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I had read it both ways, but the Aya version later, and the LSD version originally, and I believe you are correct.

Thanks for the correction. Hopefully I can make more headway in your book today.

I think you would find the divide pro and con on ethnogens is still here, but it wanes as the older generation passes.
So many things are this way, the ideas we ingrain and embed into practice do not go easily, and often they require time and the roll-out of new generations to be updated!

Marriage has become an updating item over here. Couples can maintain almost separate worldly lives, and yet pursue a spiritual bonding without religious oversight or blessing. It reduces the costs of lawyers and courts, except in the cases of disputed child guardianship.

(The early Jewish nation had no problems this way, but many of America's problems stem from her hugely multi-cultural base. Her own legacy is only about freedom, and from there the culture and meilu are populatio dependent, no unified front to speak of, no overall cohesion.)


Yesterday was an exercise in charging recalcitrant technology. (I almost ended up with a replacement phone!)

Today is new brake pads and an auto battery checking session. And probably 100°F in the shade. Necessitates camping in coffee shops or bakery cafes. Civilization is a helpful item!

Breath is the courser and
Mind is the rider.
~Zoroaster

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The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 3134 Andrew Collins Author 03-Jul-18 17:29
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 415 SallyA 04-Jul-18 19:44
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 401 Andrew Collins Author 04-Jul-18 21:51
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 438 michael seabrook 04-Jul-18 21:56
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 398 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:28
Paranormalist 394 greengirl5 06-Jul-18 00:04
Re: Paranormalist 374 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 22:52
Re: Paranormalist 337 greengirl5 07-Jul-18 23:36
Re: Paranormalist 327 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:44
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 363 michael seabrook 06-Jul-18 20:55
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 370 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 22:59
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 322 michael seabrook 06-Jul-18 23:13
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 325 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:25
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 397 SallyA 05-Jul-18 00:57
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? .. Mod help, please .. 401 SallyA 05-Jul-18 01:27
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? .. Mod help, please .. 378 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:45
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 364 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:42
More snakes 521 Robert Jameson 05-Jul-18 06:26
Re: More snakes 379 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:54
Re: More snakes 338 Robert Jameson 06-Jul-18 13:59
Re: More snakes 345 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:11
Re: More snakes 325 drrayeye 07-Jul-18 00:29
Re: More snakes 334 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:47
Re: More snakes 315 Robert Jameson 08-Jul-18 17:07
Re: the pyramids of Giza, built, how? 327 SallyA 08-Jul-18 23:48
Re: the pyramids of Giza, built, how? 331 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:40
Re: More snakes 323 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:30
Sperm cells and microscopes 353 greengirl5 05-Jul-18 23:41
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" from the Dream Time, her two companions, and her master . . 343 SallyA 06-Jul-18 02:38
Re: Yeti ... are actual, have rather odd eyes and are fast and very capable 331 SallyA 06-Jul-18 02:49
Re: Yeti ... source page: 333 SallyA 06-Jul-18 03:05
Re: Yeti ... source page: 330 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:24
Re: Yeti ... are actual, have rather odd eyes and are fast and very capable 328 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:26
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" from the Dream Time, her two companions, and her master . . 347 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:23
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" ... images of House of Sokar . . 3 serpents as on Gobekli pillar: 328 SallyA 17-Jul-18 18:14
Re: O.T., . . Looking for the BIG picture, the temporal ghestalts . . 353 SallyA 17-Jul-18 19:12
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" ... images of House of Sokar . . 3 serpents as on Gobekli pillar: 317 Andrew Collins Author 23-Jul-18 13:27
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" ... images of House of Sokar . . 3 serpents as on Gobekli pillar: 467 SallyA 24-Jul-18 16:57
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 332 Robert Jameson 06-Jul-18 14:02
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 323 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:27
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 302 michael seabrook 08-Jul-18 07:22
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 311 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:51
