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Susan, I think NOW is very different from the past. We are close to disaster, big scale. Just think of the oceans being choked with rubbish. The deep oceans. Unbelievable.
I congratulate your country for going coal free now. I wish Australia would be so smart.
I remember in the 1960'es, late sixties, I said to an engineer at work. What would happen when the earth runs out of resources, not exactly thinking 50 years later. He laughed at me and said more or less it would not happen for a long, long time. What are the experts saying now?
The resources which will not run out for a long time are wind and solar. Not enough? Think of something! Don't leave all the decisions to the capitalists. They first of all have their own interest at heart. Here in Australia they also manage to pay very little tax. Working people do not escape that easily. But if the rich paid their share the whole country would benefit.
An Indian billionaire wants to dig up our coal and ruin the Great Barrier Reef and suck up our ground water. That is the worst capitalism case I can think of.

I must not get too political here, only say that in two weeks we have an important election. Fingers crossed!

GG.



Susan Doris Wrote:
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> I agree with all that Eddie says. Your views just
> will not work, although the sentiments are
> probably good. I recommend reading the chapter on
> Capitalism in 'Sapiens sapiens' by Yuval Noah
> Harari. I did not understand every word, but that
> chapter made more sense about capitalism than
> anything I'd heard before.
>
> It is all very well to have idealistic solutions,
> but it is the practical working solutions that are
> needed and, because the general human capacity to
> find ways of getting through problems has, in the
> long run, ensured our survival, I think the
> positive actions and ideas will be and do enough
> to carry our species forward.
>
> Susan
>
> Pegi Eyers Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Thank you for your questions and comments
> Eddie.
> > One could say there is a gap between the vision
> > and the reality, but I think the question is -
> how
> > can we go on being complicit with an economic
> > system (capitalism) that is on carbon overload,
> > and whose end goal is to destroy all life on
> > earth? There are countless solutions on the
> table
> > right now such as alternative economies,
> regional
> > economies, gift economies and other manifestos
> > such as The Leap, Drawdown and Green New Deal
> > which seek to keep carbon in the ground.
> >
> > We have to do something! My work, and my book
> > "Ancient Spirit Rising" is about finding
> > time-tested ways to change our thinking
> patternsb
> > and community actions by decolonizing and using
> > Indigenous societies as our model. It makes as
> > much sense as any other social-cultural path
> > happening right now! And if the apocalypse
> truly
> > does come to pass, survivors will probably be
> > living in small-scale bioregional groups once
> > again, sustainable and bonded to place, which
> is
> > the very definition of "Indigenous."
> >
> > As I say in my book "Ancient Spirit Rising" -
> > “Decolonize now, voluntarily, intentionally,
> > with full awareness and the selective use of
> > resources, OR, decolonize later under duress
> and
> > hardship, as a dramatic response to traumatic
> > conditions when the current economic paradigm
> > reaches the limits of its sustainability. But
> > decolonize you must, or fade away with the
> > memories of a lost civilization.”



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Ancient Spirit Modern Voice 3834 Pegi Eyers 07-May-19 22:16
Re: Ancient Spirit Modern Voice 390 PB Bytes 08-May-19 01:53
Re: Ancient Spirit Modern Voice 379 Pegi Eyers 08-May-19 16:59
Re: Ancient Spirit Modern Voice 382 Eddie Larry 08-May-19 21:15
Re: Ancient Spirit Modern Voice 364 Pegi Eyers 08-May-19 22:06
Re: Ancient Spirit Modern Voice 362 Eddie Larry 08-May-19 22:24
Decolonization... 316 PB Bytes 09-May-19 00:24
Re: Decolonization... 366 Pegi Eyers 09-May-19 06:08
Re: Decolonization... 394 Susan Doris 09-May-19 12:16
Re: Decolonization... 324 Pegi Eyers 09-May-19 15:13
Re: Decolonization... 326 Susan Doris 09-May-19 16:58
Re: Decolonization... 319 Pegi Eyers 09-May-19 17:36
Re: Decolonization... 306 Susan Doris 10-May-19 05:07
Misunderstanding? 311 greengirl5 10-May-19 07:35
Re: Misunderstanding? 333 Susan Doris 10-May-19 09:17
Re: Misunderstanding? 320 greengirl5 10-May-19 11:27
Re: Misunderstanding? 315 Susan Doris 10-May-19 13:32
Re: Decolonization... 308 Pegi Eyers 10-May-19 16:18
Re: Decolonization... 316 Susan Doris 11-May-19 05:57
Re: Decolonization... 305 PB Bytes 09-May-19 14:30
Re: Decolonization... 311 Pegi Eyers 09-May-19 15:36
Re: Decolonization... 301 PB Bytes 09-May-19 17:29
Re: Ancient Spirit Modern Voice 335 Susan Doris 09-May-19 05:09
Close to midnight before disaster 311 greengirl5 09-May-19 05:48
Re: Close to midnight before disaster 312 Susan Doris 09-May-19 12:26
Re: Ancient Spirit Modern Voice 351 greengirl5 09-May-19 05:58
Re: Ancient Spirit Modern Voice 320 Pegi Eyers 09-May-19 06:32
illusion of endless growth. 319 greengirl5 08-May-19 23:49
Re: illusion of endless growth. 329 greengirl5 09-May-19 00:09
Re: illusion of endless growth. 331 Pegi Eyers 09-May-19 04:25
Doomsday clock 320 greengirl5 09-May-19 06:46
Compounding Economic and Technological Growth. 323 PB Bytes 10-May-19 16:51
Re: Compounding Economic and Technological Growth. 318 Pegi Eyers 11-May-19 02:28
Huge subject 314 greengirl5 11-May-19 06:12
Re: Compounding Economic and Technological Growth. 313 PB Bytes 11-May-19 06:17
Re: Compounding Economic and Technological Growth. 305 greengirl5 11-May-19 06:49
Creating and incentivizing comprehensive Civil self defense 302 PB Bytes 11-May-19 16:08
Re: Creating and incentivizing comprehensive Civil self defense 312 greengirl5 11-May-19 22:04
Re: Creating and incentivizing comprehensive Civil self defense 321 PB Bytes 12-May-19 00:14
Re: Creating and incentivizing comprehensive Civil self defense 298 greengirl5 12-May-19 08:04
Re: Creating and incentivizing comprehensive Civil self defense 316 Susan Doris 12-May-19 04:55
Re: Creating and incentivizing comprehensive Civil self defense 319 greengirl5 12-May-19 08:07
The Little People! 322 Pegi Eyers 22-May-19 20:38
Re: The Little People! 297 greengirl5 23-May-19 23:26
Beacons of fires in the landscape 303 greengirl5 25-May-19 05:52
Re: The Little People! 303 Pegi Eyers 27-May-19 00:23
Irrational humanity? 311 greengirl5 26-May-19 06:08
Re: Irrational humanity? 577 Pegi Eyers 27-May-19 20:33


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