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I had read it both ways, but the Aya version later, and the LSD version originally, and I believe you are correct.

Thanks for the correction. Hopefully I can make more headway in your book today.

I think you would find the divide pro and con on ethnogens is still here, but it wanes as the older generation passes.
So many things are this way, the ideas we ingrain and embed into practice do not go easily, and often they require time and the roll-out of new generations to be updated!

Marriage has become an updating item over here. Couples can maintain almost separate worldly lives, and yet pursue a spiritual bonding without religious oversight or blessing. It reduces the costs of lawyers and courts, except in the cases of disputed child guardianship.

(The early Jewish nation had no problems this way, but many of America's problems stem from her hugely multi-cultural base. Her own legacy is only about freedom, and from there the culture and meilu are populatio dependent, no unified front to speak of, no overall cohesion.)


Yesterday was an exercise in charging recalcitrant technology. (I almost ended up with a replacement phone!)

Today is new brake pads and an auto battery checking session. And probably 100°F in the shade. Necessitates camping in coffee shops or bakery cafes. Civilization is a helpful item!

Breath is the courser and
Mind is the rider.
~Zoroaster

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The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 3555 Andrew Collins Author 03-Jul-18 17:29
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 562 SallyA 04-Jul-18 19:44
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 538 Andrew Collins Author 04-Jul-18 21:51
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 600 michael seabrook 04-Jul-18 21:56
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 537 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:28
Paranormalist 532 greengirl5 06-Jul-18 00:04
Re: Paranormalist 507 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 22:52
Re: Paranormalist 474 greengirl5 07-Jul-18 23:36
Re: Paranormalist 468 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:44
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 510 michael seabrook 06-Jul-18 20:55
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 495 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 22:59
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 447 michael seabrook 06-Jul-18 23:13
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 463 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:25
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 531 SallyA 05-Jul-18 00:57
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? .. Mod help, please .. 537 SallyA 05-Jul-18 01:27
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? .. Mod help, please .. 509 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:45
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 502 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:42
More snakes 774 Robert Jameson 05-Jul-18 06:26
Re: More snakes 520 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:54
Re: More snakes 468 Robert Jameson 06-Jul-18 13:59
Re: More snakes 473 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:11
Re: More snakes 454 drrayeye 07-Jul-18 00:29
Re: More snakes 471 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:47
Re: More snakes 436 Robert Jameson 08-Jul-18 17:07
Re: the pyramids of Giza, built, how? 460 SallyA 08-Jul-18 23:48
Re: the pyramids of Giza, built, how? 465 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:40
Re: More snakes 463 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:30
Sperm cells and microscopes 499 greengirl5 05-Jul-18 23:41
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" from the Dream Time, her two companions, and her master . . 488 SallyA 06-Jul-18 02:38
Re: Yeti ... are actual, have rather odd eyes and are fast and very capable 457 SallyA 06-Jul-18 02:49
Re: Yeti ... source page: 456 SallyA 06-Jul-18 03:05
Re: Yeti ... source page: 469 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:24
Re: Yeti ... are actual, have rather odd eyes and are fast and very capable 453 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:26
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" from the Dream Time, her two companions, and her master . . 487 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:23
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" ... images of House of Sokar . . 3 serpents as on Gobekli pillar: 480 SallyA 17-Jul-18 18:14
Re: O.T., . . Looking for the BIG picture, the temporal ghestalts . . 489 SallyA 17-Jul-18 19:12
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" ... images of House of Sokar . . 3 serpents as on Gobekli pillar: 453 Andrew Collins Author 23-Jul-18 13:27
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" ... images of House of Sokar . . 3 serpents as on Gobekli pillar: 695 SallyA 24-Jul-18 16:57
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 479 Robert Jameson 06-Jul-18 14:02
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 447 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:27
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 436 michael seabrook 08-Jul-18 07:22
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 446 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:51