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 315 michael seabrook 08-Jul-18 07:02
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 316 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:53
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 317 Robert Jameson 08-Jul-18 17:49
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 308 SallyA 09-Jul-18 00:20
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 306 Robert Jameson 09-Jul-18 00:40
Yes, how? 310 greengirl5 09-Jul-18 01:48
Re: Yes, how? 315 Robert Jameson 09-Jul-18 03:17
Re: Yes, how? 308 greengirl5 09-Jul-18 05:35
Re: Yes, how? 336 Robert Jameson 09-Jul-18 12:27
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 314 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:44
Crick, Watson and accuracy . . thank you, amended . . . 299 SallyA 11-Jul-18 16:05
Re: Crick, Watson and accuracy . . thank you, amended . . . 302 Andrew Collins Author 11-Jul-18 17:35
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 316 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:38
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 321 Robert Jameson 10-Jul-18 00:51
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 308 Andrew Collins Author 11-Jul-18 17:38
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 346 Robert Jameson 12-Jul-18 00:02
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 292 Andrew Collins Author 13-Jul-18 22:18
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 321 Robert Jameson 14-Jul-18 01:58
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 332 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:14
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 317 greengirl5 07-Jul-18 14:01
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 313 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:56
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 371 drrayeye 05-Jul-18 06:35
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 359 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:59
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 334 SallyA 06-Jul-18 03:22
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 341 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:40
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: Aesir & Vanir, and . . . 311 SallyA 09-Jul-18 00:32
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: Aesir & Vanir, and . . . 346 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:37
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: Agree 100%, . . Odin from general vicinity of Anatolia . . NM 304 SallyA 10-Jul-18 15:31
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: Agree 100%, . . Odin from general vicinity of Anatolia . . NM 315 Andrew Collins Author 11-Jul-18 17:41
Balanced speculation 321 drrayeye 06-Jul-18 18:38
Re: Balanced speculation 313 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:43
Re: Balanced speculation 331 drrayeye 07-Jul-18 00:22
Re: Balanced speculation 317 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 16:09
The Black Swan 342 Robert Jameson 07-Jul-18 11:36
Re: The Black Swan 331 Robert Jameson 07-Jul-18 23:52
Re: The Black Swan 350 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 16:16
Re: The Black Swan 318 greengirl5 09-Jul-18 02:03
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 329 jazzmumbles 08-Jul-18 03:15
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 317 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 16:25
The Idigna Bird and Kal 335 MDaines 08-Jul-18 16:49
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal 318 SallyA 09-Jul-18 01:07
Kailasa and swans 332 drew 09-Jul-18 02:18
Re: Kailasa and swans 337 SallyA 09-Jul-18 03:23
Re: Kailasa and swans 308 drew 09-Jul-18 03:54
Re: Kailasa . . pardon, rebounding, and centering . . 323 SallyA 09-Jul-18 18:38
Re: Kailasa and swans 343 MDaines 09-Jul-18 07:56
Re: having an author to chat to 319 drew 09-Jul-18 20:53
Re: having an author to chat to 325 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 21:13
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal 320 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 21:03
Late comer..... 334 Itatw70s 10-Jul-18 00:17
Re: Late comer..... 322 Andrew Collins Author 11-Jul-18 17:42
Re: Late comer..... 319 Itatw70s 12-Jul-18 18:20
Re: Late comer..... 301 Andrew Collins Author 13-Jul-18 23:12
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal 363 MDaines 10-Jul-18 08:42
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal 338 SallyA 10-Jul-18 16:32
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal 321 Andrew Collins Author 11-Jul-18 18:07
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal 336 Andrew Collins Author 11-Jul-18 17:58
What's in a name? 345 MDaines 12-Jul-18 10:34
Re: What's in a name? 338 Andrew Collins Author 13-Jul-18 23:08
Re: What's in a name? 319 MDaines 14-Jul-18 07:04
Re: What's in a name? 308 Andrew Collins Author 23-Jul-18 13:30
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal 334 Broker 16-Jul-18 22:17
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal . . and leopards 322 SallyA 19-Jul-18 19:13
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal . . and leopards 322 Andrew Collins Author 23-Jul-18 13:36
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal 319 Andrew Collins Author 23-Jul-18 13:35


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