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Thank you, Madeleine. All noted. The link between HU-A or A-HU and both "water bird" and the Milky Way is intriguing. It could well be that you have uncovered a proto-Sumerian connection between waterbirds and the Milky Way of a type that is common in northern Europe and North Asia, and at least dates back to the Upper Palaeolithic epoch.

My personal belief, which is difficult to prove, is that the Tower of Babel and the confusion of the languages relates not to Mesopotamia but to a much earlier tradition associated with the World Mountain or Cosmic Mountain in the centre of the world, and the divergence of languages from a common root. This is something that occurred in southern Siberia and Mongolia and involved primary languages such as Tungus, Mongolian and Turkic. The theory is not popular, I know, but I believe there is something in it.

Look beyond Mesopotamia for your answers, Madeleine.

Remember also that as early as 1874 French scholar Charles Lenormant wrote extensively about the overlaps between Akkadian, Uralic and also Finno-Ugric base languages.

I have no idea on the origins of the toponym Zawi Chemi Shanidar. By the term Shanidar sounds so beautiful, don't you think!

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The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 3319 Andrew Collins Author 03-Jul-18 17:29
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 494 SallyA 04-Jul-18 19:44
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Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 519 michael seabrook 04-Jul-18 21:56
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 470 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:28
Paranormalist 457 greengirl5 06-Jul-18 00:04
Re: Paranormalist 441 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 22:52
Re: Paranormalist 407 greengirl5 07-Jul-18 23:36
Re: Paranormalist 400 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:44
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 444 michael seabrook 06-Jul-18 20:55
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 435 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 22:59
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 382 michael seabrook 06-Jul-18 23:13
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 398 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:25
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 468 SallyA 05-Jul-18 00:57
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? .. Mod help, please .. 473 SallyA 05-Jul-18 01:27
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? .. Mod help, please .. 443 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:45
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 435 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:42
More snakes 629 Robert Jameson 05-Jul-18 06:26
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Re: More snakes 409 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:11
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Re: the pyramids of Giza, built, how? 397 SallyA 08-Jul-18 23:48
Re: the pyramids of Giza, built, how? 401 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:40
Re: More snakes 388 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:30
Sperm cells and microscopes 433 greengirl5 05-Jul-18 23:41
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" from the Dream Time, her two companions, and her master . . 418 SallyA 06-Jul-18 02:38
Re: Yeti ... are actual, have rather odd eyes and are fast and very capable 397 SallyA 06-Jul-18 02:49
Re: Yeti ... source page: 393 SallyA 06-Jul-18 03:05
Re: Yeti ... source page: 402 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:24
Re: Yeti ... are actual, have rather odd eyes and are fast and very capable 389 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:26
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" from the Dream Time, her two companions, and her master . . 419 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:23
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Re: O.T., . . Looking for the BIG picture, the temporal ghestalts . . 427 SallyA 17-Jul-18 19:12
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Yes, how? 374 greengirl5 09-Jul-18 01:48
Re: Yes, how? 384 Robert Jameson 09-Jul-18 03:17
Re: Yes, how? 381 greengirl5 09-Jul-18 05:35
Re: Yes, how? 409 Robert Jameson 09-Jul-18 12:27
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 383 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:44
Crick, Watson and accuracy . . thank you, amended . . . 374 SallyA 11-Jul-18 16:05
Re: Crick, Watson and accuracy . . thank you, amended . . . 367 Andrew Collins Author 11-Jul-18 17:35
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Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 385 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:56
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 442 drrayeye 05-Jul-18 06:35
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 430 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:59
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Re: The Denisovan Legacy: Aesir & Vanir, and . . . 381 SallyA 09-Jul-18 00:32
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Re: The Denisovan Legacy: Agree 100%, . . Odin from general vicinity of Anatolia . . NM 372 SallyA 10-Jul-18 15:31
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: Agree 100%, . . Odin from general vicinity of Anatolia . . NM 388 Andrew Collins Author 11-Jul-18 17:41
Balanced speculation 384 drrayeye 06-Jul-18 18:38
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The Idigna Bird and Kal 397 MDaines 08-Jul-18 16:49
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Kailasa and swans 407 drew 09-Jul-18 02:18
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Re: Kailasa . . pardon, rebounding, and centering . . 394 SallyA 09-Jul-18 18:38
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