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greengirl5 Wrote:
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> The world we live in today certainly is a big
> change from what it was not long ago, say 100
> years. It might not have changed precisely at the
> new millennium, but changed it has, even in my own
> life span. So, maybe these Mayans knew something!?
> How they knew it is another question.
>
> GG.

Hi GG, just to be clear, the entire notion that something big was going to happen in 2012, on December 21, 2012, to be exact, was based on highly propagated misunderstandings of what '2012' represented, and propagated by two main forces. In the one corner, you had the New Agers, who took the turning of the Long Count, on that date, to mean various major changes were going to occur on that date - the end of the world, a Second Coming, or whatever. In the other corner, you had the militant skeptics, who took all of those misunderstandings and made them the entire focus of "2012".

Caught in the crossfire, were the real reasons why the LC was a truly remarkable archaeological artifact, on par with the Great Pyramids and the very best that the ancient world has to offer. The facts are as follows: Sometime prior to the birth of Christ, around 2100 years ago, for whatever reason the Mayans were able to track the apparent motion of the Sun, over 20 centuries, to a degree of accuracy exceeding 99.9999 percent, in terms that anticipated Winter Solstice on 2012 and the Sun's location then, over the 'nuclear bulge' of the Milky way which they regarded as the birth place of creation (which is entirely correct, in a local astronomical sense). In addition to this, they constructed a Long Ball court - a Mayan ritual center - in the region of southern Mexico where the Long Count is said to have originated. On the morning of December 21, 2012, the Sun rose over the ball court's targeted end in virtually perfect alignment, which added the 'so below' to the 'as above' targetting of the Sun relative to the Milky Way.

That nothing happened of major consequence on December 21, 2012 is beside the point, since the Long Count is said to be about the turning of a new age. 1618 comes into play for being the final 'baktun' of 13 in the previous 5,000 year cycle. Just as surely as falling leaves in late summer portend the character of autumn, this final baktun is supposed to indicate what the coming global transformation is supposed to be like. 1618 could hardly provide a better thematic hit for what we didn't know in 1618, which was how extraordinarily the scientific age would literally transform the world. By 2012 we knew this, and knew this very well. In other words, for whatever reason, the Mayan Long Count calendar did indeed prove prophetic, and did so long before it turned on December 21, 2012. It validated itself years before the turning, when the late John Major Jenkins outlined the As Above, So Below orientation of the Long Count in the late 20th century.

Who were the Mayans, you ask? My question would be, what is the basis of their knowledge? How can priests who are limited to naked-eye astronomy prove able to track the apparent motion of the Sun so accurately, and prove that point by building a ritual center that targets the December 21, 2012 position so accurately? Therein lies the great mystery, the reason why 2012 was truly interesting- that which got buried in the crossfire between New age fantasy projection and militant skepticism.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07-Jun-19 18:33 by Poster Boy.

