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Hi Andrew,
No, I didn’t know about Cepheus or the idea that those four symbols were those of a demon. This is certainly post-Sumerian, at least my notion of Sumer which is prior to the start of the cuneiform period. It becomes confusing because we’re obliged to use these all-encompassing names. As I said, my only speciality is the original monosyllabic language. This has led me, through a long text translation, to a pagan world, a very human one, which is not isolated from the stuff we know already from elsewhere - as academic or Sitchin’s texts would have it. It’s a story that encompasses Egypt with the feather of truth, mixing Odysseus with Pan tied to the ship’s mast, and tells the Genesis stories of the destruction of the tower, of Noah and the ark before the bible version. Along the way, it gives us the origins of the Greek myths and the etymology of countless (PIE) words used today. There are no borders. Only the framework of time. The tablets date to 2500 BC but it’s already just repetition. Most important of all, the world before Babel was steeped in shamanism, in questions of duality, and both Taoism and Buddhism take their sources there. It’s all in the texts. It’s all been suppressed.

You’re right to see that the birds could be of completely different types. My preference for the overall and enduring title of the bird associated with shamanism would be HU-A. In my text, it was written A-HU, water and bird, the waterbird, but there are no fast and hard rules. And it is most certainly to be linked to the Milky Way.

The same possibility of inverted syllables applies to Gobekli. I want to weep when I see that the tourism sites are now calling it “Potbelly Hill” without mention of its name. Like calling Big Ben the “old tower”. We discover a site many thousands of years old, and then toss aside its equally ancient name. That’s called throwing the baby out with the bath water. I’m working on restitution.

I’m sure you know far more about the constellations than me. My knowledge has been eclectic from the start of this. I work outwards from the symbols. They resonate with ships, sailors, masts and rigging so no surprise that the sky is in there too. If you have names you want to explore further, let me know. UD KA DUH A doesn’t help: sun/day/dry, mouth/word/voice, to spread/chest, flow/water. Nothing to be made of it without context, I’m afraid; but the context of extreme weather would create enemies and perhaps monsters.

You have gone way back in time, Andrew. The stories are confused unless you look for them before Babel but analysing the names might still be of use. You mention Chemi. That might be one, right there! Look for CEM on ePSD. The ‘C’ gives the equivalent sound to Š. Do you have any trace of the etymology? I wouldn't like to be caught looking for ancient history in Denis!

Take care,
Madeleine

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The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 2454 Andrew Collins Author 03-Jul-18 17:29
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 296 SallyA 04-Jul-18 19:44
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 284 Andrew Collins Author 04-Jul-18 21:51
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 305 michael seabrook 04-Jul-18 21:56
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 274 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:28
Paranormalist 273 greengirl5 06-Jul-18 00:04
Re: Paranormalist 256 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 22:52
Re: Paranormalist 229 greengirl5 07-Jul-18 23:36
Re: Paranormalist 215 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:44
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 244 michael seabrook 06-Jul-18 20:55
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 248 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 22:59
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 212 michael seabrook 06-Jul-18 23:13
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 217 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:25
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 276 SallyA 05-Jul-18 00:57
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? .. Mod help, please .. 267 SallyA 05-Jul-18 01:27
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? .. Mod help, please .. 256 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:45
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 252 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:42
More snakes 340 Robert Jameson 05-Jul-18 06:26
Re: More snakes 261 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:54
Re: More snakes 228 Robert Jameson 06-Jul-18 13:59
Re: More snakes 229 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:11
Re: More snakes 215 drrayeye 07-Jul-18 00:29
Re: More snakes 218 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:47
Re: More snakes 204 Robert Jameson 08-Jul-18 17:07
Re: the pyramids of Giza, built, how? 219 SallyA 08-Jul-18 23:48
Re: the pyramids of Giza, built, how? 216 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:40
Re: More snakes 211 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:30
Sperm cells and microscopes 249 greengirl5 05-Jul-18 23:41
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" from the Dream Time, her two companions, and her master . . 222 SallyA 06-Jul-18 02:38
Re: Yeti ... are actual, have rather odd eyes and are fast and very capable 218 SallyA 06-Jul-18 02:49
Re: Yeti ... source page: 224 SallyA 06-Jul-18 03:05
Re: Yeti ... source page: 213 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:24
Re: Yeti ... are actual, have rather odd eyes and are fast and very capable 215 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:26
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" from the Dream Time, her two companions, and her master . . 230 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:23
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" ... images of House of Sokar . . 3 serpents as on Gobekli pillar: 219 SallyA 17-Jul-18 18:14
Re: O.T., . . Looking for the BIG picture, the temporal ghestalts . . 234 SallyA 17-Jul-18 19:12
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" ... images of House of Sokar . . 3 serpents as on Gobekli pillar: 199 Andrew Collins Author 23-Jul-18 13:27
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" ... images of House of Sokar . . 3 serpents as on Gobekli pillar: 296 SallyA 24-Jul-18 16:57
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 217 Robert Jameson 06-Jul-18 14:02
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 216 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:27
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 198 michael seabrook 08-Jul-18 07:22
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 199 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:51
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 212 michael seabrook 08-Jul-18 07:02
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Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 203 Robert Jameson 08-Jul-18 17:49
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Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 197 Robert Jameson 09-Jul-18 00:40
Yes, how? 201 greengirl5 09-Jul-18 01:48
Re: Yes, how? 204 Robert Jameson 09-Jul-18 03:17
Re: Yes, how? 196 greengirl5 09-Jul-18 05:35
Re: Yes, how? 216 Robert Jameson 09-Jul-18 12:27
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 203 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:44
Crick, Watson and accuracy . . thank you, amended . . . 190 SallyA 11-Jul-18 16:05
Re: Crick, Watson and accuracy . . thank you, amended . . . 195 Andrew Collins Author 11-Jul-18 17:35
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 203 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:38
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Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 202 Andrew Collins Author 11-Jul-18 17:38
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Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 188 Andrew Collins Author 13-Jul-18 22:18
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Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 226 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:14
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Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 201 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:56
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 263 drrayeye 05-Jul-18 06:35
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 253 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:59
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 229 SallyA 06-Jul-18 03:22
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 226 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:40
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: Aesir & Vanir, and . . . 208 SallyA 09-Jul-18 00:32
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: Aesir & Vanir, and . . . 222 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:37
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: Agree 100%, . . Odin from general vicinity of Anatolia . . NM 194 SallyA 10-Jul-18 15:31
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: Agree 100%, . . Odin from general vicinity of Anatolia . . NM 201 Andrew Collins Author 11-Jul-18 17:41
Balanced speculation 214 drrayeye 06-Jul-18 18:38
Re: Balanced speculation 208 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:43
Re: Balanced speculation 222 drrayeye 07-Jul-18 00:22
Re: Balanced speculation 205 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 16:09
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Re: The Black Swan 243 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 16:16
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Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 216 jazzmumbles 08-Jul-18 03:15
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 205 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 16:25
The Idigna Bird and Kal 227 MDaines 08-Jul-18 16:49
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