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It is hard to know what he really said or did. And did he actually live? Everybody seems to think he said and did things they like him to have done. Was he married or not? Why should we care?
However, the things I like to be true, whether they are or not, are that he said it was not him that did the healing miracles, but God. Maybe you don't believe in God as a human person, and neither do I. Jesus is supposed to have said that if we ask we will receive. It has worked for me, very well indeed, but I have always first done my utmost myself, and the saying goes that God helps those who help themselves. I know, lots of people have prayed and not received, like in the holocaust, and I don't know how my own last year's will be. But I don't have an answer to that.
Somehow, believing first that you have already got what you pray for is a damn good idea, and I got that from Jesus, whoever or whatever he was, if he was. It is sending your thoughts away, but positively. Call it visualising if that sounds better than praying.

Also what he was supposed to have said about loving yourself as your neighbour. And even you enemy. That is Eastern teachings, and maybe he had it from there. He is supposed to have had knowledge, and recently I read that Joseph of Arimethea, the one whose grave he got put in, was his rich uncle, who had tin mines in England. I read that he travelled with his uncle a lot when he was young. Have you come across any of that? There are these stories of Joseph being in England, and some persistent sayings about him and his tin mines, in those areas in England.
Interesting, but for me, not overly anymore.

I will stick with what has been true for me in my long life. I have collected a whole lot of paranormal things from my life in a small binder. Just so I won't forget. And my son is luckily for me, also interested in these things, and we discuss it often.

Some other author has written books about Jesus, wanting to liberate him from the church and has the opinion that his most important job was to get rid of religion, like the sabbath was meant for people, not the other way round.

Oh, I dunno. Stopped believing his mum was a virgin long ago, if I ever did believe it. Can't remember.

Every Xmas I write about Santa Clause and how I and my sister did not believe in him, as we had piggy banks and used them for presents for our parents and we knew where our own presents came from.

Oh, well.

One more thought. All those peadophile priests, could they have lost their beliefs and thought they might as well please themselves, even if they hurt the kids, as there is neither heaven nor hell? I saw a horrible film on TV many years ago, half documentary.


GG.



Darryl Sloan Wrote:
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> Hi, GG.
>
> "I don't think Jesus wanted to start a new church,
> contrary to what is said in the churches."
>
> I was a Christian for about 18 years. These days,
> I don't have a very high opinion of Jesus. On the
> point you raise, it is recorded that he said, "I
> will build my church, and the gates of Hades will
> not overcome it" (Matthew 16:18).
>
> He was essentially a cult leader. He told people
> to follow him blindly without critical thinking,
> accepted their adoration, told them to sacrifice
> all their personal savings to the cult. Typical
> cult leader behaviour.
>
> In keeping with the ignorance of his time, he
> interpreted epilepsy as demonic possession ("Even
> while the boy was coming, the demon threw him to
> the ground in a convulsion. But Jesus rebuked the
> impure spirit, healed the boy and gave him back to
> his father" [Luke 9:42]). He was hateful towards
> people who didn't want to listen to his teachings
> ("If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your
> words, leave that home or town and shake the dust
> off your feet" [Matthew 10:14]).
>
> As for the alleged miracles, the most telling one
> is when he was hanging on the cross and darkness
> fell across the land for three hours in the
> afternoon ("From noon until three in the afternoon
> darkness came over all the land" [Matthew 27:45]).
> It's telling because it's not recorded by other
> historians. I would think that a widespread
> supernatural weather phenomenon would have merited
> mention outside of Christianity, if it actually
> happened. Obviously, it didn't - which calls into
> question all the recorded miracles.
>
> Overall, I find Jesus to be a dangerous and
> egomaniacal character. Everything in the past two
> millennia that has been done in his name is, in
> part, his responsibility.
>
> Darryl