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Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 237 greengirl5 03-Jun-19 23:08
u-tube 222 greengirl5 04-Jun-19 03:54
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Re: u-tube 217 Darryl Sloan 04-Jun-19 19:02
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Re: u-tube 191 greengirl5 04-Jun-19 22:29
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Re: Meaningful dreams 198 greengirl5 04-Jun-19 22:46
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 210 Poster Boy 04-Jun-19 22:29
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 212 greengirl5 04-Jun-19 23:08
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 202 Eddie Larry 05-Jun-19 01:08
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 211 greengirl5 05-Jun-19 03:15
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 277 Eddie Larry 05-Jun-19 20:51
Who was Jesus? 235 Darryl Sloan 06-Jun-19 11:27
Re: Who was Jesus? 201 greengirl5 06-Jun-19 14:37
Re: Who was Jesus? 235 Poster Boy 06-Jun-19 15:49
Re: Who was Jesus? 201 greengirl5 06-Jun-19 22:21
Re: Who was Jesus? 203 Poster Boy 06-Jun-19 23:06
Re: Who was Jesus? And who were the Mayans? 205 greengirl5 06-Jun-19 23:40
And who were the Mayans? 207 Poster Boy 07-Jun-19 15:41
Winter solstice 2012 198 greengirl5 07-Jun-19 22:40
Re: Winter solstice 2012 205 Poster Boy 07-Jun-19 23:21
Re: Winter solstice 2012 189 greengirl5 07-Jun-19 23:51
Re: Who was Jesus? 198 Darryl Sloan 08-Jun-19 20:16
Questions 213 drrayeye 08-Jun-19 20:47
Re: Questions 227 Darryl Sloan 10-Jun-19 19:02
Re: Questions and maybe some answers? 194 greengirl5 11-Jun-19 00:03
Re: Questions and maybe some answers? 193 Darryl Sloan 14-Jun-19 09:28
Good and evil 187 greengirl5 14-Jun-19 22:59
Re: Good and evil 180 Darryl Sloan 17-Jun-19 11:19
Re: Questions 201 drrayeye 11-Jun-19 07:19
Re: Questions 188 Darryl Sloan 14-Jun-19 09:13
Scientists and Dualism 180 drrayeye 14-Jun-19 16:30
Re: Scientists and Dualism 190 Darryl Sloan 17-Jun-19 12:03
Re: Scientists and Dualism 193 drrayeye 17-Jun-19 16:10
Re: Scientists and Dualism 198 Susan Doris 17-Jun-19 17:25
Consciousness and the perceptual environment 192 drrayeye 18-Jun-19 04:10
Re: Who was Jesus? 207 Poster Boy 08-Jun-19 21:11
Re: Who was Jesus? 204 Darryl Sloan 10-Jun-19 19:20
A scholarly alternative 212 drrayeye 07-Jun-19 06:46
Re: A scholarly alternative 205 Darryl Sloan 10-Jun-19 19:09
Re: A scholarly alternative 215 Eddie Larry 11-Jun-19 21:19
Re: A scholarly alternative 203 greengirl5 11-Jun-19 22:11
Re: A scholarly alternative 224 Eddie Larry 11-Jun-19 22:21
Re: A scholarly alternative 201 SandyJesse 15-Jun-19 05:14
Re: A scholarly alternative 187 Darryl Sloan 17-Jun-19 11:23
Tiberius Julius Cotys Philocaesar Eusebes 195 Eddie Larry 17-Jun-19 22:32
Re: Tiberius Julius Cotys Philocaesar Eusebes 198 SandyJesse 18-Jun-19 02:56
Re: Tiberius Julius Cotys Philocaesar Eusebes 188 Eddie Larry 18-Jun-19 03:03
Re: A scholarly alternative 197 Darryl Sloan 13-Jun-19 11:58
Re: A scholarly alternative 206 Eddie Larry 13-Jun-19 14:04
Re: A scholarly alternative 187 Darryl Sloan 17-Jun-19 11:28
Re: A scholarly alternative 191 Eddie Larry 17-Jun-19 13:08
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After the resurrection...... 193 greengirl5 18-Jun-19 06:02
Re: After the resurrection...... 187 Eddie Larry 18-Jun-19 13:32
Well said 194 drrayeye 18-Jun-19 04:38
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 210 Darryl Sloan 06-Jun-19 10:05
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 194 Darryl Sloan 05-Jun-19 14:48
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 201 Poster Boy 05-Jun-19 15:37
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 195 Darryl Sloan 06-Jun-19 10:55
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 195 Poster Boy 06-Jun-19 15:38
au contraire 221 drrayeye 04-Jun-19 23:15
Re: au contraire 197 Darryl Sloan 05-Jun-19 15:05
Re: au contraire 218 drrayeye 05-Jun-19 19:56
