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Hi Andrew,
No, I didn’t know about Cepheus or the idea that those four symbols were those of a demon. This is certainly post-Sumerian, at least my notion of Sumer which is prior to the start of the cuneiform period. It becomes confusing because we’re obliged to use these all-encompassing names. As I said, my only speciality is the original monosyllabic language. This has led me, through a long text translation, to a pagan world, a very human one, which is not isolated from the stuff we know already from elsewhere - as academic or Sitchin’s texts would have it. It’s a story that encompasses Egypt with the feather of truth, mixing Odysseus with Pan tied to the ship’s mast, and tells the Genesis stories of the destruction of the tower, of Noah and the ark before the bible version. Along the way, it gives us the origins of the Greek myths and the etymology of countless (PIE) words used today. There are no borders. Only the framework of time. The tablets date to 2500 BC but it’s already just repetition. Most important of all, the world before Babel was steeped in shamanism, in questions of duality, and both Taoism and Buddhism take their sources there. It’s all in the texts. It’s all been suppressed.

You’re right to see that the birds could be of completely different types. My preference for the overall and enduring title of the bird associated with shamanism would be HU-A. In my text, it was written A-HU, water and bird, the waterbird, but there are no fast and hard rules. And it is most certainly to be linked to the Milky Way.

The same possibility of inverted syllables applies to Gobekli. I want to weep when I see that the tourism sites are now calling it “Potbelly Hill” without mention of its name. Like calling Big Ben the “old tower”. We discover a site many thousands of years old, and then toss aside its equally ancient name. That’s called throwing the baby out with the bath water. I’m working on restitution.

I’m sure you know far more about the constellations than me. My knowledge has been eclectic from the start of this. I work outwards from the symbols. They resonate with ships, sailors, masts and rigging so no surprise that the sky is in there too. If you have names you want to explore further, let me know. UD KA DUH A doesn’t help: sun/day/dry, mouth/word/voice, to spread/chest, flow/water. Nothing to be made of it without context, I’m afraid; but the context of extreme weather would create enemies and perhaps monsters.

You have gone way back in time, Andrew. The stories are confused unless you look for them before Babel but analysing the names might still be of use. You mention Chemi. That might be one, right there! Look for CEM on ePSD. The ‘C’ gives the equivalent sound to Š. Do you have any trace of the etymology? I wouldn't like to be caught looking for ancient history in Denis!

Take care,
Madeleine

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The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 3214 Andrew Collins Author 03-Jul-18 17:29
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 455 SallyA 04-Jul-18 19:44
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 434 Andrew Collins Author 04-Jul-18 21:51
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 479 michael seabrook 04-Jul-18 21:56
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 434 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:28
Paranormalist 428 greengirl5 06-Jul-18 00:04
Re: Paranormalist 406 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 22:52
Re: Paranormalist 371 greengirl5 07-Jul-18 23:36
Re: Paranormalist 361 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:44
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 404 michael seabrook 06-Jul-18 20:55
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 406 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 22:59
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 355 michael seabrook 06-Jul-18 23:13
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 359 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:25
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 431 SallyA 05-Jul-18 00:57
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? .. Mod help, please .. 436 SallyA 05-Jul-18 01:27
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? .. Mod help, please .. 413 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:45
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 398 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:42
More snakes 574 Robert Jameson 05-Jul-18 06:26
Re: More snakes 415 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:54
Re: More snakes 375 Robert Jameson 06-Jul-18 13:59
Re: More snakes 379 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:11
Re: More snakes 358 drrayeye 07-Jul-18 00:29
Re: More snakes 367 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:47
Re: More snakes 350 Robert Jameson 08-Jul-18 17:07
Re: the pyramids of Giza, built, how? 361 SallyA 08-Jul-18 23:48
Re: the pyramids of Giza, built, how? 365 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:40
Re: More snakes 355 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:30
Sperm cells and microscopes 388 greengirl5 05-Jul-18 23:41
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" from the Dream Time, her two companions, and her master . . 379 SallyA 06-Jul-18 02:38
Re: Yeti ... are actual, have rather odd eyes and are fast and very capable 367 SallyA 06-Jul-18 02:49
Re: Yeti ... source page: 365 SallyA 06-Jul-18 03:05
Re: Yeti ... source page: 364 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:24
Re: Yeti ... are actual, have rather odd eyes and are fast and very capable 361 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:26
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" from the Dream Time, her two companions, and her master . . 382 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:23
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" ... images of House of Sokar . . 3 serpents as on Gobekli pillar: 362 SallyA 17-Jul-18 18:14
Re: O.T., . . Looking for the BIG picture, the temporal ghestalts . . 397 SallyA 17-Jul-18 19:12
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" ... images of House of Sokar . . 3 serpents as on Gobekli pillar: 351 Andrew Collins Author 23-Jul-18 13:27
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" ... images of House of Sokar . . 3 serpents as on Gobekli pillar: 519 SallyA 24-Jul-18 16:57
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 370 Robert Jameson 06-Jul-18 14:02
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 358 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:27
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 338 michael seabrook 08-Jul-18 07:22
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 343 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:51
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 349 michael seabrook 08-Jul-18 07:02
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 350 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:53
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 361 Robert Jameson 08-Jul-18 17:49
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 345 SallyA 09-Jul-18 00:20
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 344 Robert Jameson 09-Jul-18 00:40
Yes, how? 346 greengirl5 09-Jul-18 01:48
Re: Yes, how? 347 Robert Jameson 09-Jul-18 03:17
Re: Yes, how? 345 greengirl5 09-Jul-18 05:35
Re: Yes, how? 371 Robert Jameson 09-Jul-18 12:27
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 347 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:44
Crick, Watson and accuracy . . thank you, amended . . . 336 SallyA 11-Jul-18 16:05
Re: Crick, Watson and accuracy . . thank you, amended . . . 339 Andrew Collins Author 11-Jul-18 17:35
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 352 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:38
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 354 Robert Jameson 10-Jul-18 00:51
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 344 Andrew Collins Author 11-Jul-18 17:38
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 379 Robert Jameson 12-Jul-18 00:02
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 326 Andrew Collins Author 13-Jul-18 22:18
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Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 367 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:14
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 350 greengirl5 07-Jul-18 14:01
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 347 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:56
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 405 drrayeye 05-Jul-18 06:35
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 395 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:59
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 367 SallyA 06-Jul-18 03:22
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 376 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:40
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: Aesir & Vanir, and . . . 346 SallyA 09-Jul-18 00:32
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: Aesir & Vanir, and . . . 380 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:37
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: Agree 100%, . . Odin from general vicinity of Anatolia . . NM 341 SallyA 10-Jul-18 15:31
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: Agree 100%, . . Odin from general vicinity of Anatolia . . NM 350 Andrew Collins Author 11-Jul-18 17:41
Balanced speculation 354 drrayeye 06-Jul-18 18:38
Re: Balanced speculation 348 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:43
Re: Balanced speculation 369 drrayeye 07-Jul-18 00:22
Re: Balanced speculation 352 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 16:09
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Re: The Black Swan 383 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 16:16
Re: The Black Swan 350 greengirl5 09-Jul-18 02:03
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 366 jazzmumbles 08-Jul-18 03:15
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 349 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 16:25
The Idigna Bird and Kal 369 MDaines 08-Jul-18 16:49
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Re: Kailasa . . pardon, rebounding, and centering . . 356 SallyA 09-Jul-18 18:38
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