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Hi Susan

I think what people move towards when it comes to "shamanism," is a deeper understanding of reality's plasticity.

The Western world is mired in a 17th-century conception of reality, based on Cartesian and Newtonian thinking, that this reality is all there is, with its laws and the absolute reality of things, around which these laws are based.

That's all well and good, yet in the last few centuries we have also learned that this "reality" is 99.9999999 percent empty space. our discovery of the subatomic realm demonstrated, absolutely, that Cartesian-Newtonian paradigms are NOT absolute. Then in the early 20th century, a Nobel prize was awarded based on the finding that we do, in fact, affect reality through our perception.

I have found, based on direct experience, that this reality is an extension of Mind, and this is what I was getting at when I replied to the very busy Evelyn regarding Eastern doctrines and what I called the 'Void." To shamanism then, do these spirits have an objective reality of their own, in which case they are an extension Mind? Or, are they an extension of 'mind'?

I believe the former interpretation, and that the only way you can connect with these spirits is by getting down to a level where 17th-century paradigms are seen to be non-absolute, and part of a much more diversified reality. In other words Susan, one's consciousness plays a defining role.

I suspect that shamen are connecting with real beings in realms that seem "imaginary" from the 17th-century point of view, where things are seen to exclusively define what is real. If this realm and others are projections of Mind, then they are equally imaginary in one sense. And since, as modern science affirms, this realm is virtually empty space AND that perception influences outcomes on at least one level..... I see plenty of room for authentic interaction with beings in other realms.

Now, of course you believe none of this. And you may be assured that I and others will give you a very hard time when we're all on the other side!

I'm teasing of course. In the meanwhile, keep up the dancing!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 19-Jan-19 20:14 by Poster Boy.

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Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 3077 Susan Doris 08-Jan-19 16:21
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Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 258 Susan Doris 10-Jan-19 19:45
Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 255 cloister 10-Jan-19 20:11
Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 237 Susan Doris 11-Jan-19 14:56
Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 245 cloister 11-Jan-19 16:09
Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 227 Susan Doris 11-Jan-19 19:35
Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 237 cloister 11-Jan-19 19:56
Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 256 EvelynRysdyk 11-Jan-19 00:40
Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 268 greengirl5 11-Jan-19 08:59
Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 245 Susan Doris 11-Jan-19 13:02
Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 237 Susan Doris 11-Jan-19 13:27
Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 251 EvelynRysdyk 11-Jan-19 20:33
Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 214 Susan Doris 18-Jan-19 14:06
Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 244 greengirl5 11-Jan-19 23:16
Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 230 Susan Doris 12-Jan-19 06:15
Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 225 greengirl5 12-Jan-19 12:24
Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 233 Susan Doris 12-Jan-19 13:07
Please explain the word ASPECT in your quote. 225 Itatw70s 17-Jan-19 20:39
Re: Please explain the word ASPECT in your quote. 222 Susan Doris 18-Jan-19 14:48
Re: Please explain the word ASPECT in your quote. 207 Itatw70s 21-Jan-19 02:17
Re: Please explain the word ASPECT in your quote. 201 Susan Doris 21-Jan-19 06:26
Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 235 Susan Doris 12-Jan-19 13:19
Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 241 EvelynRysdyk 12-Jan-19 17:04
Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 284 Susan Doris 12-Jan-19 18:36
Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 220 Susan Doris 18-Jan-19 15:01
Red Herrings 229 drrayeye 17-Jan-19 19:05
Re: Red Herrings 233 Itatw70s 17-Jan-19 23:47
Re: Red Herrings 230 Susan Doris 18-Jan-19 09:00
Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 224 Susan Doris 19-Jan-19 12:42
Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 222 EvelynRysdyk 19-Jan-19 17:23
Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 213 Susan Doris 20-Jan-19 10:27
Spirit 212 greengirl5 20-Jan-19 20:57
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Re: Spirit 203 Susan Doris 23-Jan-19 10:25
Re: Spirit 405 greengirl5 23-Jan-19 12:10
Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 222 Poster Boy 19-Jan-19 18:16
Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 205 EvelynRysdyk 20-Jan-19 00:10
Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 213 Poster Boy 20-Jan-19 00:39
Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 209 Susan Doris 20-Jan-19 06:28
Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 207 Susan Doris 20-Jan-19 06:19
Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 210 greengirl5 20-Jan-19 09:31
Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 210 Susan Doris 20-Jan-19 10:45
Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 209 greengirl5 20-Jan-19 20:42
Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 213 Poster Boy 20-Jan-19 17:02
And the intellectual marathon continues, day after day, hour after hour, moment to moment.... 222 Itatw70s 22-Jan-19 02:04
Re: And the intellectual marathon continues, day after day, hour after hour, moment to moment.... 214 Susan Doris 22-Jan-19 06:08


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