Wrong! I know a great deal about the spiritual side of life. One of the things I have learnt is that the word 'spiritual' has just about as many different interpretations as there are people!Quote
But Susan, you know so little about spiritual things.
I have had as much experience as anyone of thinking something, hoping that it will come to pass, wishing fervently that it will, also of praying, but my siblings and I were taught that 'God helps those who help themselves' and not to expect God to do it. That is one good reason why I never relied on prayer and rightly so, and at an early age worked out that I had to sort things out myself.Quote
You have no experiences with prayers being answered,
I believed that God had a plan for each and every one, but this idea was faint and, the older I got, the less and less did it have any logic at all.
I'm not going to bother re-explaining the first two and the third point, about souls, is simple. Every human being without exception has an aspect of character/personality which has come to be labelled 'soul' but anyone with even a simple knowledge of animal biology knows that there is no thing which can be separated called a soul. Even if you know that, why would you want to believe there is something called a 'soul'? If it is not something physical, which it certainly is not, you can only imagine that it is and since zero useful evidence exists for any such thing, why not accept that it is a human label for an aspect of each of us, instead of trying to give it a separate existence?Quote
you once went to a dodgy fortune teller and you had a seance or whatever it was with some giggling friends, and now you know for sure there is no God and neither do you nor anybody else have a soul.
Well, there isn't a 'point' of living. We live because we are part of an unbroken line of life and I for one am absolutely pleased and delighted that I have had a life. All the points or reasons for living or doing are humanly thought of and created and, as part of that unbroken line of life, if we have had children who have children in turn, then we have been part of it. And the species continues to survive. And that's excellent.Quote
And when we are dead it is forever (so what is the point of having lived).
That's rubbish. I have a good brain and I use it!Quote
You take the word of that famous (infamous?) stage magician over a host of distinguished modern scientists.
Certainly not. I only distrust people who have shown themselves to lie and deceive deliberately and who;, therefore, are likely to do so again. Otherwise I have a much more benign view of all than you give me credit for.Quote
You distrust anybody who tells you about experiences outside the materialistic old science, because you have decided it cannot be, unless they come up with all sorts of proofs,
If you think that, then you really have not read my posts over the years very well!Quote
and if books are being pointed out to you, you cannot read them, but happily reject them out of hand.
and Unread, understandable, but also rejected because the sceptical societies say they know better.
No, it is much simpler than that. I enjoy the discussions on message boards because it is something I can take part in at home since I am no longer able to do so locally – since there are no suitable groups – and nationally because of the difficulties involved.Quote
You enjoy a banter on the boards, and it is good you can still take part in that. There is nothing else I can think of to add here.
With that, I heartily agree!Quote
Maybe just a personal note about our weather. Yesterday was 31°C (85°F) and our electricity was cut off all day, over 8 hours, because of pole repair works. It meant no running water, only in several buckets, and it meant no fans. All windows open was no use. Fires in the centre of Tasmania with people evacuated. Better day today forecast, and the electricity is back. I have edited the list of things to take (lots!) if fire comes here. Makes me feel better, but will I panic instead of? Appealing to higher powers - certainly, but if it has to happen it will. I hope you believe in climate change? There should be enough signs of it by now everywhere, even David Attenborough believes it, but our government doesn't! Pathological disbelievers or self-centred numb-skulls.