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I had read it both ways, but the Aya version later, and the LSD version originally, and I believe you are correct.

Thanks for the correction. Hopefully I can make more headway in your book today.

I think you would find the divide pro and con on ethnogens is still here, but it wanes as the older generation passes.
So many things are this way, the ideas we ingrain and embed into practice do not go easily, and often they require time and the roll-out of new generations to be updated!

Marriage has become an updating item over here. Couples can maintain almost separate worldly lives, and yet pursue a spiritual bonding without religious oversight or blessing. It reduces the costs of lawyers and courts, except in the cases of disputed child guardianship.

(The early Jewish nation had no problems this way, but many of America's problems stem from her hugely multi-cultural base. Her own legacy is only about freedom, and from there the culture and meilu are populatio dependent, no unified front to speak of, no overall cohesion.)


Yesterday was an exercise in charging recalcitrant technology. (I almost ended up with a replacement phone!)

Today is new brake pads and an auto battery checking session. And probably 100°F in the shade. Necessitates camping in coffee shops or bakery cafes. Civilization is a helpful item!

Breath is the courser and
Mind is the rider.
~Zoroaster

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The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 3242 Andrew Collins Author 03-Jul-18 17:29
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 469 SallyA 04-Jul-18 19:44
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 443 Andrew Collins Author 04-Jul-18 21:51
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 487 michael seabrook 04-Jul-18 21:56
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 441 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:28
Paranormalist 438 greengirl5 06-Jul-18 00:04
Re: Paranormalist 413 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 22:52
Re: Paranormalist 380 greengirl5 07-Jul-18 23:36
Re: Paranormalist 371 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:44
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 414 michael seabrook 06-Jul-18 20:55
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 413 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 22:59
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 361 michael seabrook 06-Jul-18 23:13
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 369 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:25
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 440 SallyA 05-Jul-18 00:57
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? .. Mod help, please .. 444 SallyA 05-Jul-18 01:27
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? .. Mod help, please .. 423 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:45
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 408 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:42
More snakes 588 Robert Jameson 05-Jul-18 06:26
Re: More snakes 425 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:54
Re: More snakes 382 Robert Jameson 06-Jul-18 13:59
Re: More snakes 391 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:11
Re: More snakes 367 drrayeye 07-Jul-18 00:29
Re: More snakes 376 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:47
Re: More snakes 356 Robert Jameson 08-Jul-18 17:07
Re: the pyramids of Giza, built, how? 369 SallyA 08-Jul-18 23:48
Re: the pyramids of Giza, built, how? 374 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:40
Re: More snakes 362 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:30
Sperm cells and microscopes 399 greengirl5 05-Jul-18 23:41
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" from the Dream Time, her two companions, and her master . . 388 SallyA 06-Jul-18 02:38
Re: Yeti ... are actual, have rather odd eyes and are fast and very capable 377 SallyA 06-Jul-18 02:49
Re: Yeti ... source page: 373 SallyA 06-Jul-18 03:05
Re: Yeti ... source page: 374 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:24
Re: Yeti ... are actual, have rather odd eyes and are fast and very capable 369 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:26
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" from the Dream Time, her two companions, and her master . . 391 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:23
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" ... images of House of Sokar . . 3 serpents as on Gobekli pillar: 371 SallyA 17-Jul-18 18:14
Re: O.T., . . Looking for the BIG picture, the temporal ghestalts . . 404 SallyA 17-Jul-18 19:12
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" ... images of House of Sokar . . 3 serpents as on Gobekli pillar: 358 Andrew Collins Author 23-Jul-18 13:27
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" ... images of House of Sokar . . 3 serpents as on Gobekli pillar: 536 SallyA 24-Jul-18 16:57
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 377 Robert Jameson 06-Jul-18 14:02
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 365 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:27
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 347 michael seabrook 08-Jul-18 07:22
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 349 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:51