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Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 256 greengirl5 03-Jun-19 23:08
u-tube 241 greengirl5 04-Jun-19 03:54
Re: u-tube 235 greengirl5 04-Jun-19 06:17
Re: u-tube 235 Darryl Sloan 04-Jun-19 19:02
Re: u-tube 225 Darryl Sloan 04-Jun-19 18:58
Re: u-tube 208 greengirl5 04-Jun-19 22:29
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Re: Meaningful dreams 215 greengirl5 04-Jun-19 22:46
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 224 Poster Boy 04-Jun-19 22:29
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 229 greengirl5 04-Jun-19 23:08
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 216 Eddie Larry 05-Jun-19 01:08
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 227 greengirl5 05-Jun-19 03:15
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 292 Eddie Larry 05-Jun-19 20:51
Who was Jesus? 249 Darryl Sloan 06-Jun-19 11:27
Re: Who was Jesus? 213 greengirl5 06-Jun-19 14:37
Re: Who was Jesus? 248 Poster Boy 06-Jun-19 15:49
Re: Who was Jesus? 221 greengirl5 06-Jun-19 22:21
Re: Who was Jesus? 217 Poster Boy 06-Jun-19 23:06
Re: Who was Jesus? And who were the Mayans? 217 greengirl5 06-Jun-19 23:40
And who were the Mayans? 226 Poster Boy 07-Jun-19 15:41
Winter solstice 2012 212 greengirl5 07-Jun-19 22:40
Re: Winter solstice 2012 227 Poster Boy 07-Jun-19 23:21
Re: Winter solstice 2012 205 greengirl5 07-Jun-19 23:51
Re: Who was Jesus? 214 Darryl Sloan 08-Jun-19 20:16
Questions 228 drrayeye 08-Jun-19 20:47
Re: Questions 242 Darryl Sloan 10-Jun-19 19:02
Re: Questions and maybe some answers? 206 greengirl5 11-Jun-19 00:03
Re: Questions and maybe some answers? 206 Darryl Sloan 14-Jun-19 09:28
Good and evil 202 greengirl5 14-Jun-19 22:59
Re: Good and evil 196 Darryl Sloan 17-Jun-19 11:19
Re: Questions 218 drrayeye 11-Jun-19 07:19
Re: Questions 205 Darryl Sloan 14-Jun-19 09:13
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Re: Scientists and Dualism 205 Darryl Sloan 17-Jun-19 12:03
Re: Scientists and Dualism 212 drrayeye 17-Jun-19 16:10
Re: Scientists and Dualism 216 Susan Doris 17-Jun-19 17:25
Consciousness and the perceptual environment 208 drrayeye 18-Jun-19 04:10
Re: Who was Jesus? 220 Poster Boy 08-Jun-19 21:11
Re: Who was Jesus? 219 Darryl Sloan 10-Jun-19 19:20
A scholarly alternative 233 drrayeye 07-Jun-19 06:46
Re: A scholarly alternative 221 Darryl Sloan 10-Jun-19 19:09
Re: A scholarly alternative 240 Eddie Larry 11-Jun-19 21:19
Re: A scholarly alternative 222 greengirl5 11-Jun-19 22:11
Re: A scholarly alternative 240 Eddie Larry 11-Jun-19 22:21
Re: A scholarly alternative 225 SandyJesse 15-Jun-19 05:14
Re: A scholarly alternative 200 Darryl Sloan 17-Jun-19 11:23
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Re: Tiberius Julius Cotys Philocaesar Eusebes 218 SandyJesse 18-Jun-19 02:56
Re: Tiberius Julius Cotys Philocaesar Eusebes 204 Eddie Larry 18-Jun-19 03:03
Re: A scholarly alternative 218 Darryl Sloan 13-Jun-19 11:58
Re: A scholarly alternative 216 Eddie Larry 13-Jun-19 14:04
Re: A scholarly alternative 200 Darryl Sloan 17-Jun-19 11:28
Re: A scholarly alternative 206 Eddie Larry 17-Jun-19 13:08
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Re: Follow me - on Facebook....... 206 Eddie Larry 18-Jun-19 01:42
After the resurrection...... 211 greengirl5 18-Jun-19 06:02
Re: After the resurrection...... 200 Eddie Larry 18-Jun-19 13:32
Well said 211 drrayeye 18-Jun-19 04:38
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 225 Darryl Sloan 06-Jun-19 10:05
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 207 Darryl Sloan 05-Jun-19 14:48
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 213 Poster Boy 05-Jun-19 15:37