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 444 michael seabrook 08-Jul-18 07:02
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 437 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:53
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 458 Robert Jameson 08-Jul-18 17:49
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 450 SallyA 09-Jul-18 00:20
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 435 Robert Jameson 09-Jul-18 00:40
Yes, how? 437 greengirl5 09-Jul-18 01:48
Re: Yes, how? 448 Robert Jameson 09-Jul-18 03:17
Re: Yes, how? 449 greengirl5 09-Jul-18 05:35
Re: Yes, how? 479 Robert Jameson 09-Jul-18 12:27
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 447 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:44
Crick, Watson and accuracy . . thank you, amended . . . 440 SallyA 11-Jul-18 16:05
Re: Crick, Watson and accuracy . . thank you, amended . . . 431 Andrew Collins Author 11-Jul-18 17:35
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 462 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:38
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 460 Robert Jameson 10-Jul-18 00:51
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 450 Andrew Collins Author 11-Jul-18 17:38
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 473 Robert Jameson 12-Jul-18 00:02
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 420 Andrew Collins Author 13-Jul-18 22:18
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 456 Robert Jameson 14-Jul-18 01:58
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 474 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:14
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 441 greengirl5 07-Jul-18 14:01
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 455 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:56
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 514 drrayeye 05-Jul-18 06:35
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 495 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:59
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 472 SallyA 06-Jul-18 03:22
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 482 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:40
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: Aesir & Vanir, and . . . 453 SallyA 09-Jul-18 00:32
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: Aesir & Vanir, and . . . 487 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:37
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: Agree 100%, . . Odin from general vicinity of Anatolia . . NM 435 SallyA 10-Jul-18 15:31
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: Agree 100%, . . Odin from general vicinity of Anatolia . . NM 456 Andrew Collins Author 11-Jul-18 17:41
Balanced speculation 446 drrayeye 06-Jul-18 18:38
Re: Balanced speculation 438 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:43
Re: Balanced speculation 468 drrayeye 07-Jul-18 00:22
Re: Balanced speculation 438 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 16:09
The Black Swan 474 Robert Jameson 07-Jul-18 11:36
Re: The Black Swan 451 Robert Jameson 07-Jul-18 23:52
Re: The Black Swan 475 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 16:16
Re: The Black Swan 443 greengirl5 09-Jul-18 02:03
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 473 jazzmumbles 08-Jul-18 03:15
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 463 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 16:25
The Idigna Bird and Kal 460 MDaines 08-Jul-18 16:49
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal 464 SallyA 09-Jul-18 01:07
Kailasa and swans 475 drew 09-Jul-18 02:18
Re: Kailasa and swans 489 SallyA 09-Jul-18 03:23
Re: Kailasa and swans 451 drew 09-Jul-18 03:54
Re: Kailasa . . pardon, rebounding, and centering . . 461 SallyA 09-Jul-18 18:38
Re: Kailasa and swans 482 MDaines 09-Jul-18 07:56
Re: having an author to chat to 444 drew 09-Jul-18 20:53
Re: having an author to chat to 465 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 21:13
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal 456 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 21:03
Late comer..... 471 Itatw70s 10-Jul-18 00:17
Re: Late comer..... 446 Andrew Collins Author 11-Jul-18 17:42
Re: Late comer..... 471 Itatw70s 12-Jul-18 18:20
Re: Late comer..... 439 Andrew Collins Author 13-Jul-18 23:12
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal 489 MDaines 10-Jul-18 08:42
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal 471 SallyA 10-Jul-18 16:32
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal 456 Andrew Collins Author 11-Jul-18 18:07
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal 465 Andrew Collins Author 11-Jul-18 17:58
What's in a name? 470 MDaines 12-Jul-18 10:34
Re: What's in a name? 461 Andrew Collins Author 13-Jul-18 23:08
Re: What's in a name? 462 MDaines 14-Jul-18 07:04
Re: What's in a name? 451 Andrew Collins Author 23-Jul-18 13:30
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal 472 Broker 16-Jul-18 22:17
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal . . and leopards 488 SallyA 19-Jul-18 19:13
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal . . and leopards 470 Andrew Collins Author 23-Jul-18 13:36
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal 461 Andrew Collins Author 23-Jul-18 13:35


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