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I had read it both ways, but the Aya version later, and the LSD version originally, and I believe you are correct.

Thanks for the correction. Hopefully I can make more headway in your book today.

I think you would find the divide pro and con on ethnogens is still here, but it wanes as the older generation passes.
So many things are this way, the ideas we ingrain and embed into practice do not go easily, and often they require time and the roll-out of new generations to be updated!

Marriage has become an updating item over here. Couples can maintain almost separate worldly lives, and yet pursue a spiritual bonding without religious oversight or blessing. It reduces the costs of lawyers and courts, except in the cases of disputed child guardianship.

(The early Jewish nation had no problems this way, but many of America's problems stem from her hugely multi-cultural base. Her own legacy is only about freedom, and from there the culture and meilu are populatio dependent, no unified front to speak of, no overall cohesion.)


Yesterday was an exercise in charging recalcitrant technology. (I almost ended up with a replacement phone!)

Today is new brake pads and an auto battery checking session. And probably 100°F in the shade. Necessitates camping in coffee shops or bakery cafes. Civilization is a helpful item!

Breath is the courser and
Mind is the rider.
~Zoroaster

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The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 2716 Andrew Collins Author 03-Jul-18 17:29
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 394 SallyA 04-Jul-18 19:44
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 381 Andrew Collins Author 04-Jul-18 21:51
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 411 michael seabrook 04-Jul-18 21:56
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 376 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:28
Paranormalist 374 greengirl5 06-Jul-18 00:04
Re: Paranormalist 351 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 22:52
Re: Paranormalist 317 greengirl5 07-Jul-18 23:36
Re: Paranormalist 307 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:44
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 342 michael seabrook 06-Jul-18 20:55
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 346 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 22:59
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 300 michael seabrook 06-Jul-18 23:13
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 305 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:25
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 376 SallyA 05-Jul-18 00:57
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? .. Mod help, please .. 376 SallyA 05-Jul-18 01:27
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? .. Mod help, please .. 357 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:45
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 343 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:42
More snakes 485 Robert Jameson 05-Jul-18 06:26
Re: More snakes 358 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:54
Re: More snakes 315 Robert Jameson 06-Jul-18 13:59
Re: More snakes 322 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:11
Re: More snakes 305 drrayeye 07-Jul-18 00:29
Re: More snakes 310 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:47
Re: More snakes 294 Robert Jameson 08-Jul-18 17:07
Re: the pyramids of Giza, built, how? 307 SallyA 08-Jul-18 23:48
Re: the pyramids of Giza, built, how? 314 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:40
Re: More snakes 303 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:30
Sperm cells and microscopes 336 greengirl5 05-Jul-18 23:41
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" from the Dream Time, her two companions, and her master . . 324 SallyA 06-Jul-18 02:38
Re: Yeti ... are actual, have rather odd eyes and are fast and very capable 308 SallyA 06-Jul-18 02:49
Re: Yeti ... source page: 311 SallyA 06-Jul-18 03:05
Re: Yeti ... source page: 307 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:24
Re: Yeti ... are actual, have rather odd eyes and are fast and very capable 309 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:26
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" from the Dream Time, her two companions, and her master . . 322 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:23
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" ... images of House of Sokar . . 3 serpents as on Gobekli pillar: 307 SallyA 17-Jul-18 18:14
Re: O.T., . . Looking for the BIG picture, the temporal ghestalts . . 331 SallyA 17-Jul-18 19:12
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" ... images of House of Sokar . . 3 serpents as on Gobekli pillar: 291 Andrew Collins Author 23-Jul-18 13:27
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" ... images of House of Sokar . . 3 serpents as on Gobekli pillar: 431 SallyA 24-Jul-18 16:57
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 305 Robert Jameson 06-Jul-18 14:02
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 305 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:27
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 283 michael seabrook 08-Jul-18 07:22
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 292 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:51
