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I doubt any spiritual method would pass such a test for that is not its purpose.
Do you know of any spiritual method? I don't think so - because the word 'spiritual' has, as I mentioned before I think, as many definitions as there are people using the word.
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Shamanism is a way to understand one's self and the wider world in a spiritual context
I would be interested to hear you elaborate on this idea of a spiritual context. I understand myself well, and that is because of the life and experiences I have had. Anything involving the supernatural or magic rituals, or encouraging people to think they are in some other dimension or something through a trance, etc is a barrier to knowledge.
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that allows the practitioner to interact (I believe that you would say perceive to interact) with non-human species, and the environment.
Are you including any non-observable - and therefore undetectable in any way - supernatural ideas here?
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...This is possible as everything is thought of as alive and sentient. It is a method that has served humankind for tens of thousands of years as a way to care for themselves AND the world around them in a much more holistic manner than our current paradigm.
I think that is a rather too sentimental, rose-tinted-specs view, but Yes, I see what you mean. I am at present reading a book called 'Seven Elements which changed the World' by John brown (ex top BP Exec and engineer). He talks about the dangers of the carbon footprint and offers some practical ways forward.
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For me, and many others, that is enough to give it value.
It may well give people personal enjoyment and satisfaction, but I think it is totally impractical in reality!

Can you give one example of where a shaman or shamanism has done something which has actually moved life, or the world, or the environment forward, i.e. because of the shamanism?

Susan

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Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 229 Susan Doris 10-Jan-19 19:45
Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 232 cloister 10-Jan-19 20:11
Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 212 Susan Doris 11-Jan-19 14:56
Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 221 cloister 11-Jan-19 16:09
Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 206 Susan Doris 11-Jan-19 19:35
Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 208 cloister 11-Jan-19 19:56
Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 231 EvelynRysdyk 11-Jan-19 00:40
Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 236 greengirl5 11-Jan-19 08:59
Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 217 Susan Doris 11-Jan-19 13:02
Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 212 Susan Doris 11-Jan-19 13:27
Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 223 EvelynRysdyk 11-Jan-19 20:33
Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 188 Susan Doris 18-Jan-19 14:06
Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 216 greengirl5 11-Jan-19 23:16
Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 204 Susan Doris 12-Jan-19 06:15
Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 199 greengirl5 12-Jan-19 12:24
Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 207 Susan Doris 12-Jan-19 13:07
Please explain the word ASPECT in your quote. 197 Itatw70s 17-Jan-19 20:39
Re: Please explain the word ASPECT in your quote. 193 Susan Doris 18-Jan-19 14:48
Re: Please explain the word ASPECT in your quote. 184 Itatw70s 21-Jan-19 02:17
Re: Please explain the word ASPECT in your quote. 178 Susan Doris 21-Jan-19 06:26
Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 208 Susan Doris 12-Jan-19 13:19
Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 216 EvelynRysdyk 12-Jan-19 17:04
Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 256 Susan Doris 12-Jan-19 18:36
Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 197 Susan Doris 18-Jan-19 15:01
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Re: Red Herrings 198 Susan Doris 18-Jan-19 09:00
Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 193 Susan Doris 19-Jan-19 12:42
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Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 188 Susan Doris 20-Jan-19 10:27
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Re: Spirit 179 Susan Doris 23-Jan-19 10:25
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Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 200 Poster Boy 19-Jan-19 18:16
Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 185 EvelynRysdyk 20-Jan-19 00:10
Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 189 Poster Boy 20-Jan-19 00:39
Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 189 Susan Doris 20-Jan-19 06:28
Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 186 Susan Doris 20-Jan-19 06:19
Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 186 greengirl5 20-Jan-19 09:31
Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 187 Susan Doris 20-Jan-19 10:45
Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 188 greengirl5 20-Jan-19 20:42
Re: the article by Evelyn rysdyk 192 Poster Boy 20-Jan-19 17:02
And the intellectual marathon continues, day after day, hour after hour, moment to moment.... 196 Itatw70s 22-Jan-19 02:04
Re: And the intellectual marathon continues, day after day, hour after hour, moment to moment.... 191 Susan Doris 22-Jan-19 06:08


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