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 358 michael seabrook 08-Jul-18 07:02
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 358 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:53
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 368 Robert Jameson 08-Jul-18 17:49
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 351 SallyA 09-Jul-18 00:20
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 351 Robert Jameson 09-Jul-18 00:40
Yes, how? 353 greengirl5 09-Jul-18 01:48
Re: Yes, how? 357 Robert Jameson 09-Jul-18 03:17
Re: Yes, how? 354 greengirl5 09-Jul-18 05:35
Re: Yes, how? 380 Robert Jameson 09-Jul-18 12:27
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 355 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:44
Crick, Watson and accuracy . . thank you, amended . . . 344 SallyA 11-Jul-18 16:05
Re: Crick, Watson and accuracy . . thank you, amended . . . 348 Andrew Collins Author 11-Jul-18 17:35
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 363 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:38
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 363 Robert Jameson 10-Jul-18 00:51
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 354 Andrew Collins Author 11-Jul-18 17:38
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 389 Robert Jameson 12-Jul-18 00:02
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 335 Andrew Collins Author 13-Jul-18 22:18
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 374 Robert Jameson 14-Jul-18 01:58
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 377 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:14
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 359 greengirl5 07-Jul-18 14:01
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 356 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:56
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 415 drrayeye 05-Jul-18 06:35
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 401 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:59
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 376 SallyA 06-Jul-18 03:22
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 385 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:40
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: Aesir & Vanir, and . . . 355 SallyA 09-Jul-18 00:32
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: Aesir & Vanir, and . . . 388 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:37
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: Agree 100%, . . Odin from general vicinity of Anatolia . . NM 350 SallyA 10-Jul-18 15:31
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: Agree 100%, . . Odin from general vicinity of Anatolia . . NM 358 Andrew Collins Author 11-Jul-18 17:41
Balanced speculation 363 drrayeye 06-Jul-18 18:38
Re: Balanced speculation 357 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:43
Re: Balanced speculation 378 drrayeye 07-Jul-18 00:22
Re: Balanced speculation 359 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 16:09
The Black Swan 382 Robert Jameson 07-Jul-18 11:36
Re: The Black Swan 372 Robert Jameson 07-Jul-18 23:52
Re: The Black Swan 391 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 16:16
Re: The Black Swan 357 greengirl5 09-Jul-18 02:03
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 377 jazzmumbles 08-Jul-18 03:15
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 360 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 16:25
The Idigna Bird and Kal 378 MDaines 08-Jul-18 16:49
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal 360 SallyA 09-Jul-18 01:07
Kailasa and swans 377 drew 09-Jul-18 02:18
Re: Kailasa and swans 389 SallyA 09-Jul-18 03:23
Re: Kailasa and swans 352 drew 09-Jul-18 03:54
Re: Kailasa . . pardon, rebounding, and centering . . 363 SallyA 09-Jul-18 18:38
Re: Kailasa and swans 385 MDaines 09-Jul-18 07:56
Re: having an author to chat to 359 drew 09-Jul-18 20:53
Re: having an author to chat to 369 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 21:13
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal 363 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 21:03
Late comer..... 376 Itatw70s 10-Jul-18 00:17
Re: Late comer..... 364 Andrew Collins Author 11-Jul-18 17:42
Re: Late comer..... 370 Itatw70s 12-Jul-18 18:20
Re: Late comer..... 345 Andrew Collins Author 13-Jul-18 23:12
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal 405 MDaines 10-Jul-18 08:42
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal 379 SallyA 10-Jul-18 16:32
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal 361 Andrew Collins Author 11-Jul-18 18:07
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal 376 Andrew Collins Author 11-Jul-18 17:58
What's in a name? 388 MDaines 12-Jul-18 10:34
Re: What's in a name? 380 Andrew Collins Author 13-Jul-18 23:08
Re: What's in a name? 363 MDaines 14-Jul-18 07:04
Re: What's in a name? 356 Andrew Collins Author 23-Jul-18 13:30
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal 386 Broker 16-Jul-18 22:17
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal . . and leopards 377 SallyA 19-Jul-18 19:13
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal . . and leopards 369 Andrew Collins Author 23-Jul-18 13:36
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal 362 Andrew Collins Author 23-Jul-18 13:35


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