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I have always found this passage to be interesting, On the point you raise, it is recorded that Jesus said, "I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it" (Matthew 16:18).

What I find fascinating, is that 1.618 is the number for Phi, which in turn is the basis for the Fibonacci sequence, which in turn is known to relate, throughout nature, to renewal or regeneration. In the case of the Fibonacci sequence, the sequence is based on the renewal of the same arithmetic function, of adding the two adjacent numbers in the sequence to get the next one in the sequence. Dividing the greater number next to the adjacent smaller one produces ever-closer approximations to 1.618, hence the 'golden ratio'.

As a mathematical metaphor, the verse Matt 16.18 is highly complementary to the Fibonacci's noted properties. That's because this story is believed to involve Jesus appointing Peter as the first leader of the Church, aka the first Pope. In other words, Peter is regarded, as a tenet of Catholic dogma, as the first person in a line of succession that is in turn based on renewal.

Those are the facts. Whether it is a random coincidence is one thing, but at times like this I think it is fair and reasonable comment to mention a mechanism to which self-professed rational (as in reasonable) humans are seen to defer: As improbability rises, at a certain point 'chance' is seen to be a poor if not irrelevant explanation of events.

Finally, if anyone is interested, here's a link to a related post where 1618 appears, at a quite perfect time, in thematic (renewal) relation to the turning of the Mayan Long Count calendar.

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Re: Who was Jesus? And who were the Mayans? 157 greengirl5 06-Jun-19 23:40
And who were the Mayans? 156 Poster Boy 07-Jun-19 15:41
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Re: Winter solstice 2012 142 greengirl5 07-Jun-19 23:51
Re: Who was Jesus? 152 Darryl Sloan 08-Jun-19 20:16
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Re: Questions and maybe some answers? 142 greengirl5 11-Jun-19 00:03
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Re: Who was Jesus? 159 Poster Boy 08-Jun-19 21:11
Re: Who was Jesus? 147 Darryl Sloan 10-Jun-19 19:20
A scholarly alternative 152 drrayeye 07-Jun-19 06:46
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Re: A scholarly alternative 138 Darryl Sloan 17-Jun-19 11:23
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Re: A scholarly alternative 158 Eddie Larry 13-Jun-19 14:04
Re: A scholarly alternative 136 Darryl Sloan 17-Jun-19 11:28
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Re: After the resurrection...... 136 Eddie Larry 18-Jun-19 13:32
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Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 159 Darryl Sloan 06-Jun-19 10:05
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 147 Darryl Sloan 05-Jun-19 14:48
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 152 Poster Boy 05-Jun-19 15:37
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 146 Darryl Sloan 06-Jun-19 10:55
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 148 Poster Boy 06-Jun-19 15:38
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Our brains 159 greengirl5 07-Jun-19 00:56
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There it is again 143 greengirl5 09-Jun-19 12:07
Re: There it is again 157 Susan Doris 09-Jun-19 14:49
You know? 161 greengirl5 10-Jun-19 00:36
Re: You know? 146 Susan Doris 10-Jun-19 10:49
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Re: You know? 153 Eddie Larry 11-Jun-19 00:09
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The "para" is not going away, it is getting stronger. 134 greengirl5 20-Jun-19 23:32
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Big consciousness, little consciousness. 127 greengirl5 25-Jun-19 02:37


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