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“Shanidar sounds so beautiful, don't you think!”

Yes, I do. Sha is that of “shaman”. It has two founding symbols with the same phonetic value, and both with the meaning of “heart” which is unusual. Look for this one at CA (ŠA) on ePSD. Also look at the etymology of “shaman”. It leads us into your preferred territories, but no-one really knows.

The Shamans take the first syllable of their name from the symbol that is also known phonetically as ARA. This is the origin of the constellation of the same name and its understanding as altar of the Greek gods, of course. It has the form of the brewing pot with steam rising as does the ancient cosmic altar. The origin of the symbol has been hidden. We must have our “gods”! But there is no ambiguity in this one. The Greek Altar in the sky stems from the brewing pot of the shaman. And shamanism is and has always been at the heart of the matter.

I think we agree - not on everything - but on quite a lot.

Madeleine

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The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 3178 Andrew Collins Author 03-Jul-18 17:29
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 435 SallyA 04-Jul-18 19:44
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 419 Andrew Collins Author 04-Jul-18 21:51
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 458 michael seabrook 04-Jul-18 21:56
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 415 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:28
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Re: Paranormalist 356 greengirl5 07-Jul-18 23:36
Re: Paranormalist 345 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:44
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 383 michael seabrook 06-Jul-18 20:55
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 390 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 22:59
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 338 michael seabrook 06-Jul-18 23:13
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 342 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:25
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 413 SallyA 05-Jul-18 00:57
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? .. Mod help, please .. 419 SallyA 05-Jul-18 01:27
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? .. Mod help, please .. 396 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:45
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 382 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:42
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Re: More snakes 398 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:54
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Re: More snakes 363 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:11
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Re: More snakes 352 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:47
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Re: Yeti ... are actual, have rather odd eyes and are fast and very capable 349 SallyA 06-Jul-18 02:49
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Re: Yeti ... are actual, have rather odd eyes and are fast and very capable 347 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:26
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