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Hi, GG.

"I don't think Jesus wanted to start a new church, contrary to what is said in the churches."

I was a Christian for about 18 years. These days, I don't have a very high opinion of Jesus. On the point you raise, it is recorded that he said, "I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it" (Matthew 16:18).

He was essentially a cult leader. He told people to follow him blindly without critical thinking, accepted their adoration, told them to sacrifice all their personal savings to the cult. Typical cult leader behaviour.

In keeping with the ignorance of his time, he interpreted epilepsy as demonic possession ("Even while the boy was coming, the demon threw him to the ground in a convulsion. But Jesus rebuked the impure spirit, healed the boy and gave him back to his father" [Luke 9:42]). He was hateful towards people who didn't want to listen to his teachings ("If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, leave that home or town and shake the dust off your feet" [Matthew 10:14]).

As for the alleged miracles, the most telling one is when he was hanging on the cross and darkness fell across the land for three hours in the afternoon ("From noon until three in the afternoon darkness came over all the land" [Matthew 27:45]). It's telling because it's not recorded by other historians. I would think that a widespread supernatural weather phenomenon would have merited mention outside of Christianity, if it actually happened. Obviously, it didn't - which calls into question all the recorded miracles.

Overall, I find Jesus to be a dangerous and egomaniacal character. Everything in the past two millennia that has been done in his name is, in part, his responsibility.

Darryl



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 06-Jun-19 11:33 by Darryl Sloan.

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Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 176 greengirl5 03-Jun-19 23:08
u-tube 165 greengirl5 04-Jun-19 03:54
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Re: u-tube 159 Darryl Sloan 04-Jun-19 19:02
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And who were the Mayans? 149 Poster Boy 07-Jun-19 15:41
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Re: Winter solstice 2012 137 greengirl5 07-Jun-19 23:51
Re: Who was Jesus? 145 Darryl Sloan 08-Jun-19 20:16
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Re: Questions 131 Darryl Sloan 14-Jun-19 09:13
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Consciousness and the perceptual environment 129 drrayeye 18-Jun-19 04:10
Re: Who was Jesus? 152 Poster Boy 08-Jun-19 21:11
Re: Who was Jesus? 141 Darryl Sloan 10-Jun-19 19:20
A scholarly alternative 144 drrayeye 07-Jun-19 06:46
Re: A scholarly alternative 146 Darryl Sloan 10-Jun-19 19:09
Re: A scholarly alternative 145 Eddie Larry 11-Jun-19 21:19
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Re: A scholarly alternative 158 Eddie Larry 11-Jun-19 22:21
Re: A scholarly alternative 141 SandyJesse 15-Jun-19 05:14
Re: A scholarly alternative 130 Darryl Sloan 17-Jun-19 11:23
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Re: A scholarly alternative 139 Darryl Sloan 13-Jun-19 11:58
Re: A scholarly alternative 151 Eddie Larry 13-Jun-19 14:04
Re: A scholarly alternative 131 Darryl Sloan 17-Jun-19 11:28
Re: A scholarly alternative 137 Eddie Larry 17-Jun-19 13:08
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Re: After the resurrection...... 129 Eddie Larry 18-Jun-19 13:32
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Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 151 Darryl Sloan 06-Jun-19 10:05
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 141 Darryl Sloan 05-Jun-19 14:48
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 143 Poster Boy 05-Jun-19 15:37
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 140 Darryl Sloan 06-Jun-19 10:55
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 141 Poster Boy 06-Jun-19 15:38
au contraire 165 drrayeye 04-Jun-19 23:15
Re: au contraire 146 Darryl Sloan 05-Jun-19 15:05
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Re: au contraire 150 Darryl Sloan 06-Jun-19 10:08
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Re: au contraire 147 drrayeye 06-Jun-19 16:11
Re: au contraire 150 Poster Boy 06-Jun-19 16:16
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Re: Consciousness 138 Darryl Sloan 13-Jun-19 11:50
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Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 151 greengirl5 07-Jun-19 23:59
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 152 Darryl Sloan 08-Jun-19 19:22
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Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 151 Susan Doris 09-Jun-19 05:23
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Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 144 greengirl5 09-Jun-19 09:12
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There it is again 137 greengirl5 09-Jun-19 12:07
Re: There it is again 150 Susan Doris 09-Jun-19 14:49
You know? 156 greengirl5 10-Jun-19 00:36
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Re: You know? 146 Eddie Larry 11-Jun-19 00:09
Re: You know? 128 Eddie Larry 11-Jun-19 21:43
Re: You know? 136 greengirl5 11-Jun-19 21:58
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Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 165 greengirl5 10-Jun-19 09:48
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