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judecurrivan Wrote:

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> Dear Mark,

>

> my apologies for misunderstanding your point.

>

> I'm not aware of a clear link between Fibonacci

> and the Long Count - do you have any links?

>

> warmest regards,

>

> Jude

Not a problem Jude

I don't have any links, because this is my own work, but I just made one, so here goes...

Per our previous discussion we are in general agreement that the Fibonacci is stongly related to the theme of renewal, as are fractal numbers, of course. My point, is that the Long Count is a superb metaphor for renewal, paradoxially expressed in Hindu-Arabic/Julian-Gregorian/Fibonacci-Phi terms.

For where we are going, just so you know, I sidestep the whole matter of zero being the 'zeroeth' Fibonacci number rather than the first. That aside, we can all be in agreement that it is the first number in the

Here's the overlay, when the Fib Sequence is viewed alongside the recently-concluded Long Count which ran from 3114BC to 2012:

The paradox - It is accepted that the Mayans finished the Long Count no later than 100 BC and worked with an entirely different number system and calendars other than the ones that became the planetary choice much, much later, and are seen in this alignment - Hindu-Arabic base-10, Julian-Gregorian time-keeping.

Furthermore, the Long Count consists of 13 baktuns of 144,000 days each, and here we have two Fibonacci numbers, 13 and 144. Far more interesting, in my opinion, is that the 12th baktun changed over to the final 13th baktun in 1618, which provides a perfect Phi-friendly string which in turn is derivative of the Fibonacci. As you probably know, the Fibonacci wasn't even introduced to Europe until 1202AD - more than a thousand years after the Long Count was finished.

Historically speaking, this point ca1618

As such, the year of the transition's start, 1618, expressed in modern,

As if that weren't enough, at the transition point, where the 12th and 13th baktuns are seen to correlate to 89 and 144, we have another superb renewal-based association

The key is in 89's inverse, expressed in decimal form 1/89 is a 44-digit infinitely repeating string that features the first six Fibonancci sequence numbers at its very front end- against a chance expectation of 1-in-one million (1/10 x 1/10 x 1/10 x 1/10 x 1/10 x 1/10). For this reason I would say that 89 is a

In my opinion this is an excellent example of synchronicity, and part of the reason I feel that way is not just because the symbolic associations are relevant - relevant when Phi-Fib is seen to be about renewal - but also

To your own work, Jude, I'm wondering what you make of this. At the personal level, your book has me flirting with the idea of time-space-location-when being something that can bend according to certain perceptual conditions, in a way that causes syncs. That sounds possible if only in theory, since quantum theory acknowledges that we determine what we observe to some degree. This example, being of a most macro nature, takes the discussion of syncs to a new level. Anything to say on this, I ask, adding that I'm presently in chapter four!

All of this stands independently of the work of John Major Jenkins who, as you may know, identified the Long Count's turning in 'As Above-So Below' terms. The highlights of his work are worth a read, if you haven't learned of them already.

Mark

Edited 7 time(s). Last edit at 25-Nov-17 20:46 by Poster Boy.

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> Dear Mark,

>

> my apologies for misunderstanding your point.

>

> I'm not aware of a clear link between Fibonacci

> and the Long Count - do you have any links?

>

> warmest regards,

>

> Jude

Not a problem Jude

I don't have any links, because this is my own work, but I just made one, so here goes...

Per our previous discussion we are in general agreement that the Fibonacci is stongly related to the theme of renewal, as are fractal numbers, of course. My point, is that the Long Count is a superb metaphor for renewal, paradoxially expressed in Hindu-Arabic/Julian-Gregorian/Fibonacci-Phi terms.

For where we are going, just so you know, I sidestep the whole matter of zero being the 'zeroeth' Fibonacci number rather than the first. That aside, we can all be in agreement that it is the first number in the

**Fibonacci sequence,**when the sequence starts at zero, which is the modern convention.Here's the overlay, when the Fib Sequence is viewed alongside the recently-concluded Long Count which ran from 3114BC to 2012:

The paradox - It is accepted that the Mayans finished the Long Count no later than 100 BC and worked with an entirely different number system and calendars other than the ones that became the planetary choice much, much later, and are seen in this alignment - Hindu-Arabic base-10, Julian-Gregorian time-keeping.

Furthermore, the Long Count consists of 13 baktuns of 144,000 days each, and here we have two Fibonacci numbers, 13 and 144. Far more interesting, in my opinion, is that the 12th baktun changed over to the final 13th baktun in 1618, which provides a perfect Phi-friendly string which in turn is derivative of the Fibonacci. As you probably know, the Fibonacci wasn't even introduced to Europe until 1202AD - more than a thousand years after the Long Count was finished.

Historically speaking, this point ca1618

*very*succinctly coincides with the genesis of Humanity's latest great transformation - the dawning of the ages of science and reason. The transformation about Humanity which is what the Long Count Calendar is said to be about. This configuration makes the case that the Long Count is relevant despite what would happen on Dec 21 2012 or in 2012. The transformation is clearly underway, and the earliest signs of what to come should appear around 1618, just as the earliest autumn leaves appear in late summer - cyclical reasoning runs throughout Mayan philosophy.As such, the year of the transition's start, 1618, expressed in modern,

**non**-Mayan terms, yet terms that are relevant when the Long Count turned, superbly correlates to the final baktun's significance, as a time of*great renewal of humanity*that accords with the Fib-Phi's significance.As if that weren't enough, at the transition point, where the 12th and 13th baktuns are seen to correlate to 89 and 144, we have another superb renewal-based association

*through the appearance of 89*.The key is in 89's inverse, expressed in decimal form 1/89 is a 44-digit infinitely repeating string that features the first six Fibonancci sequence numbers at its very front end- against a chance expectation of 1-in-one million (1/10 x 1/10 x 1/10 x 1/10 x 1/10 x 1/10). For this reason I would say that 89 is a

*self-reflecting*Fibonacci number,*a superior metaphor for renewal*compared to most Fib numbers. Furthermore, the number 89 sits in the exact middle of this string, which amounts to a 1-in-100 chance outcome:**011235**955056179775280**89**887640449438202247191In my opinion this is an excellent example of synchronicity, and part of the reason I feel that way is not just because the symbolic associations are relevant - relevant when Phi-Fib is seen to be about renewal - but also

*indicative of an organizing principle that defies mundane cause and effect*. The Long Count IS a metaphor for synchronicity, imo.To your own work, Jude, I'm wondering what you make of this. At the personal level, your book has me flirting with the idea of time-space-location-when being something that can bend according to certain perceptual conditions, in a way that causes syncs. That sounds possible if only in theory, since quantum theory acknowledges that we determine what we observe to some degree. This example, being of a most macro nature, takes the discussion of syncs to a new level. Anything to say on this, I ask, adding that I'm presently in chapter four!

All of this stands independently of the work of John Major Jenkins who, as you may know, identified the Long Count's turning in 'As Above-So Below' terms. The highlights of his work are worth a read, if you haven't learned of them already.

Mark

Edited 7 time(s). Last edit at 25-Nov-17 20:46 by Poster Boy.

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