perceptual environment 123 drrayeye 18-Jun-19 04:10
Re: Who was Jesus? 147 Poster Boy 08-Jun-19 21:11
Re: Who was Jesus? 136 Darryl Sloan 10-Jun-19 19:20
A scholarly alternative 139 drrayeye 07-Jun-19 06:46
Re: A scholarly alternative 140 Darryl Sloan 10-Jun-19 19:09
Re: A scholarly alternative 138 Eddie Larry 11-Jun-19 21:19
Re: A scholarly alternative 132 greengirl5 11-Jun-19 22:11
Re: A scholarly alternative 151 Eddie Larry 11-Jun-19 22:21
Re: A scholarly alternative 134 SandyJesse 15-Jun-19 05:14
Re: A scholarly alternative 125 Darryl Sloan 17-Jun-19 11:23
Tiberius Julius Cotys Philocaesar Eusebes 131 Eddie Larry 17-Jun-19 22:32
Re: Tiberius Julius Cotys Philocaesar Eusebes 133 SandyJesse 18-Jun-19 02:56
Re: Tiberius Julius Cotys Philocaesar Eusebes 127 Eddie Larry 18-Jun-19 03:03
Re: A scholarly alternative 133 Darryl Sloan 13-Jun-19 11:58
Re: A scholarly alternative 146 Eddie Larry 13-Jun-19 14:04
Re: A scholarly alternative 126 Darryl Sloan 17-Jun-19 11:28
Re: A scholarly alternative 130 Eddie Larry 17-Jun-19 13:08
Follow me - on Facebook....... 126 greengirl5 17-Jun-19 23:10
Re: Follow me - on Facebook....... 133 Eddie Larry 18-Jun-19 01:42
After the resurrection...... 126 greengirl5 18-Jun-19 06:02
Re: After the resurrection...... 123 Eddie Larry 18-Jun-19 13:32
Well said 132 drrayeye 18-Jun-19 04:38
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 146 Darryl Sloan 06-Jun-19 10:05
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 136 Darryl Sloan 05-Jun-19 14:48
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 137 Poster Boy 05-Jun-19 15:37
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 133 Darryl Sloan 06-Jun-19 10:55
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 134 Poster Boy 06-Jun-19 15:38
au contraire 158 drrayeye 04-Jun-19 23:15
Re: au contraire 141 Darryl Sloan 05-Jun-19 15:05
Re: au contraire 151 drrayeye 05-Jun-19 19:56
Re: au contraire 145 Darryl Sloan 06-Jun-19 10:08
Re: au contraire 136 greengirl5 06-Jun-19 13:48
Re: au contraire 726 Poster Boy 06-Jun-19 15:31
Re: au contraire 140 drrayeye 06-Jun-19 16:11
Re: au contraire 145 Poster Boy 06-Jun-19 16:16
Consciousness 135 greengirl5 06-Jun-19 23:27
Our brains 146 greengirl5 07-Jun-19 00:56
Re: Consciousness 131 Darryl Sloan 13-Jun-19 11:50
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 151 Susan Doris 07-Jun-19 06:03
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 152 greengirl5 07-Jun-19 07:47
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 151 Susan Doris 07-Jun-19 07:53
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 146 greengirl5 07-Jun-19 23:59
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 147 Darryl Sloan 08-Jun-19 19:22
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 134 greengirl5 08-Jun-19 22:44
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 144 Susan Doris 09-Jun-19 05:23
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 145 SandyJesse 09-Jun-19 06:24
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 138 Susan Doris 09-Jun-19 07:19
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 138 greengirl5 09-Jun-19 09:12
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 137 Susan Doris 09-Jun-19 10:03
There it is again 130 greengirl5 09-Jun-19 12:07
Re: There it is again 144 Susan Doris 09-Jun-19 14:49
You know? 150 greengirl5 10-Jun-19 00:36
Re: You know? 134 Susan Doris 10-Jun-19 10:49
Re: You know? 134 greengirl5 10-Jun-19 13:47
Re: You know? 139 Eddie Larry 11-Jun-19 00:09
Re: You know? 123 Eddie Larry 11-Jun-19 21:43
Re: You know? 129 greengirl5 11-Jun-19 21:58
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 158 SandyJesse 10-Jun-19 06:38
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 160 greengirl5 10-Jun-19 09:48
How to make gold 151 greengirl5 15-Jun-19 07:47
Re: How to make gold 128 Darryl Sloan 17-Jun-19 11:07
Re: How to make gold 150 Susan Doris 17-Jun-19 17:31
Re: How to make gold 123 Darryl Sloan 18-Jun-19 08:15
Re: How to make gold 127 Susan Doris 18-Jun-19 09:41
Re: How to make gold 129 greengirl5 18-Jun-19 13:10
Re: How to make gold 127 Susan Doris 18-Jun-19 13:37
Re: How to make gold 125 greengirl5 18-Jun-19 23:30
Re: How to make gold 124 drrayeye 18-Jun-19 18:09
Re: How to make gold 122 greengirl5 18-Jun-19 23:14
Re: How to make gold 119 Darryl Sloan 20-Jun-19 11:44
The "para" is not going away, it is getting stronger. 122 greengirl5 20-Jun-19 23:32
Re: The "para" is not going away, it is getting stronger. 121 Susan Doris 21-Jun-19 09:43
Re: The "para" is not going away, it is getting stronger. 111 greengirl5 21-Jun-19 12:18
Re: How to make gold 126 Susan Doris 21-Jun-19 06:18
Re: How to make gold 114 greengirl5 21-Jun-19 12:14
Re: How to make gold 128 Susan Doris 21-Jun-19 14:42
Re: How to make gold 123 greengirl5 21-Jun-19 23:30
Re: How to make gold 123 Susan Doris 22-Jun-19 05:14
Re: How to make gold 116 greengirl5 22-Jun-19 06:26
Re: How to make gold 122 Susan Doris 22-Jun-19 07:04
Re: How to make gold 126 greengirl5 22-Jun-19 23:49
Re: How to make gold 114 Darryl Sloan 24-Jun-19 18:25
defying naturalistic explanations 118 drrayeye 24-Jun-19 23:32
Re: defying naturalistic explanations 102 Darryl Sloan 26-Jun-19 21:09
Science vs. speculation 341 drrayeye 26-Jun-19 21:57
Re: How to make gold 115 Susan Doris 25-Jun-19 05:57
Great advice to scientists! 115 greengirl5 25-Jun-19 07:24
Re: Great advice to scientists! 116 Susan Doris 25-Jun-19 10:07
Re: Great advice to scientists! 121 greengirl5 26-Jun-19 00:25
a very creative scientist shares his insights 111 drrayeye 25-Jun-19 11:50
Re: a very creative scientist shares his insights 127 Susan Doris 25-Jun-19 14:00
Re: How to make gold 112 Darryl Sloan 24-Jun-19 18:09
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 127 rulebook54 24-Jun-19 22:35
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 123 greengirl5 25-Jun-19 00:31
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 113 Susan Doris 25-Jun-19 06:05
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 109 greengirl5 25-Jun-19 07:11
Big consciousness, little consciousness. 116 greengirl5 25-Jun-19 02:37


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