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 295 michael seabrook 08-Jul-18 07:02
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 296 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:53
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 292 Robert Jameson 08-Jul-18 17:49
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 285 SallyA 09-Jul-18 00:20
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 286 Robert Jameson 09-Jul-18 00:40
Yes, how? 290 greengirl5 09-Jul-18 01:48
Re: Yes, how? 294 Robert Jameson 09-Jul-18 03:17
Re: Yes, how? 286 greengirl5 09-Jul-18 05:35
Re: Yes, how? 313 Robert Jameson 09-Jul-18 12:27
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 294 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:44
Crick, Watson and accuracy . . thank you, amended . . . 276 SallyA 11-Jul-18 16:05
Re: Crick, Watson and accuracy . . thank you, amended . . . 283 Andrew Collins Author 11-Jul-18 17:35
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 296 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:38
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 301 Robert Jameson 10-Jul-18 00:51
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 289 Andrew Collins Author 11-Jul-18 17:38
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 321 Robert Jameson 12-Jul-18 00:02
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 273 Andrew Collins Author 13-Jul-18 22:18
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 296 Robert Jameson 14-Jul-18 01:58
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 314 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:14
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 296 greengirl5 07-Jul-18 14:01
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 292 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:56
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 354 drrayeye 05-Jul-18 06:35
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 338 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:59
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 312 SallyA 06-Jul-18 03:22
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 320 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:40
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: Aesir & Vanir, and . . . 293 SallyA 09-Jul-18 00:32
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: Aesir & Vanir, and . . . 324 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:37
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: Agree 100%, . . Odin from general vicinity of Anatolia . . NM 283 SallyA 10-Jul-18 15:31
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: Agree 100%, . . Odin from general vicinity of Anatolia . . NM 289 Andrew Collins Author 11-Jul-18 17:41
Balanced speculation 301 drrayeye 06-Jul-18 18:38
Re: Balanced speculation 295 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:43
Re: Balanced speculation 310 drrayeye 07-Jul-18 00:22
Re: Balanced speculation 297 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 16:09
The Black Swan 321 Robert Jameson 07-Jul-18 11:36
Re: The Black Swan 310 Robert Jameson 07-Jul-18 23:52
Re: The Black Swan 331 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 16:16
Re: The Black Swan 298 greengirl5 09-Jul-18 02:03
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 305 jazzmumbles 08-Jul-18 03:15
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 295 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 16:25
The Idigna Bird and Kal 317 MDaines 08-Jul-18 16:49
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal 297 SallyA 09-Jul-18 01:07
Kailasa and swans 311 drew 09-Jul-18 02:18
Re: Kailasa and swans 313 SallyA 09-Jul-18 03:23
Re: Kailasa and swans 290 drew 09-Jul-18 03:54
Re: Kailasa . . pardon, rebounding, and centering . . 300 SallyA 09-Jul-18 18:38
Re: Kailasa and swans 319 MDaines 09-Jul-18 07:56
Re: having an author to chat to 299 drew 09-Jul-18 20:53
Re: having an author to chat to 305 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 21:13
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal 303 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 21:03
Late comer..... 315 Itatw70s 10-Jul-18 00:17
Re: Late comer..... 298 Andrew Collins Author 11-Jul-18 17:42
Re: Late comer..... 293 Itatw70s 12-Jul-18 18:20
Re: Late comer..... 278 Andrew Collins Author 13-Jul-18 23:12
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal 338 MDaines 10-Jul-18 08:42
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal 315 SallyA 10-Jul-18 16:32
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal 297 Andrew Collins Author 11-Jul-18 18:07
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal 313 Andrew Collins Author 11-Jul-18 17:58
What's in a name? 325 MDaines 12-Jul-18 10:34
Re: What's in a name? 313 Andrew Collins Author 13-Jul-18 23:08
Re: What's in a name? 297 MDaines 14-Jul-18 07:04
Re: What's in a name? 283 Andrew Collins Author 23-Jul-18 13:30
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal 311 Broker 16-Jul-18 22:17
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal . . and leopards 297 SallyA 19-Jul-18 19:13
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal . . and leopards 301 Andrew Collins Author 23-Jul-18 13:36
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal 298 Andrew Collins Author 23-Jul-18 13:35


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