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Hi Andrew,
No, I didn’t know about Cepheus or the idea that those four symbols were those of a demon. This is certainly post-Sumerian, at least my notion of Sumer which is prior to the start of the cuneiform period. It becomes confusing because we’re obliged to use these all-encompassing names. As I said, my only speciality is the original monosyllabic language. This has led me, through a long text translation, to a pagan world, a very human one, which is not isolated from the stuff we know already from elsewhere - as academic or Sitchin’s texts would have it. It’s a story that encompasses Egypt with the feather of truth, mixing Odysseus with Pan tied to the ship’s mast, and tells the Genesis stories of the destruction of the tower, of Noah and the ark before the bible version. Along the way, it gives us the origins of the Greek myths and the etymology of countless (PIE) words used today. There are no borders. Only the framework of time. The tablets date to 2500 BC but it’s already just repetition. Most important of all, the world before Babel was steeped in shamanism, in questions of duality, and both Taoism and Buddhism take their sources there. It’s all in the texts. It’s all been suppressed.

You’re right to see that the birds could be of completely different types. My preference for the overall and enduring title of the bird associated with shamanism would be HU-A. In my text, it was written A-HU, water and bird, the waterbird, but there are no fast and hard rules. And it is most certainly to be linked to the Milky Way.

The same possibility of inverted syllables applies to Gobekli. I want to weep when I see that the tourism sites are now calling it “Potbelly Hill” without mention of its name. Like calling Big Ben the “old tower”. We discover a site many thousands of years old, and then toss aside its equally ancient name. That’s called throwing the baby out with the bath water. I’m working on restitution.

I’m sure you know far more about the constellations than me. My knowledge has been eclectic from the start of this. I work outwards from the symbols. They resonate with ships, sailors, masts and rigging so no surprise that the sky is in there too. If you have names you want to explore further, let me know. UD KA DUH A doesn’t help: sun/day/dry, mouth/word/voice, to spread/chest, flow/water. Nothing to be made of it without context, I’m afraid; but the context of extreme weather would create enemies and perhaps monsters.

You have gone way back in time, Andrew. The stories are confused unless you look for them before Babel but analysing the names might still be of use. You mention Chemi. That might be one, right there! Look for CEM on ePSD. The ‘C’ gives the equivalent sound to Š. Do you have any trace of the etymology? I wouldn't like to be caught looking for ancient history in Denis!

Take care,
Madeleine

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The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 3130 Andrew Collins Author 03-Jul-18 17:29
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 413 SallyA 04-Jul-18 19:44
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 399 Andrew Collins Author 04-Jul-18 21:51
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 436 michael seabrook 04-Jul-18 21:56
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 396 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:28
Paranormalist 392 greengirl5 06-Jul-18 00:04
Re: Paranormalist 372 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 22:52
Re: Paranormalist 335 greengirl5 07-Jul-18 23:36
Re: Paranormalist 325 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:44
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 361 michael seabrook 06-Jul-18 20:55
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 368 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 22:59
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 320 michael seabrook 06-Jul-18 23:13
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 323 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:25
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 395 SallyA 05-Jul-18 00:57
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? .. Mod help, please .. 399 SallyA 05-Jul-18 01:27
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? .. Mod help, please .. 376 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:45
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 362 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:42
More snakes 518 Robert Jameson 05-Jul-18 06:26
Re: More snakes 377 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:54
Re: More snakes 336 Robert Jameson 06-Jul-18 13:59
Re: More snakes 342 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:11
Re: More snakes 323 drrayeye 07-Jul-18 00:29
Re: More snakes 332 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:47
Re: More snakes 313 Robert Jameson 08-Jul-18 17:07
Re: the pyramids of Giza, built, how? 325 SallyA 08-Jul-18 23:48
Re: the pyramids of Giza, built, how? 329 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:40
Re: More snakes 321 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:30
Sperm cells and microscopes 351 greengirl5 05-Jul-18 23:41
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" from the Dream Time, her two companions, and her master . . 341 SallyA 06-Jul-18 02:38
Re: Yeti ... are actual, have rather odd eyes and are fast and very capable 329 SallyA 06-Jul-18 02:49
Re: Yeti ... source page: 331 SallyA 06-Jul-18 03:05
Re: Yeti ... source page: 328 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:24
Re: Yeti ... are actual, have rather odd eyes and are fast and very capable 326 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:26
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" from the Dream Time, her two companions, and her master . . 344 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:23
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" ... images of House of Sokar . . 3 serpents as on Gobekli pillar: 326 SallyA 17-Jul-18 18:14
Re: O.T., . . Looking for the BIG picture, the temporal ghestalts . . 351 SallyA 17-Jul-18 19:12
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" ... images of House of Sokar . . 3 serpents as on Gobekli pillar: 315 Andrew Collins Author 23-Jul-18 13:27
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" ... images of House of Sokar . . 3 serpents as on Gobekli pillar: 465 SallyA 24-Jul-18 16:57
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 330 Robert Jameson 06-Jul-18 14:02
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 321 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:27
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 300 michael seabrook 08-Jul-18 07:22
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 309 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:51
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 313 michael seabrook 08-Jul-18 07:02
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 314 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:53
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 315 Robert Jameson 08-Jul-18 17:49
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 306 SallyA 09-Jul-18 00:20
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 304 Robert Jameson 09-Jul-18 00:40
Yes, how? 308 greengirl5 09-Jul-18 01:48
Re: Yes, how? 313 Robert Jameson 09-Jul-18 03:17
Re: Yes, how? 306 greengirl5 09-Jul-18 05:35
Re: Yes, how? 334 Robert Jameson 09-Jul-18 12:27
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 312 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:44
Crick, Watson and accuracy . . thank you, amended . . . 297 SallyA 11-Jul-18 16:05
Re: Crick, Watson and accuracy . . thank you, amended . . . 300 Andrew Collins Author 11-Jul-18 17:35
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 314 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:38
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Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 306 Andrew Collins Author 11-Jul-18 17:38
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 344 Robert Jameson 12-Jul-18 00:02
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 290 Andrew Collins Author 13-Jul-18 22:18
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Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 330 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:14
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Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 311 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:56
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 369 drrayeye 05-Jul-18 06:35
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 356 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:59
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 332 SallyA 06-Jul-18 03:22
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 339 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:40
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: Aesir & Vanir, and . . . 309 SallyA 09-Jul-18 00:32
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: Aesir & Vanir, and . . . 344 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:37
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: Agree 100%, . . Odin from general vicinity of Anatolia . . NM 302 SallyA 10-Jul-18 15:31
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: Agree 100%, . . Odin from general vicinity of Anatolia . . NM 313 Andrew Collins Author 11-Jul-18 17:41
Balanced speculation 319 drrayeye 06-Jul-18 18:38
Re: Balanced speculation 311 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:43
Re: Balanced speculation 328 drrayeye 07-Jul-18 00:22
Re: Balanced speculation 315 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 16:09
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Re: The Black Swan 348 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 16:16
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Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 327 jazzmumbles 08-Jul-18 03:15
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 315 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 16:25
The Idigna Bird and Kal 333 MDaines 08-Jul-18 16:49
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Re: Kailasa . . pardon, rebounding, and centering . . 321 SallyA 09-Jul-18 18:38
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