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I had read it both ways, but the Aya version later, and the LSD version originally, and I believe you are correct.

Thanks for the correction. Hopefully I can make more headway in your book today.

I think you would find the divide pro and con on ethnogens is still here, but it wanes as the older generation passes.
So many things are this way, the ideas we ingrain and embed into practice do not go easily, and often they require time and the roll-out of new generations to be updated!

Marriage has become an updating item over here. Couples can maintain almost separate worldly lives, and yet pursue a spiritual bonding without religious oversight or blessing. It reduces the costs of lawyers and courts, except in the cases of disputed child guardianship.

(The early Jewish nation had no problems this way, but many of America's problems stem from her hugely multi-cultural base. Her own legacy is only about freedom, and from there the culture and meilu are populatio dependent, no unified front to speak of, no overall cohesion.)


Yesterday was an exercise in charging recalcitrant technology. (I almost ended up with a replacement phone!)

Today is new brake pads and an auto battery checking session. And probably 100°F in the shade. Necessitates camping in coffee shops or bakery cafes. Civilization is a helpful item!

Breath is the courser and
Mind is the rider.
~Zoroaster

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The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 2627 Andrew Collins Author 03-Jul-18 17:29
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 358 SallyA 04-Jul-18 19:44
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 344 Andrew Collins Author 04-Jul-18 21:51
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 375 michael seabrook 04-Jul-18 21:56
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 344 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:28
Paranormalist 337 greengirl5 06-Jul-18 00:04
Re: Paranormalist 317 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 22:52
Re: Paranormalist 287 greengirl5 07-Jul-18 23:36
Re: Paranormalist 277 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:44
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 308 michael seabrook 06-Jul-18 20:55
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 313 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 22:59
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 270 michael seabrook 06-Jul-18 23:13
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 275 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:25
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 339 SallyA 05-Jul-18 00:57
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? .. Mod help, please .. 338 SallyA 05-Jul-18 01:27
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? .. Mod help, please .. 323 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:45
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 313 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:42
More snakes 429 Robert Jameson 05-Jul-18 06:26
Re: More snakes 326 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:54
Re: More snakes 287 Robert Jameson 06-Jul-18 13:59
Re: More snakes 289 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:11
Re: More snakes 272 drrayeye 07-Jul-18 00:29
Re: More snakes 279 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:47
Re: More snakes 266 Robert Jameson 08-Jul-18 17:07
Re: the pyramids of Giza, built, how? 279 SallyA 08-Jul-18 23:48
Re: the pyramids of Giza, built, how? 277 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:40
Re: More snakes 271 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:30
Sperm cells and microscopes 306 greengirl5 05-Jul-18 23:41
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" from the Dream Time, her two companions, and her master . . 292 SallyA 06-Jul-18 02:38
Re: Yeti ... are actual, have rather odd eyes and are fast and very capable 276 SallyA 06-Jul-18 02:49
Re: Yeti ... source page: 283 SallyA 06-Jul-18 03:05
Re: Yeti ... source page: 275 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:24
Re: Yeti ... are actual, have rather odd eyes and are fast and very capable 278 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:26
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" from the Dream Time, her two companions, and her master . . 290 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:23
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" ... images of House of Sokar . . 3 serpents as on Gobekli pillar: 278 SallyA 17-Jul-18 18:14
Re: O.T., . . Looking for the BIG picture, the temporal ghestalts . . 298 SallyA 17-Jul-18 19:12
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" ... images of House of Sokar . . 3 serpents as on Gobekli pillar: 256 Andrew Collins Author 23-Jul-18 13:27
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" ... images of House of Sokar . . 3 serpents as on Gobekli pillar: 384 SallyA 24-Jul-18 16:57
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 273 Robert Jameson 06-Jul-18 14:02
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 272 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:27
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 252 michael seabrook 08-Jul-18 07:22
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 259 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:51