Re: au contraire 206 Darryl Sloan 06-Jun-19 10:08
Re: au contraire 198 greengirl5 06-Jun-19 13:48
Re: au contraire 791 Poster Boy 06-Jun-19 15:31
Re: au contraire 207 drrayeye 06-Jun-19 16:11
Re: au contraire 209 Poster Boy 06-Jun-19 16:16
Consciousness 195 greengirl5 06-Jun-19 23:27
Our brains 209 greengirl5 07-Jun-19 00:56
Re: Consciousness 196 Darryl Sloan 13-Jun-19 11:50
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 225 Susan Doris 07-Jun-19 06:03
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 252 greengirl5 07-Jun-19 07:47
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 221 Susan Doris 07-Jun-19 07:53
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 210 greengirl5 07-Jun-19 23:59
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 211 Darryl Sloan 08-Jun-19 19:22
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 201 greengirl5 08-Jun-19 22:44
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 204 Susan Doris 09-Jun-19 05:23
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 209 SandyJesse 09-Jun-19 06:24
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 214 Susan Doris 09-Jun-19 07:19
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 201 greengirl5 09-Jun-19 09:12
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 204 Susan Doris 09-Jun-19 10:03
There it is again 191 greengirl5 09-Jun-19 12:07
Re: There it is again 206 Susan Doris 09-Jun-19 14:49
You know? 215 greengirl5 10-Jun-19 00:36
Re: You know? 194 Susan Doris 10-Jun-19 10:49
Re: You know? 199 greengirl5 10-Jun-19 13:47
Re: You know? 201 Eddie Larry 11-Jun-19 00:09
Re: You know? 181 Eddie Larry 11-Jun-19 21:43
Re: You know? 193 greengirl5 11-Jun-19 21:58
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 219 SandyJesse 10-Jun-19 06:38
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 222 greengirl5 10-Jun-19 09:48
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Re: How to make gold 188 Darryl Sloan 17-Jun-19 11:07
Re: How to make gold 216 Susan Doris 17-Jun-19 17:31
Re: How to make gold 182 Darryl Sloan 18-Jun-19 08:15
Re: How to make gold 187 Susan Doris 18-Jun-19 09:41
Re: How to make gold 199 greengirl5 18-Jun-19 13:10
Re: How to make gold 198 Susan Doris 18-Jun-19 13:37
Re: How to make gold 185 greengirl5 18-Jun-19 23:30
Re: How to make gold 183 drrayeye 18-Jun-19 18:09
Re: How to make gold 186 greengirl5 18-Jun-19 23:14
Re: How to make gold 176 Darryl Sloan 20-Jun-19 11:44
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Re: The "para" is not going away, it is getting stronger. 188 Susan Doris 21-Jun-19 09:43
Re: The "para" is not going away, it is getting stronger. 172 greengirl5 21-Jun-19 12:18
Re: How to make gold 191 Susan Doris 21-Jun-19 06:18
Re: How to make gold 172 greengirl5 21-Jun-19 12:14
Re: How to make gold 187 Susan Doris 21-Jun-19 14:42
Re: How to make gold 190 greengirl5 21-Jun-19 23:30
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Re: How to make gold 180 greengirl5 22-Jun-19 06:26
Re: How to make gold 177 Susan Doris 22-Jun-19 07:04
Re: How to make gold 184 greengirl5 22-Jun-19 23:49
Re: How to make gold 172 Darryl Sloan 24-Jun-19 18:25
defying naturalistic explanations 183 drrayeye 24-Jun-19 23:32
Re: defying naturalistic explanations 159 Darryl Sloan 26-Jun-19 21:09
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Re: How to make gold 173 Susan Doris 25-Jun-19 05:57
Great advice to scientists! 175 greengirl5 25-Jun-19 07:24
Re: Great advice to scientists! 171 Susan Doris 25-Jun-19 10:07
Re: Great advice to scientists! 185 greengirl5 26-Jun-19 00:25
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Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 188 greengirl5 25-Jun-19 00:31
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 170 Susan Doris 25-Jun-19 06:05
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 173 greengirl5 25-Jun-19 07:11
Big consciousness, little consciousness. 172 greengirl5 25-Jun-19 02:37


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