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Hi Andrew,
No, I didn’t know about Cepheus or the idea that those four symbols were those of a demon. This is certainly post-Sumerian, at least my notion of Sumer which is prior to the start of the cuneiform period. It becomes confusing because we’re obliged to use these all-encompassing names. As I said, my only speciality is the original monosyllabic language. This has led me, through a long text translation, to a pagan world, a very human one, which is not isolated from the stuff we know already from elsewhere - as academic or Sitchin’s texts would have it. It’s a story that encompasses Egypt with the feather of truth, mixing Odysseus with Pan tied to the ship’s mast, and tells the Genesis stories of the destruction of the tower, of Noah and the ark before the bible version. Along the way, it gives us the origins of the Greek myths and the etymology of countless (PIE) words used today. There are no borders. Only the framework of time. The tablets date to 2500 BC but it’s already just repetition. Most important of all, the world before Babel was steeped in shamanism, in questions of duality, and both Taoism and Buddhism take their sources there. It’s all in the texts. It’s all been suppressed.

You’re right to see that the birds could be of completely different types. My preference for the overall and enduring title of the bird associated with shamanism would be HU-A. In my text, it was written A-HU, water and bird, the waterbird, but there are no fast and hard rules. And it is most certainly to be linked to the Milky Way.

The same possibility of inverted syllables applies to Gobekli. I want to weep when I see that the tourism sites are now calling it “Potbelly Hill” without mention of its name. Like calling Big Ben the “old tower”. We discover a site many thousands of years old, and then toss aside its equally ancient name. That’s called throwing the baby out with the bath water. I’m working on restitution.

I’m sure you know far more about the constellations than me. My knowledge has been eclectic from the start of this. I work outwards from the symbols. They resonate with ships, sailors, masts and rigging so no surprise that the sky is in there too. If you have names you want to explore further, let me know. UD KA DUH A doesn’t help: sun/day/dry, mouth/word/voice, to spread/chest, flow/water. Nothing to be made of it without context, I’m afraid; but the context of extreme weather would create enemies and perhaps monsters.

You have gone way back in time, Andrew. The stories are confused unless you look for them before Babel but analysing the names might still be of use. You mention Chemi. That might be one, right there! Look for CEM on ePSD. The ‘C’ gives the equivalent sound to Š. Do you have any trace of the etymology? I wouldn't like to be caught looking for ancient history in Denis!

Take care,
Madeleine

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The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 3530 Andrew Collins Author 03-Jul-18 17:29
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 554 SallyA 04-Jul-18 19:44
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 529 Andrew Collins Author 04-Jul-18 21:51
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 592 michael seabrook 04-Jul-18 21:56
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 529 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:28
Paranormalist 524 greengirl5 06-Jul-18 00:04
Re: Paranormalist 499 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 22:52
Re: Paranormalist 465 greengirl5 07-Jul-18 23:36
Re: Paranormalist 460 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:44
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 502 michael seabrook 06-Jul-18 20:55
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 487 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 22:59
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 439 michael seabrook 06-Jul-18 23:13
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 455 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:25
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 523 SallyA 05-Jul-18 00:57
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? .. Mod help, please .. 529 SallyA 05-Jul-18 01:27
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? .. Mod help, please .. 501 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:45
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 493 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:42
More snakes 756 Robert Jameson 05-Jul-18 06:26
Re: More snakes 512 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:54
Re: More snakes 460 Robert Jameson 06-Jul-18 13:59
Re: More snakes 465 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:11
Re: More snakes 446 drrayeye 07-Jul-18 00:29
Re: More snakes 463 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:47
Re: More snakes 428 Robert Jameson 08-Jul-18 17:07
Re: the pyramids of Giza, built, how? 451 SallyA 08-Jul-18 23:48
Re: the pyramids of Giza, built, how? 457 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:40
Re: More snakes 454 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:30
Sperm cells and microscopes 490 greengirl5 05-Jul-18 23:41
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" from the Dream Time, her two companions, and her master . . 477 SallyA 06-Jul-18 02:38
Re: Yeti ... are actual, have rather odd eyes and are fast and very capable 449 SallyA 06-Jul-18 02:49
Re: Yeti ... source page: 447 SallyA 06-Jul-18 03:05
Re: Yeti ... source page: 461 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:24
Re: Yeti ... are actual, have rather odd eyes and are fast and very capable 445 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:26
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" from the Dream Time, her two companions, and her master . . 478 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:23
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" ... images of House of Sokar . . 3 serpents as on Gobekli pillar: 472 SallyA 17-Jul-18 18:14
Re: O.T., . . Looking for the BIG picture, the temporal ghestalts . . 481 SallyA 17-Jul-18 19:12
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" ... images of House of Sokar . . 3 serpents as on Gobekli pillar: 445 Andrew Collins Author 23-Jul-18 13:27
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" ... images of House of Sokar . . 3 serpents as on Gobekli pillar: 680 SallyA 24-Jul-18 16:57
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 470 Robert Jameson 06-Jul-18 14:02
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 439 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:27
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 428 michael seabrook 08-Jul-18 07:22
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 438 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:51
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 436 michael seabrook 08-Jul-18 07:02
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Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 440 SallyA 09-Jul-18 00:20
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 427 Robert Jameson 09-Jul-18 00:40
Yes, how? 428 greengirl5 09-Jul-18 01:48
Re: Yes, how? 440 Robert Jameson 09-Jul-18 03:17
Re: Yes, how? 440 greengirl5 09-Jul-18 05:35
Re: Yes, how? 470 Robert Jameson 09-Jul-18 12:27
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 439 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:44
Crick, Watson and accuracy . . thank you, amended . . . 432 SallyA 11-Jul-18 16:05
Re: Crick, Watson and accuracy . . thank you, amended . . . 421 Andrew Collins Author 11-Jul-18 17:35
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 454 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:38
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Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 441 Andrew Collins Author 11-Jul-18 17:38
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Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 411 Andrew Collins Author 13-Jul-18 22:18
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Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 465 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:14
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Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 447 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:56
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 506 drrayeye 05-Jul-18 06:35
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 487 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:59
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 463 SallyA 06-Jul-18 03:22
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 473 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:40
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: Aesir & Vanir, and . . . 444 SallyA 09-Jul-18 00:32
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: Aesir & Vanir, and . . . 479 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:37
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: Agree 100%, . . Odin from general vicinity of Anatolia . . NM 427 SallyA 10-Jul-18 15:31
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: Agree 100%, . . Odin from general vicinity of Anatolia . . NM 445 Andrew Collins Author 11-Jul-18 17:41
Balanced speculation 438 drrayeye 06-Jul-18 18:38
Re: Balanced speculation 430 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:43
Re: Balanced speculation 460 drrayeye 07-Jul-18 00:22
Re: Balanced speculation 430 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 16:09
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Re: The Black Swan 466 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 16:16
Re: The Black Swan 435 greengirl5 09-Jul-18 02:03
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 464 jazzmumbles 08-Jul-18 03:15
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 455 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 16:25
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