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Susan, I think NOW is very different from the past. We are close to disaster, big scale. Just think of the oceans being choked with rubbish. The deep oceans. Unbelievable.
I congratulate your country for going coal free now. I wish Australia would be so smart.
I remember in the 1960'es, late sixties, I said to an engineer at work. What would happen when the earth runs out of resources, not exactly thinking 50 years later. He laughed at me and said more or less it would not happen for a long, long time. What are the experts saying now?
The resources which will not run out for a long time are wind and solar. Not enough? Think of something! Don't leave all the decisions to the capitalists. They first of all have their own interest at heart. Here in Australia they also manage to pay very little tax. Working people do not escape that easily. But if the rich paid their share the whole country would benefit.
An Indian billionaire wants to dig up our coal and ruin the Great Barrier Reef and suck up our ground water. That is the worst capitalism case I can think of.

I must not get too political here, only say that in two weeks we have an important election. Fingers crossed!

GG.



Susan Doris Wrote:
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> I agree with all that Eddie says. Your views just
> will not work, although the sentiments are
> probably good. I recommend reading the chapter on
> Capitalism in 'Sapiens sapiens' by Yuval Noah
> Harari. I did not understand every word, but that
> chapter made more sense about capitalism than
> anything I'd heard before.
>
> It is all very well to have idealistic solutions,
> but it is the practical working solutions that are
> needed and, because the general human capacity to
> find ways of getting through problems has, in the
> long run, ensured our survival, I think the
> positive actions and ideas will be and do enough
> to carry our species forward.
>
> Susan
>
> Pegi Eyers Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Thank you for your questions and comments
> Eddie.
> > One could say there is a gap between the vision
> > and the reality, but I think the question is -
> how
> > can we go on being complicit with an economic
> > system (capitalism) that is on carbon overload,
> > and whose end goal is to destroy all life on
> > earth? There are countless solutions on the
> table
> > right now such as alternative economies,
> regional
> > economies, gift economies and other manifestos
> > such as The Leap, Drawdown and Green New Deal
> > which seek to keep carbon in the ground.
> >
> > We have to do something! My work, and my book
> > "Ancient Spirit Rising" is about finding
> > time-tested ways to change our thinking
> patternsb
> > and community actions by decolonizing and using
> > Indigenous societies as our model. It makes as
> > much sense as any other social-cultural path
> > happening right now! And if the apocalypse
> truly
> > does come to pass, survivors will probably be
> > living in small-scale bioregional groups once
> > again, sustainable and bonded to place, which
> is
> > the very definition of "Indigenous."
> >
> > As I say in my book "Ancient Spirit Rising" -
> > “Decolonize now, voluntarily, intentionally,
> > with full awareness and the selective use of
> > resources, OR, decolonize later under duress
> and
> > hardship, as a dramatic response to traumatic
> > conditions when the current economic paradigm
> > reaches the limits of its sustainability. But
> > decolonize you must, or fade away with the
> > memories of a lost civilization.”



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Subject Views Written By Posted
Ancient Spirit Modern Voice 3658 Pegi Eyers 07-May-19 22:16
Re: Ancient Spirit Modern Voice 328 Poster Boy 08-May-19 01:53
Re: Ancient Spirit Modern Voice 312 Pegi Eyers 08-May-19 16:59
Re: Ancient Spirit Modern Voice 320 Eddie Larry 08-May-19 21:15
Re: Ancient Spirit Modern Voice 303 Pegi Eyers 08-May-19 22:06
Re: Ancient Spirit Modern Voice 305 Eddie Larry 08-May-19 22:24
Decolonization... 259 Poster Boy 09-May-19 00:24
Re: Decolonization... 304 Pegi Eyers 09-May-19 06:08
Re: Decolonization... 330 Susan Doris 09-May-19 12:16
Re: Decolonization... 264 Pegi Eyers 09-May-19 15:13
Re: Decolonization... 266 Susan Doris 09-May-19 16:58
Re: Decolonization... 263 Pegi Eyers 09-May-19 17:36
Re: Decolonization... 248 Susan Doris 10-May-19 05:07
Misunderstanding? 254 greengirl5 10-May-19 07:35
Re: Misunderstanding? 273 Susan Doris 10-May-19 09:17
Re: Misunderstanding? 263 greengirl5 10-May-19 11:27
Re: Misunderstanding? 257 Susan Doris 10-May-19 13:32
Re: Decolonization... 252 Pegi Eyers 10-May-19 16:18
Re: Decolonization... 256 Susan Doris 11-May-19 05:57
Re: Decolonization... 250 Poster Boy 09-May-19 14:30
Re: Decolonization... 254 Pegi Eyers 09-May-19 15:36
Re: Decolonization... 243 Poster Boy 09-May-19 17:29
Re: Ancient Spirit Modern Voice 274 Susan Doris 09-May-19 05:09
Close to midnight before disaster 254 greengirl5 09-May-19 05:48
Re: Close to midnight before disaster 254 Susan Doris 09-May-19 12:26
Re: Ancient Spirit Modern Voice 284 greengirl5 09-May-19 05:58
Re: Ancient Spirit Modern Voice 263 Pegi Eyers 09-May-19 06:32
illusion of endless growth. 262 greengirl5 08-May-19 23:49
Re: illusion of endless growth. 271 greengirl5 09-May-19 00:09
Re: illusion of endless growth. 273 Pegi Eyers 09-May-19 04:25
Doomsday clock 257 greengirl5 09-May-19 06:46
Compounding Economic and Technological Growth. 263 Poster Boy 10-May-19 16:51
Re: Compounding Economic and Technological Growth. 260 Pegi Eyers 11-May-19 02:28
Huge subject 254 greengirl5 11-May-19 06:12
Re: Compounding Economic and Technological Growth. 253 Poster Boy 11-May-19 06:17
Re: Compounding Economic and Technological Growth. 246 greengirl5 11-May-19 06:49
Creating and incentivizing comprehensive Civil self defense 246 Poster Boy 11-May-19 16:08
Re: Creating and incentivizing comprehensive Civil self defense 256 greengirl5 11-May-19 22:04
Re: Creating and incentivizing comprehensive Civil self defense 258 Poster Boy 12-May-19 00:14
Re: Creating and incentivizing comprehensive Civil self defense 238 greengirl5 12-May-19 08:04
Re: Creating and incentivizing comprehensive Civil self defense 258 Susan Doris 12-May-19 04:55
Re: Creating and incentivizing comprehensive Civil self defense 260 greengirl5 12-May-19 08:07
The Little People! 263 Pegi Eyers 22-May-19 20:38
Re: The Little People! 238 greengirl5 23-May-19 23:26
Beacons of fires in the landscape 243 greengirl5 25-May-19 05:52
Re: The Little People! 237 Pegi Eyers 27-May-19 00:23
Irrational humanity? 252 greengirl5 26-May-19 06:08
Re: Irrational humanity? 475 Pegi Eyers 27-May-19 20:33


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