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Bruce Fenton: Thank you for your response, I must admit to being disappointed to see that you have largely evaded my responses to your initial post and moved away into what seems to be personal religious convictions - divorced from any reasonable science based debate.

Sorry if you thought I was pushing a religious concept – that is certainly not the case.

From my book; 'Bali to Bairnsdale Alignment and Earth’s Reproductive Chakra', Author Intro, p5

Author Intro:

Not all who read this treatise will regard it as credible or share my belief in a creator-being. And I realise many are justifiably suspicious of people who express unconventional views on what might be our meaning and purpose in life. So before presenting it, I would like to clarify some important issues…

First is that this work does not attempt to promote a religious faith nor seek to recruit people to any community of believers. I do not claim to have had a revelation from God, to be his messenger, to be called to do his work, to lead his people or to be motivated by any such aspirations.


Also; I do not take ownership of the God Gametes concept and, where possible, when writing my books I have not used any of the first person personal pronouns; (i.e. I, me, my, mine etc.). I have tried countless times to develop my thesis on university campus. Unfortunately however, as soon as I mention that my concept does not follow the gradualist evolutionary paradigm, I get pointed to the door.
Yes, I use God in the title of my book (and for the name of the concept). I suppose I could have called my book ‘Fred’s Gametes Theory’. That way I would not have had to wear the label ‘Jesus freak’ – but the title may have been a little confusing.

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Bruce Fenton: The London Hammer is a great example of my earlier scepticism, it absolutely matches my given reason for why so many out of place artefacts are easily dismissed or ignored.

Thank you for your comments re the London Hammer. Yes I guess there are a lot of these ancient artefacts that have doubt as to their authenticity. The last thing I want is to quote sources that are not reliable. As mentioned earlier I would have liked to have written up my thesis on university campus. Unfortunately my research and writing has not been under the tutelage of professional academics – and work and family commitments has always demanded priority on my time and financial resources.

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Bruce Fenton: I feel you are deliberately shifting the goal posts by pointing me towards evidence of technology in ancient Egypt or briefly mentioning Gobekli Tepe as evidence of ancient civilisation. The megaliths of the Giza plateau and Aswan, along with those of Gobekli Tepe, are all well dated to the known historical period - that is the last 12,000 years. Nobody has any problem with their being civilisations in that period, or there being widespread evidence of civilisations and advanced technology in that period.

I am not disputing that there were earlier advanced civilisations. The point re machining on the Giza plateau and Aswan is that the technology is so advanced that even today we cannot match it. There is a lot that could be said in support of this claim but I am sure readers of this post are familiar with the work of Christopher Dunn and many others who deal with ancient advanced technology. If not, please contemplate how, pre iron age and pre the invention of the wheel, these ancient people planned to transport a 1,200 tonne obelisk.

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Bruce Fenton: I think you skirted around answering my point about 50,000 years being plenty of time for Australian Aboriginal people to build boats and migrate.

You are probably correct here. Sorry if I do not debate at length the considerable data you present in support of your case – I just do not believe it. I lived and worked on the Aboriginal Pitjantjatjara Home Lands in the north west of South Australia for 3 years. While I have great affection, and great admiration, for the Australian Aboriginal people I do not see them as having the technical knowhow, or the desire, to navigate the world’s oceans. As mentioned in my earlier post the claim that the Australian Aboriginal people sailed the oceans seem to be based on rock art that is of unknown origin and disputed authenticity.

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Bruce Fenton: Your argument sounds to me like a religious one, in which case I am trying to have a reasonable scientific conversation with a religious zealot, which is absolute futile because religious thinking never requires a scientific basis and manipulates data as it suits. I think I am now understanding that you are promoting not so much a 'God Gametes Theory' as a 'God Gametes Religion' - I suppose I should have known the moment 'God' was brought into this conversation, it would likely not end well.

The above is just one of a litany of personal attacks on me in your post. I am reluctant to respond in kind – suffice is to say that it would be far better if you, when having your views challenged, would address the topic rather than attack the person.

