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Susan, I think NOW is very different from the past. We are close to disaster, big scale. Just think of the oceans being choked with rubbish. The deep oceans. Unbelievable.
I congratulate your country for going coal free now. I wish Australia would be so smart.
I remember in the 1960'es, late sixties, I said to an engineer at work. What would happen when the earth runs out of resources, not exactly thinking 50 years later. He laughed at me and said more or less it would not happen for a long, long time. What are the experts saying now?
The resources which will not run out for a long time are wind and solar. Not enough? Think of something! Don't leave all the decisions to the capitalists. They first of all have their own interest at heart. Here in Australia they also manage to pay very little tax. Working people do not escape that easily. But if the rich paid their share the whole country would benefit.
An Indian billionaire wants to dig up our coal and ruin the Great Barrier Reef and suck up our ground water. That is the worst capitalism case I can think of.

I must not get too political here, only say that in two weeks we have an important election. Fingers crossed!

GG.



Susan Doris Wrote:
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> I agree with all that Eddie says. Your views just
> will not work, although the sentiments are
> probably good. I recommend reading the chapter on
> Capitalism in 'Sapiens sapiens' by Yuval Noah
> Harari. I did not understand every word, but that
> chapter made more sense about capitalism than
> anything I'd heard before.
>
> It is all very well to have idealistic solutions,
> but it is the practical working solutions that are
> needed and, because the general human capacity to
> find ways of getting through problems has, in the
> long run, ensured our survival, I think the
> positive actions and ideas will be and do enough
> to carry our species forward.
>
> Susan
>
> Pegi Eyers Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Thank you for your questions and comments
> Eddie.
> > One could say there is a gap between the vision
> > and the reality, but I think the question is -
> how
> > can we go on being complicit with an economic
> > system (capitalism) that is on carbon overload,
> > and whose end goal is to destroy all life on
> > earth? There are countless solutions on the
> table
> > right now such as alternative economies,
> regional
> > economies, gift economies and other manifestos
> > such as The Leap, Drawdown and Green New Deal
> > which seek to keep carbon in the ground.
> >
> > We have to do something! My work, and my book
> > "Ancient Spirit Rising" is about finding
> > time-tested ways to change our thinking
> patternsb
> > and community actions by decolonizing and using
> > Indigenous societies as our model. It makes as
> > much sense as any other social-cultural path
> > happening right now! And if the apocalypse
> truly
> > does come to pass, survivors will probably be
> > living in small-scale bioregional groups once
> > again, sustainable and bonded to place, which
> is
> > the very definition of "Indigenous."
> >
> > As I say in my book "Ancient Spirit Rising" -
> > “Decolonize now, voluntarily, intentionally,
> > with full awareness and the selective use of
> > resources, OR, decolonize later under duress
> and
> > hardship, as a dramatic response to traumatic
> > conditions when the current economic paradigm
> > reaches the limits of its sustainability. But
> > decolonize you must, or fade away with the
> > memories of a lost civilization.”



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Ancient Spirit Modern Voice 4292 Pegi Eyers 07-May-19 22:16
Re: Ancient Spirit Modern Voice 562 PB Bytes 08-May-19 01:53
Re: Ancient Spirit Modern Voice 572 Pegi Eyers 08-May-19 16:59
Re: Ancient Spirit Modern Voice 564 Eddie Larry 08-May-19 21:15
Re: Ancient Spirit Modern Voice 535 Pegi Eyers 08-May-19 22:06
Re: Ancient Spirit Modern Voice 538 Eddie Larry 08-May-19 22:24
Decolonization... 492 PB Bytes 09-May-19 00:24
Re: Decolonization... 543 Pegi Eyers 09-May-19 06:08
Re: Decolonization... 574 Susan Doris 09-May-19 12:16
Re: Decolonization... 491 Pegi Eyers 09-May-19 15:13
Re: Decolonization... 503 Susan Doris 09-May-19 16:58
Re: Decolonization... 503 Pegi Eyers 09-May-19 17:36
Re: Decolonization... 473 Susan Doris 10-May-19 05:07
Misunderstanding? 491 greengirl5 10-May-19 07:35
Re: Misunderstanding? 519 Susan Doris 10-May-19 09:17
Re: Misunderstanding? 500 greengirl5 10-May-19 11:27
Re: Misunderstanding? 497 Susan Doris 10-May-19 13:32
Re: Decolonization... 490 Pegi Eyers 10-May-19 16:18
Re: Decolonization... 499 Susan Doris 11-May-19 05:57
Re: Decolonization... 478 PB Bytes 09-May-19 14:30
Re: Decolonization... 477 Pegi Eyers 09-May-19 15:36
Re: Decolonization... 479 PB Bytes 09-May-19 17:29
Re: Ancient Spirit Modern Voice 514 Susan Doris 09-May-19 05:09
Close to midnight before disaster 484 greengirl5 09-May-19 05:48
Re: Close to midnight before disaster 482 Susan Doris 09-May-19 12:26
Re: Ancient Spirit Modern Voice 538 greengirl5 09-May-19 05:58
Re: Ancient Spirit Modern Voice 500 Pegi Eyers 09-May-19 06:32
illusion of endless growth. 489 greengirl5 08-May-19 23:49
Re: illusion of endless growth. 501 greengirl5 09-May-19 00:09
Re: illusion of endless growth. 508 Pegi Eyers 09-May-19 04:25
Doomsday clock 500 greengirl5 09-May-19 06:46
Compounding Economic and Technological Growth. 502 PB Bytes 10-May-19 16:51
Re: Compounding Economic and Technological Growth. 497 Pegi Eyers 11-May-19 02:28
Huge subject 502 greengirl5 11-May-19 06:12
Re: Compounding Economic and Technological Growth. 490 PB Bytes 11-May-19 06:17
Re: Compounding Economic and Technological Growth. 486 greengirl5 11-May-19 06:49
Creating and incentivizing comprehensive Civil self defense 475 PB Bytes 11-May-19 16:08
Re: Creating and incentivizing comprehensive Civil self defense 490 greengirl5 11-May-19 22:04
Re: Creating and incentivizing comprehensive Civil self defense 498 PB Bytes 12-May-19 00:14
Re: Creating and incentivizing comprehensive Civil self defense 468 greengirl5 12-May-19 08:04
Re: Creating and incentivizing comprehensive Civil self defense 485 Susan Doris 12-May-19 04:55
Re: Creating and incentivizing comprehensive Civil self defense 502 greengirl5 12-May-19 08:07
The Little People! 504 Pegi Eyers 22-May-19 20:38
Re: The Little People! 466 greengirl5 23-May-19 23:26
Beacons of fires in the landscape 471 greengirl5 25-May-19 05:52
Re: The Little People! 484 Pegi Eyers 27-May-19 00:23
Irrational humanity? 483 greengirl5 26-May-19 06:08
Re: Irrational humanity? 834 Pegi Eyers 27-May-19 20:33


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