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 214 Darryl Sloan 06-Jun-19 10:55
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 212 Poster Boy 06-Jun-19 15:38
au contraire 235 drrayeye 04-Jun-19 23:15
Re: au contraire 209 Darryl Sloan 05-Jun-19 15:05
Re: au contraire 238 drrayeye 05-Jun-19 19:56
Re: au contraire 218 Darryl Sloan 06-Jun-19 10:08
Re: au contraire 216 greengirl5 06-Jun-19 13:48
Re: au contraire 802 Poster Boy 06-Jun-19 15:31
Re: au contraire 222 drrayeye 06-Jun-19 16:11
Re: au contraire 226 Poster Boy 06-Jun-19 16:16
Consciousness 211 greengirl5 06-Jun-19 23:27
Our brains 222 greengirl5 07-Jun-19 00:56
Re: Consciousness 215 Darryl Sloan 13-Jun-19 11:50
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 244 Susan Doris 07-Jun-19 06:03
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 271 greengirl5 07-Jun-19 07:47
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 240 Susan Doris 07-Jun-19 07:53
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 226 greengirl5 07-Jun-19 23:59
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 226 Darryl Sloan 08-Jun-19 19:22
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 216 greengirl5 08-Jun-19 22:44
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 219 Susan Doris 09-Jun-19 05:23
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 228 SandyJesse 09-Jun-19 06:24
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 229 Susan Doris 09-Jun-19 07:19
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 215 greengirl5 09-Jun-19 09:12
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 226 Susan Doris 09-Jun-19 10:03
There it is again 208 greengirl5 09-Jun-19 12:07
Re: There it is again 224 Susan Doris 09-Jun-19 14:49
You know? 231 greengirl5 10-Jun-19 00:36
Re: You know? 212 Susan Doris 10-Jun-19 10:49
Re: You know? 214 greengirl5 10-Jun-19 13:47
Re: You know? 220 Eddie Larry 11-Jun-19 00:09
Re: You know? 194 Eddie Larry 11-Jun-19 21:43
Re: You know? 212 greengirl5 11-Jun-19 21:58
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 238 SandyJesse 10-Jun-19 06:38
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 238 greengirl5 10-Jun-19 09:48
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Re: How to make gold 202 Darryl Sloan 17-Jun-19 11:07
Re: How to make gold 235 Susan Doris 17-Jun-19 17:31
Re: How to make gold 193 Darryl Sloan 18-Jun-19 08:15
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Re: How to make gold 216 greengirl5 18-Jun-19 13:10
Re: How to make gold 217 Susan Doris 18-Jun-19 13:37
Re: How to make gold 204 greengirl5 18-Jun-19 23:30
Re: How to make gold 203 drrayeye 18-Jun-19 18:09
Re: How to make gold 202 greengirl5 18-Jun-19 23:14
Re: How to make gold 190 Darryl Sloan 20-Jun-19 11:44
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Re: The "para" is not going away, it is getting stronger. 206 Susan Doris 21-Jun-19 09:43
Re: The "para" is not going away, it is getting stronger. 188 greengirl5 21-Jun-19 12:18
Re: How to make gold 202 Susan Doris 21-Jun-19 06:18
Re: How to make gold 182 greengirl5 21-Jun-19 12:14
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Re: How to make gold 208 greengirl5 21-Jun-19 23:30
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Re: How to make gold 191 greengirl5 22-Jun-19 06:26
Re: How to make gold 188 Susan Doris 22-Jun-19 07:04
Re: How to make gold 199 greengirl5 22-Jun-19 23:49
Re: How to make gold 188 Darryl Sloan 24-Jun-19 18:25
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Great advice to scientists! 190 greengirl5 25-Jun-19 07:24
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