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Darryl Sloan Wrote:
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> Poster Boy Wrote:
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> -----
> > I have always found this passage to be
> > interesting, On the point you raise, it is
> > recorded that Jesus said, "I will build my
> church,
> > and the gates of Hades will not overcome it"
> > (Matthew 16:18).
> >
> > What I find fascinating, is that 1.618 is the
> > number for Phi, which in turn is the basis for
> the
> > Fibonacci sequence, which in turn is known to
> > relate, throughout nature, to renewal or
> > regeneration.
>
> But you have to bear in mind that the chapter &
> verse numbers in the Bible are not part of the
> ancient text. They were inserted relatively
> recently, the 16th century, as a means of
> reference. I don't think the 16:18 is any more
> significant than the Royal Flush that I just
> happened to get straight off the deck, one
> evening, playing poker with friends.
>
> Darryl


Hi Darryl,

There are differences. The PhiFibonacci combination is thematically relevant to the verse, as in papal sucession renewal, AND the verse is highly significant in at least the Catholic sphere of Christianity.

As I see it, the Royal Flush is necessary to the improbability question. What if the 1618 non random. That question needs to be qualified. Why even ask, since random causation is so very reliable?

The root here is always improbability to which one should ask, What kind of Royal Flush!? Are you saying that you pulled an RC with 5 cards, that's a once every 650,000 hands kind of event.

So, Matt 1618 is relevant thematically, but how rare is the 1618 string or how improbable? Quite improbable, I would think. But my main point is that one needs long odds and relevance, to something of consequence rather than trivial, as one sees with Matt 1618. Regards, pb

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