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I had read it both ways, but the Aya version later, and the LSD version originally, and I believe you are correct.

Thanks for the correction. Hopefully I can make more headway in your book today.

I think you would find the divide pro and con on ethnogens is still here, but it wanes as the older generation passes.
So many things are this way, the ideas we ingrain and embed into practice do not go easily, and often they require time and the roll-out of new generations to be updated!

Marriage has become an updating item over here. Couples can maintain almost separate worldly lives, and yet pursue a spiritual bonding without religious oversight or blessing. It reduces the costs of lawyers and courts, except in the cases of disputed child guardianship.

(The early Jewish nation had no problems this way, but many of America's problems stem from her hugely multi-cultural base. Her own legacy is only about freedom, and from there the culture and meilu are populatio dependent, no unified front to speak of, no overall cohesion.)


Yesterday was an exercise in charging recalcitrant technology. (I almost ended up with a replacement phone!)

Today is new brake pads and an auto battery checking session. And probably 100°F in the shade. Necessitates camping in coffee shops or bakery cafes. Civilization is a helpful item!

Breath is the courser and
Mind is the rider.
~Zoroaster

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The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 3341 Andrew Collins Author 03-Jul-18 17:29
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 500 SallyA 04-Jul-18 19:44
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 478 Andrew Collins Author 04-Jul-18 21:51
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 530 michael seabrook 04-Jul-18 21:56
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 479 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:28
Paranormalist 463 greengirl5 06-Jul-18 00:04
Re: Paranormalist 448 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 22:52
Re: Paranormalist 416 greengirl5 07-Jul-18 23:36
Re: Paranormalist 407 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:44
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 452 michael seabrook 06-Jul-18 20:55
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 440 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 22:59
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 386 michael seabrook 06-Jul-18 23:13
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 406 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:25
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 476 SallyA 05-Jul-18 00:57
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? .. Mod help, please .. 480 SallyA 05-Jul-18 01:27
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? .. Mod help, please .. 448 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:45
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 443 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:42
More snakes 640 Robert Jameson 05-Jul-18 06:26
Re: More snakes 461 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:54
Re: More snakes 408 Robert Jameson 06-Jul-18 13:59
Re: More snakes 416 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:11
Re: More snakes 391 drrayeye 07-Jul-18 00:29
Re: More snakes 411 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:47
Re: More snakes 381 Robert Jameson 08-Jul-18 17:07
Re: the pyramids of Giza, built, how? 404 SallyA 08-Jul-18 23:48
Re: the pyramids of Giza, built, how? 408 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:40
Re: More snakes 397 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:30
Sperm cells and microscopes 440 greengirl5 05-Jul-18 23:41
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" from the Dream Time, her two companions, and her master . . 425 SallyA 06-Jul-18 02:38
Re: Yeti ... are actual, have rather odd eyes and are fast and very capable 401 SallyA 06-Jul-18 02:49
Re: Yeti ... source page: 397 SallyA 06-Jul-18 03:05
Re: Yeti ... source page: 410 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:24
Re: Yeti ... are actual, have rather odd eyes and are fast and very capable 394 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:26
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" from the Dream Time, her two companions, and her master . . 426 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:23
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" ... images of House of Sokar . . 3 serpents as on Gobekli pillar: 412 SallyA 17-Jul-18 18:14
Re: O.T., . . Looking for the BIG picture, the temporal ghestalts . . 431 SallyA 17-Jul-18 19:12
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" ... images of House of Sokar . . 3 serpents as on Gobekli pillar: 394 Andrew Collins Author 23-Jul-18 13:27
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" ... images of House of Sokar . . 3 serpents as on Gobekli pillar: 584 SallyA 24-Jul-18 16:57
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 417 Robert Jameson 06-Jul-18 14:02
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 388 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:27
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 371 michael seabrook 08-Jul-18 07:22
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 387 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:51
