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Thank you, Madeleine. All noted. The link between HU-A or A-HU and both "water bird" and the Milky Way is intriguing. It could well be that you have uncovered a proto-Sumerian connection between waterbirds and the Milky Way of a type that is common in northern Europe and North Asia, and at least dates back to the Upper Palaeolithic epoch.

My personal belief, which is difficult to prove, is that the Tower of Babel and the confusion of the languages relates not to Mesopotamia but to a much earlier tradition associated with the World Mountain or Cosmic Mountain in the centre of the world, and the divergence of languages from a common root. This is something that occurred in southern Siberia and Mongolia and involved primary languages such as Tungus, Mongolian and Turkic. The theory is not popular, I know, but I believe there is something in it.

Look beyond Mesopotamia for your answers, Madeleine.

Remember also that as early as 1874 French scholar Charles Lenormant wrote extensively about the overlaps between Akkadian, Uralic and also Finno-Ugric base languages.

I have no idea on the origins of the toponym Zawi Chemi Shanidar. By the term Shanidar sounds so beautiful, don't you think!

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The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 3198 Andrew Collins Author 03-Jul-18 17:29
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 447 SallyA 04-Jul-18 19:44
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 428 Andrew Collins Author 04-Jul-18 21:51
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 472 michael seabrook 04-Jul-18 21:56
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 428 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:28
Paranormalist 420 greengirl5 06-Jul-18 00:04
Re: Paranormalist 400 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 22:52
Re: Paranormalist 364 greengirl5 07-Jul-18 23:36
Re: Paranormalist 355 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:44
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 392 michael seabrook 06-Jul-18 20:55
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 399 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 22:59
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 346 michael seabrook 06-Jul-18 23:13
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 353 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:25
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 425 SallyA 05-Jul-18 00:57
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? .. Mod help, please .. 428 SallyA 05-Jul-18 01:27
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? .. Mod help, please .. 406 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:45
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 392 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:42
More snakes 563 Robert Jameson 05-Jul-18 06:26
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Re: the pyramids of Giza, built, how? 354 SallyA 08-Jul-18 23:48
Re: the pyramids of Giza, built, how? 358 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:40
Re: More snakes 349 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:30
Sperm cells and microscopes 381 greengirl5 05-Jul-18 23:41
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" from the Dream Time, her two companions, and her master . . 372 SallyA 06-Jul-18 02:38
Re: Yeti ... are actual, have rather odd eyes and are fast and very capable 359 SallyA 06-Jul-18 02:49
Re: Yeti ... source page: 358 SallyA 06-Jul-18 03:05
Re: Yeti ... source page: 358 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:24
Re: Yeti ... are actual, have rather odd eyes and are fast and very capable 355 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:26
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" from the Dream Time, her two companions, and her master . . 376 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:23
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Re: O.T., . . Looking for the BIG picture, the temporal ghestalts . . 389 SallyA 17-Jul-18 19:12
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Yes, how? 339 greengirl5 09-Jul-18 01:48
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Crick, Watson and accuracy . . thank you, amended . . . 330 SallyA 11-Jul-18 16:05
Re: Crick, Watson and accuracy . . thank you, amended . . . 331 Andrew Collins Author 11-Jul-18 17:35
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Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 398 drrayeye 05-Jul-18 06:35
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 388 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:59
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Re: The Denisovan Legacy: Aesir & Vanir, and . . . 339 SallyA 09-Jul-18 00:32
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: Aesir & Vanir, and . . . 373 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:37
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: Agree 100%, . . Odin from general vicinity of Anatolia . . NM 332 SallyA 10-Jul-18 15:31
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: Agree 100%, . . Odin from general vicinity of Anatolia . . NM 344 Andrew Collins Author 11-Jul-18 17:41
Balanced speculation 347 drrayeye 06-Jul-18 18:38
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The Idigna Bird and Kal 363 MDaines 08-Jul-18 16:49
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Re: Kailasa . . pardon, rebounding, and centering . . 350 SallyA 09-Jul-18 18:38
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