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I had read it both ways, but the Aya version later, and the LSD version originally, and I believe you are correct.

Thanks for the correction. Hopefully I can make more headway in your book today.

I think you would find the divide pro and con on ethnogens is still here, but it wanes as the older generation passes.
So many things are this way, the ideas we ingrain and embed into practice do not go easily, and often they require time and the roll-out of new generations to be updated!

Marriage has become an updating item over here. Couples can maintain almost separate worldly lives, and yet pursue a spiritual bonding without religious oversight or blessing. It reduces the costs of lawyers and courts, except in the cases of disputed child guardianship.

(The early Jewish nation had no problems this way, but many of America's problems stem from her hugely multi-cultural base. Her own legacy is only about freedom, and from there the culture and meilu are populatio dependent, no unified front to speak of, no overall cohesion.)


Yesterday was an exercise in charging recalcitrant technology. (I almost ended up with a replacement phone!)

Today is new brake pads and an auto battery checking session. And probably 100°F in the shade. Necessitates camping in coffee shops or bakery cafes. Civilization is a helpful item!

Breath is the courser and
Mind is the rider.
~Zoroaster

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The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 3167 Andrew Collins Author 03-Jul-18 17:29
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 429 SallyA 04-Jul-18 19:44
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 414 Andrew Collins Author 04-Jul-18 21:51
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 452 michael seabrook 04-Jul-18 21:56
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 410 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:28
Paranormalist 407 greengirl5 06-Jul-18 00:04
Re: Paranormalist 387 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 22:52
Re: Paranormalist 351 greengirl5 07-Jul-18 23:36
Re: Paranormalist 341 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:44
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 377 michael seabrook 06-Jul-18 20:55
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 384 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 22:59
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 334 michael seabrook 06-Jul-18 23:13
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 336 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:25
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 409 SallyA 05-Jul-18 00:57
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? .. Mod help, please .. 414 SallyA 05-Jul-18 01:27
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? .. Mod help, please .. 391 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:45
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 377 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:42
More snakes 541 Robert Jameson 05-Jul-18 06:26
Re: More snakes 392 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:54
Re: More snakes 351 Robert Jameson 06-Jul-18 13:59
Re: More snakes 358 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:11
Re: More snakes 337 drrayeye 07-Jul-18 00:29
Re: More snakes 347 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:47
Re: More snakes 327 Robert Jameson 08-Jul-18 17:07
Re: the pyramids of Giza, built, how? 340 SallyA 08-Jul-18 23:48
Re: the pyramids of Giza, built, how? 345 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:40
Re: More snakes 335 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:30
Sperm cells and microscopes 367 greengirl5 05-Jul-18 23:41
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" from the Dream Time, her two companions, and her master . . 356 SallyA 06-Jul-18 02:38
Re: Yeti ... are actual, have rather odd eyes and are fast and very capable 345 SallyA 06-Jul-18 02:49
Re: Yeti ... source page: 345 SallyA 06-Jul-18 03:05
Re: Yeti ... source page: 344 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:24
Re: Yeti ... are actual, have rather odd eyes and are fast and very capable 343 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:26
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" from the Dream Time, her two companions, and her master . . 363 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:23
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" ... images of House of Sokar . . 3 serpents as on Gobekli pillar: 340 SallyA 17-Jul-18 18:14
Re: O.T., . . Looking for the BIG picture, the temporal ghestalts . . 366 SallyA 17-Jul-18 19:12
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" ... images of House of Sokar . . 3 serpents as on Gobekli pillar: 330 Andrew Collins Author 23-Jul-18 13:27
Re: Serpents, "THE Serpent of Creation" ... images of House of Sokar . . 3 serpents as on Gobekli pillar: 490 SallyA 24-Jul-18 16:57
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 345 Robert Jameson 06-Jul-18 14:02
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 338 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:27
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 314 michael seabrook 08-Jul-18 07:22
