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“Shanidar sounds so beautiful, don't you think!”

Yes, I do. Sha is that of “shaman”. It has two founding symbols with the same phonetic value, and both with the meaning of “heart” which is unusual. Look for this one at CA (ŠA) on ePSD. Also look at the etymology of “shaman”. It leads us into your preferred territories, but no-one really knows.

The Shamans take the first syllable of their name from the symbol that is also known phonetically as ARA. This is the origin of the constellation of the same name and its understanding as altar of the Greek gods, of course. It has the form of the brewing pot with steam rising as does the ancient cosmic altar. The origin of the symbol has been hidden. We must have our “gods”! But there is no ambiguity in this one. The Greek Altar in the sky stems from the brewing pot of the shaman. And shamanism is and has always been at the heart of the matter.

I think we agree - not on everything - but on quite a lot.

Madeleine

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Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? .. Mod help, please .. 640 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:45
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Re: Yeti ... are actual, have rather odd eyes and are fast and very capable 581 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:26
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