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Hi Andrew,
No, I didn’t know about Cepheus or the idea that those four symbols were those of a demon. This is certainly post-Sumerian, at least my notion of Sumer which is prior to the start of the cuneiform period. It becomes confusing because we’re obliged to use these all-encompassing names. As I said, my only speciality is the original monosyllabic language. This has led me, through a long text translation, to a pagan world, a very human one, which is not isolated from the stuff we know already from elsewhere - as academic or Sitchin’s texts would have it. It’s a story that encompasses Egypt with the feather of truth, mixing Odysseus with Pan tied to the ship’s mast, and tells the Genesis stories of the destruction of the tower, of Noah and the ark before the bible version. Along the way, it gives us the origins of the Greek myths and the etymology of countless (PIE) words used today. There are no borders. Only the framework of time. The tablets date to 2500 BC but it’s already just repetition. Most important of all, the world before Babel was steeped in shamanism, in questions of duality, and both Taoism and Buddhism take their sources there. It’s all in the texts. It’s all been suppressed.

You’re right to see that the birds could be of completely different types. My preference for the overall and enduring title of the bird associated with shamanism would be HU-A. In my text, it was written A-HU, water and bird, the waterbird, but there are no fast and hard rules. And it is most certainly to be linked to the Milky Way.

The same possibility of inverted syllables applies to Gobekli. I want to weep when I see that the tourism sites are now calling it “Potbelly Hill” without mention of its name. Like calling Big Ben the “old tower”. We discover a site many thousands of years old, and then toss aside its equally ancient name. That’s called throwing the baby out with the bath water. I’m working on restitution.

I’m sure you know far more about the constellations than me. My knowledge has been eclectic from the start of this. I work outwards from the symbols. They resonate with ships, sailors, masts and rigging so no surprise that the sky is in there too. If you have names you want to explore further, let me know. UD KA DUH A doesn’t help: sun/day/dry, mouth/word/voice, to spread/chest, flow/water. Nothing to be made of it without context, I’m afraid; but the context of extreme weather would create enemies and perhaps monsters.

You have gone way back in time, Andrew. The stories are confused unless you look for them before Babel but analysing the names might still be of use. You mention Chemi. That might be one, right there! Look for CEM on ePSD. The ‘C’ gives the equivalent sound to Š. Do you have any trace of the etymology? I wouldn't like to be caught looking for ancient history in Denis!

Take care,
Madeleine

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The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 891 Andrew Collins Author 03-Jul-18 17:29
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 73 SallyA 04-Jul-18 19:44
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 58 Andrew Collins Author 04-Jul-18 21:51
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 75 michael seabrook 04-Jul-18 21:56
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 55 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:28
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Re: Paranormalist 40 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 22:52
Re: Paranormalist 26 greengirl5 07-Jul-18 23:36
Re: Paranormalist 24 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:44
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 32 michael seabrook 06-Jul-18 20:55
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 35 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 22:59
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 30 michael seabrook 06-Jul-18 23:13
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 32 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:25
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 54 SallyA 05-Jul-18 00:57
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? .. Mod help, please .. 56 SallyA 05-Jul-18 01:27
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? .. Mod help, please .. 42 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:45
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 38 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:42
More snakes 70 Robert Jameson 05-Jul-18 06:26
Re: More snakes 56 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:54
Re: More snakes 43 Robert Jameson 06-Jul-18 13:59
Re: More snakes 45 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:11
Re: More snakes 33 drrayeye 07-Jul-18 00:29
Re: More snakes 21 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:47
Re: More snakes 22 Robert Jameson 08-Jul-18 17:07
Re: the pyramids of Giza, built, how? 30 SallyA 08-Jul-18 23:48
Re: the pyramids of Giza, built, how? 24 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:40
Re: More snakes 23 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:30
Sperm cells and microscopes 41 greengirl5 05-Jul-18 23:41
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" from the Dream Time, her two companions, and her master . . 35 SallyA 06-Jul-18 02:38
Re: Yeti ... are actual, have rather odd eyes and are fast and very capable 33 SallyA 06-Jul-18 02:49
Re: Yeti ... source page: 33 SallyA 06-Jul-18 03:05
Re: Yeti ... source page: 23 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:24
Re: Yeti ... are actual, have rather odd eyes and are fast and very capable 28 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:26
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" from the Dream Time, her two companions, and her master . . 32 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:23
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" ... images of House of Sokar . . 3 serpents as on Gobekli pillar: 21 SallyA 17-Jul-18 18:14
Re: O.T., . . Looking for the BIG picture, the temporal ghestalts . . 15 SallyA 17-Jul-18 19:12
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 36 Robert Jameson 06-Jul-18 14:02
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 37 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:27
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 23 michael seabrook 08-Jul-18 07:22
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 20 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:51
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Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 18 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:53
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 25 Robert Jameson 08-Jul-18 17:49
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 17 SallyA 09-Jul-18 00:20
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 20 Robert Jameson 09-Jul-18 00:40
Yes, how? 21 greengirl5 09-Jul-18 01:48
Re: Yes, how? 22 Robert Jameson 09-Jul-18 03:17
Re: Yes, how? 22 greengirl5 09-Jul-18 05:35
Re: Yes, how? 32 Robert Jameson 09-Jul-18 12:27
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 24 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:44
Crick, Watson and accuracy . . thank you, amended . . . 16 SallyA 11-Jul-18 16:05
Re: Crick, Watson and accuracy . . thank you, amended . . . 18 Andrew Collins Author 11-Jul-18 17:35
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 23 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:38
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 28 Robert Jameson 10-Jul-18 00:51
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 23 Andrew Collins Author 11-Jul-18 17:38
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 46 Robert Jameson 12-Jul-18 00:02
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 13 Andrew Collins Author 13-Jul-18 22:18
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Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 34 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:14
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 30 greengirl5 07-Jul-18 14:01
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 20 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:56
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 67 drrayeye 05-Jul-18 06:35
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 45 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:59
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 47 SallyA 06-Jul-18 03:22
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 26 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:40
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: Aesir & Vanir, and . . . 17 SallyA 09-Jul-18 00:32
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: Aesir & Vanir, and . . . 21 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:37
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: Agree 100%, . . Odin from general vicinity of Anatolia . . NM 22 SallyA 10-Jul-18 15:31
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: Agree 100%, . . Odin from general vicinity of Anatolia . . NM 22 Andrew Collins Author 11-Jul-18 17:41
Balanced speculation 38 drrayeye 06-Jul-18 18:38
Re: Balanced speculation 31 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:43
Re: Balanced speculation 41 drrayeye 07-Jul-18 00:22
Re: Balanced speculation 24 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 16:09
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Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 41 jazzmumbles 08-Jul-18 03:15
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 24 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 16:25
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