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 323 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:51
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 328 michael seabrook 08-Jul-18 07:02
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 331 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:53
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 338 Robert Jameson 08-Jul-18 17:49
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 323 SallyA 09-Jul-18 00:20
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 318 Robert Jameson 09-Jul-18 00:40
Yes, how? 321 greengirl5 09-Jul-18 01:48
Re: Yes, how? 327 Robert Jameson 09-Jul-18 03:17
Re: Yes, how? 321 greengirl5 09-Jul-18 05:35
Re: Yes, how? 348 Robert Jameson 09-Jul-18 12:27
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 326 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:44
Crick, Watson and accuracy . . thank you, amended . . . 312 SallyA 11-Jul-18 16:05
Re: Crick, Watson and accuracy . . thank you, amended . . . 317 Andrew Collins Author 11-Jul-18 17:35
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 329 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:38
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 333 Robert Jameson 10-Jul-18 00:51
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 321 Andrew Collins Author 11-Jul-18 17:38
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 360 Robert Jameson 12-Jul-18 00:02
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 305 Andrew Collins Author 13-Jul-18 22:18
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 335 Robert Jameson 14-Jul-18 01:58
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 344 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:14
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 329 greengirl5 07-Jul-18 14:01
Re: Sperm cells and microscopes 326 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 15:56
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 384 drrayeye 05-Jul-18 06:35
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 370 Andrew Collins Author 05-Jul-18 21:59
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 346 SallyA 06-Jul-18 03:22
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 356 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:40
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: Aesir & Vanir, and . . . 325 SallyA 09-Jul-18 00:32
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: Aesir & Vanir, and . . . 359 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 20:37
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: Agree 100%, . . Odin from general vicinity of Anatolia . . NM 318 SallyA 10-Jul-18 15:31
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: Agree 100%, . . Odin from general vicinity of Anatolia . . NM 326 Andrew Collins Author 11-Jul-18 17:41
Balanced speculation 334 drrayeye 06-Jul-18 18:38
Re: Balanced speculation 326 Andrew Collins Author 06-Jul-18 23:43
Re: Balanced speculation 350 drrayeye 07-Jul-18 00:22
Re: Balanced speculation 330 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 16:09
The Black Swan 355 Robert Jameson 07-Jul-18 11:36
Re: The Black Swan 344 Robert Jameson 07-Jul-18 23:52
Re: The Black Swan 364 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 16:16
Re: The Black Swan 330 greengirl5 09-Jul-18 02:03
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 346 jazzmumbles 08-Jul-18 03:15
Re: The Denisovan Legacy: the True Origins of Civilization? 330 Andrew Collins Author 08-Jul-18 16:25
The Idigna Bird and Kal 348 MDaines 08-Jul-18 16:49
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal 331 SallyA 09-Jul-18 01:07
Kailasa and swans 346 drew 09-Jul-18 02:18
Re: Kailasa and swans 351 SallyA 09-Jul-18 03:23
Re: Kailasa and swans 321 drew 09-Jul-18 03:54
Re: Kailasa . . pardon, rebounding, and centering . . 335 SallyA 09-Jul-18 18:38
Re: Kailasa and swans 355 MDaines 09-Jul-18 07:56
Re: having an author to chat to 331 drew 09-Jul-18 20:53
Re: having an author to chat to 338 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 21:13
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal 334 Andrew Collins Author 09-Jul-18 21:03
Late comer..... 348 Itatw70s 10-Jul-18 00:17
Re: Late comer..... 335 Andrew Collins Author 11-Jul-18 17:42
Re: Late comer..... 334 Itatw70s 12-Jul-18 18:20
Re: Late comer..... 314 Andrew Collins Author 13-Jul-18 23:12
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal 375 MDaines 10-Jul-18 08:42
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal 351 SallyA 10-Jul-18 16:32
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal 334 Andrew Collins Author 11-Jul-18 18:07
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal 348 Andrew Collins Author 11-Jul-18 17:58
What's in a name? 357 MDaines 12-Jul-18 10:34
Re: What's in a name? 349 Andrew Collins Author 13-Jul-18 23:08
Re: What's in a name? 333 MDaines 14-Jul-18 07:04
Re: What's in a name? 322 Andrew Collins Author 23-Jul-18 13:30
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal 348 Broker 16-Jul-18 22:17
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal . . and leopards 339 SallyA 19-Jul-18 19:13
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal . . and leopards 335 Andrew Collins Author 23-Jul-18 13:36
Re: The Idigna Bird and Kal 331 Andrew Collins Author 23-Jul-18 13:35


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