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Thank you, Madeleine. All noted. The link between HU-A or A-HU and both "water bird" and the Milky Way is intriguing. It could well be that you have uncovered a proto-Sumerian connection between waterbirds and the Milky Way of a type that is common in northern Europe and North Asia, and at least dates back to the Upper Palaeolithic epoch.

My personal belief, which is difficult to prove, is that the Tower of Babel and the confusion of the languages relates not to Mesopotamia but to a much earlier tradition associated with the World Mountain or Cosmic Mountain in the centre of the world, and the divergence of languages from a common root. This is something that occurred in southern Siberia and Mongolia and involved primary languages such as Tungus, Mongolian and Turkic. The theory is not popular, I know, but I believe there is something in it.

Look beyond Mesopotamia for your answers, Madeleine.

Remember also that as early as 1874 French scholar Charles Lenormant wrote extensively about the overlaps between Akkadian, Uralic and also Finno-Ugric base languages.

I have no idea on the origins of the toponym Zawi Chemi Shanidar. By the term Shanidar sounds so beautiful, don't you think!

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The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 2449 Andrew Collins Author 03-Jul-18 17:29
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 293 SallyA 04-Jul-18 19:44
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Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 273 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:28
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Re: Paranormalist 212 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:44
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 243 michael seabrook 06-Jul-18 20:55
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 246 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 22:59
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 211 michael seabrook 06-Jul-18 23:13
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 215 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:25
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 274 SallyA 05-Jul-18 00:57
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? .. Mod help, please .. 264 SallyA 05-Jul-18 01:27
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? .. Mod help, please .. 254 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:45
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 250 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:42
More snakes 337 Robert Jameson 05-Jul-18 06:26
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Sperm cells and microscopes 247 greengirl5 05-Jul-18 23:41
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" from the Dream Time, her two companions, and her master . . 221 SallyA 06-Jul-18 02:38
Re: Yeti ... are actual, have rather odd eyes and are fast and very capable 217 SallyA 06-Jul-18 02:49
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Re: Yeti ... are actual, have rather odd eyes and are fast and very capable 213 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:26
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" from the Dream Time, her two companions, and her master . . 229 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:23
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Re: O.T., . . Looking for the BIG picture, the temporal ghestalts . . 230 SallyA 17-Jul-18 19:12
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Yes, how? 198 greengirl5 09-Jul-18 01:48
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Crick, Watson and accuracy . . thank you, amended . . . 189 SallyA 11-Jul-18 16:05
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Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 249 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:59
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Re: The Denisovan Legacy: Aesir & Vanir, and . . . 220 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:37
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: Agree 100%, . . Odin from general vicinity of Anatolia . . NM 193 SallyA 10-Jul-18 15:31
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