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 267 michael seabrook 08-Jul-18 07:02
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 267 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:53
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 260 Robert Jameson 08-Jul-18 17:49
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 253 SallyA 09-Jul-18 00:20
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 254 Robert Jameson 09-Jul-18 00:40
Yes, how? 258 greengirl5 09-Jul-18 01:48
Re: Yes, how? 265 Robert Jameson 09-Jul-18 03:17
Re: Yes, how? 253 greengirl5 09-Jul-18 05:35
Re: Yes, how? 276 Robert Jameson 09-Jul-18 12:27
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 263 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:44
Crick, Watson and accuracy . . thank you, amended . . . 244 SallyA 11-Jul-18 16:05
Re: Crick, Watson and accuracy . . thank you, amended . . . 253 Andrew Collins Author 11-Jul-18 17:35
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 268 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:38
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 271 Robert Jameson 10-Jul-18 00:51
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 261 Andrew Collins Author 11-Jul-18 17:38
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 284 Robert Jameson 12-Jul-18 00:02
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 244 Andrew Collins Author 13-Jul-18 22:18
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 262 Robert Jameson 14-Jul-18 01:58
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 283 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:14
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 266 greengirl5 07-Jul-18 14:01
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 262 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:56
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 321 drrayeye 05-Jul-18 06:35
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 307 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:59
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 283 SallyA 06-Jul-18 03:22
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 288 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:40
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: Aesir & Vanir, and . . . 264 SallyA 09-Jul-18 00:32
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: Aesir & Vanir, and . . . 288 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:37
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: Agree 100%, . . Odin from general vicinity of Anatolia . . NM 254 SallyA 10-Jul-18 15:31
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: Agree 100%, . . Odin from general vicinity of Anatolia . . NM 258 Andrew Collins Author 11-Jul-18 17:41
Balanced speculation 270 drrayeye 06-Jul-18 18:38
Re: Balanced speculation 265 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:43
Re: Balanced speculation 279 drrayeye 07-Jul-18 00:22
Re: Balanced speculation 261 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 16:09
The Black Swan 292 Robert Jameson 07-Jul-18 11:36
Re: The Black Swan 277 Robert Jameson 07-Jul-18 23:52
Re: The Black Swan 300 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 16:16
Re: The Black Swan 265 greengirl5 09-Jul-18 02:03
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 274 jazzmumbles 08-Jul-18 03:15
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 265 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 16:25
The Idigna Bird and Kal 285 MDaines 08-Jul-18 16:49
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal 268 SallyA 09-Jul-18 01:07
Kailasa and swans 281 drew 09-Jul-18 02:18
Re: Kailasa and swans 281 SallyA 09-Jul-18 03:23
Re: Kailasa and swans 261 drew 09-Jul-18 03:54
Re: Kailasa . . pardon, rebounding, and centering . . 270 SallyA 09-Jul-18 18:38
Re: Kailasa and swans 284 MDaines 09-Jul-18 07:56
Re: having an author to chat to 272 drew 09-Jul-18 20:53
Re: having an author to chat to 275 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 21:13
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal 273 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 21:03
Late comer..... 288 Itatw70s 10-Jul-18 00:17
Re: Late comer..... 263 Andrew Collins Author 11-Jul-18 17:42
Re: Late comer..... 263 Itatw70s 12-Jul-18 18:20
Re: Late comer..... 249 Andrew Collins Author 13-Jul-18 23:12
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal 305 MDaines 10-Jul-18 08:42
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal 284 SallyA 10-Jul-18 16:32
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal 268 Andrew Collins Author 11-Jul-18 18:07
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal 280 Andrew Collins Author 11-Jul-18 17:58
What's in a name? 295 MDaines 12-Jul-18 10:34
Re: What's in a name? 283 Andrew Collins Author 13-Jul-18 23:08
Re: What's in a name? 269 MDaines 14-Jul-18 07:04
Re: What's in a name? 251 Andrew Collins Author 23-Jul-18 13:30
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal 281 Broker 16-Jul-18 22:17
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal . . and leopards 262 SallyA 19-Jul-18 19:13
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal . . and leopards 269 Andrew Collins Author 23-Jul-18 13:36
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal 268 Andrew Collins Author 23-Jul-18 13:35


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