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 383 michael seabrook 08-Jul-18 07:02
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 380 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:53
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 402 Robert Jameson 08-Jul-18 17:49
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 390 SallyA 09-Jul-18 00:20
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 378 Robert Jameson 09-Jul-18 00:40
Yes, how? 378 greengirl5 09-Jul-18 01:48
Re: Yes, how? 391 Robert Jameson 09-Jul-18 03:17
Re: Yes, how? 390 greengirl5 09-Jul-18 05:35
Re: Yes, how? 418 Robert Jameson 09-Jul-18 12:27
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 390 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:44
Crick, Watson and accuracy . . thank you, amended . . . 384 SallyA 11-Jul-18 16:05
Re: Crick, Watson and accuracy . . thank you, amended . . . 371 Andrew Collins Author 11-Jul-18 17:35
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 398 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:38
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 389 Robert Jameson 10-Jul-18 00:51
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 389 Andrew Collins Author 11-Jul-18 17:38
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 414 Robert Jameson 12-Jul-18 00:02
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 359 Andrew Collins Author 13-Jul-18 22:18
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 400 Robert Jameson 14-Jul-18 01:58
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 415 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:14
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 384 greengirl5 07-Jul-18 14:01
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 394 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:56
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 452 drrayeye 05-Jul-18 06:35
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 439 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:59
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 413 SallyA 06-Jul-18 03:22
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 413 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:40
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: Aesir & Vanir, and . . . 388 SallyA 09-Jul-18 00:32
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: Aesir & Vanir, and . . . 425 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:37
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: Agree 100%, . . Odin from general vicinity of Anatolia . . NM 379 SallyA 10-Jul-18 15:31
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: Agree 100%, . . Odin from general vicinity of Anatolia . . NM 395 Andrew Collins Author 11-Jul-18 17:41
Balanced speculation 389 drrayeye 06-Jul-18 18:38
Re: Balanced speculation 381 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:43
Re: Balanced speculation 413 drrayeye 07-Jul-18 00:22
Re: Balanced speculation 382 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 16:09
The Black Swan 418 Robert Jameson 07-Jul-18 11:36
Re: The Black Swan 397 Robert Jameson 07-Jul-18 23:52
Re: The Black Swan 412 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 16:16
Re: The Black Swan 383 greengirl5 09-Jul-18 02:03
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 412 jazzmumbles 08-Jul-18 03:15
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 398 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 16:25
The Idigna Bird and Kal 400 MDaines 08-Jul-18 16:49
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal 399 SallyA 09-Jul-18 01:07
Kailasa and swans 414 drew 09-Jul-18 02:18
Re: Kailasa and swans 430 SallyA 09-Jul-18 03:23
Re: Kailasa and swans 393 drew 09-Jul-18 03:54
Re: Kailasa . . pardon, rebounding, and centering . . 400 SallyA 09-Jul-18 18:38
Re: Kailasa and swans 420 MDaines 09-Jul-18 07:56
Re: having an author to chat to 387 drew 09-Jul-18 20:53
Re: having an author to chat to 408 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 21:13
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal 399 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 21:03
Late comer..... 411 Itatw70s 10-Jul-18 00:17
Re: Late comer..... 389 Andrew Collins Author 11-Jul-18 17:42
Re: Late comer..... 409 Itatw70s 12-Jul-18 18:20
Re: Late comer..... 382 Andrew Collins Author 13-Jul-18 23:12
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal 431 MDaines 10-Jul-18 08:42
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal 414 SallyA 10-Jul-18 16:32
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal 397 Andrew Collins Author 11-Jul-18 18:07
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal 402 Andrew Collins Author 11-Jul-18 17:58
What's in a name? 411 MDaines 12-Jul-18 10:34
Re: What's in a name? 406 Andrew Collins Author 13-Jul-18 23:08
Re: What's in a name? 401 MDaines 14-Jul-18 07:04
Re: What's in a name? 393 Andrew Collins Author 23-Jul-18 13:30
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal 413 Broker 16-Jul-18 22:17
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal . . and leopards 420 SallyA 19-Jul-18 19:13
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal . . and leopards 409 Andrew Collins Author 23-Jul-18 13:36
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal 399 Andrew Collins Author 23-Jul-18 13:35


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