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The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 4566 Bruce R. Fenton 01-Jun-17 11:19
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 1080 Susan Doris 02-Jun-17 05:45
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 816 Bruce R. Fenton 02-Jun-17 06:56
Related threads on GHMB 884 drrayeye 02-Jun-17 17:06
Re: Related threads on GHMB 719 Bruce R. Fenton 03-Jun-17 10:19
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 758 laughin 05-Jun-17 21:06
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 745 Bruce R. Fenton 06-Jun-17 04:03
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 747 SallyA 07-Jun-17 02:28
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 633 Bruce R. Fenton 07-Jun-17 04:40
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 954 Thanos5150 06-Jun-17 14:29
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 763 SallyA 07-Jun-17 02:55
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 713 Bruce R. Fenton 07-Jun-17 05:47
... 745 SallyA 08-Jun-17 04:00
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution ..-_-.. question one 659 Bruce R. Fenton 08-Jun-17 04:37
... 753 SallyA 08-Jun-17 06:51
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 640 Thanos5150 07-Jun-17 16:15
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 773 Thanos5150 07-Jun-17 19:38
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 737 Bruce R. Fenton 08-Jun-17 03:20
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 623 Bruce R. Fenton 07-Jun-17 05:33
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 949 Thanos5150 07-Jun-17 16:08
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 679 SallyA 08-Jun-17 05:17
... 754 SallyA 08-Jun-17 06:06
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 722 Bruce R. Fenton 09-Jun-17 02:19
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution -- thank you 682 SallyA 09-Jun-17 03:47
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 839 Thanos5150 11-Jun-17 16:13
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 617 Bruce R. Fenton 12-Jun-17 09:26
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 649 Bruce R. Fenton 09-Jun-17 02:03
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 730 Thanos5150 09-Jun-17 23:54
OOA strikes back - the sequel 778 laughin 08-Jun-17 13:09
Re: OOA strikes back - the sequel 677 Bruce R. Fenton 08-Jun-17 15:37
Re: OOA strikes back - the sequel 679 Thanos5150 08-Jun-17 17:23
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 661 Robert Jameson 11-Jun-17 06:13
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 663 Bruce R. Fenton 11-Jun-17 11:46
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 812 Robert Jameson 12-Jun-17 05:34
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 671 dong 12-Jun-17 06:51
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 735 Robert Jameson 12-Jun-17 13:32
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 741 Bruce R. Fenton 12-Jun-17 09:19
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 636 Robert Jameson 12-Jun-17 12:40
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 703 Susan Doris 14-Jun-17 05:02
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 707 Robert Jameson 14-Jun-17 05:45
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 737 michael seabrook 13-Jun-17 22:09
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 742 Robert Jameson 13-Jun-17 00:51
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 641 SallyA 13-Jun-17 01:03
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 619 Robert Jameson 13-Jun-17 02:44
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution. -- off topic .. senmutt tomb. .. Giza hosts an inland sea 812 SallyA 13-Jun-17 02:59
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution. -- off topic .. senmutt tomb 602 Robert Jameson 13-Jun-17 03:39
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution. -- off topic .. senmutt tomb 670 SallyA 13-Jun-17 04:04
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 723 Thanos5150 14-Jun-17 15:55
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 799 Robert Jameson 14-Jun-17 17:54
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 624 michael seabrook 16-Jun-17 21:03
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 642 Robert Jameson 16-Jun-17 22:47
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution Excellent and ... 714 SallyA 16-Jun-17 23:39
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution Excellent and ... 713 Robert Jameson 17-Jun-17 09:44
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 617 Susan Doris 17-Jun-17 14:17
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 680 Robert Jameson 18-Jun-17 02:43
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 635 Susan Doris 18-Jun-17 09:24
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 693 Bruce R. Fenton 18-Jun-17 11:04
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 693 Robert Jameson 18-Jun-17 11:14
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 602 Robert Jameson 18-Jun-17 11:04
Unfair diversion 533 drrayeye 18-Jun-17 21:35
Re: Proto-sumerian ... Ukraine ... a bit late for into Africa I fear, probably mis-posted 799 SallyA 19-Jun-17 03:00
Re: Unfair diversion 730 Susan Doris 19-Jun-17 05:20
Unfair diversion for sure 621 drrayeye 19-Jun-17 05:47
Re: Unfair diversion for sure 679 Susan Doris 20-Jun-17 04:56
Robert's challenge 731 drrayeye 20-Jun-17 07:24
Re: Robert's challenge 615 Robert Jameson 26-Jun-17 11:17
Tangential 607 drrayeye 27-Jun-17 05:03
Re: Tangential 617 Robert Jameson 27-Jun-17 06:12
Wrong board 636 drrayeye 27-Jun-17 06:38
Re: Wrong board 590 Robert Jameson 27-Jun-17 08:03
Re: Tangential 632 Eddie Larry 27-Jun-17 15:59
Re:Susan, do you know of a time line? 636 SallyA 19-Jun-17 17:48
Re: Unfair diversion 699 Thanos5150 19-Jun-17 13:44
Re: Unfair diversion 615 drrayeye 19-Jun-17 15:40
Re: Unfair diversion 728 Robert Jameson 19-Jun-17 23:14
Re: Unfair diversion 626 drrayeye 20-Jun-17 00:31
Re: Unfair diversion 691 Robert Jameson 20-Jun-17 10:19
kicking a dead horse 635 drrayeye 20-Jun-17 14:36
Re: kicking a dead horse 541 Robert Jameson 20-Jun-17 23:49
Staying on topic 624 drrayeye 21-Jun-17 01:15
Re: Unfair diversion 630 Thanos5150 20-Jun-17 15:24
Hominids vs Homo. most obvious difference -- thumbs on feet 563 SallyA 20-Jun-17 15:59
Re: Hominids vs Homo. most obvious difference -- thumbs on feet 532 Bruce R. Fenton 26-Jun-17 10:21
Interesting 612 drrayeye 27-Jun-17 06:50
Re: Interesting 496 Bruce R. Fenton 27-Jun-17 22:32
Re: Hominids vs Homo. most obvious difference -- thumbs on feet 501 Eddie Larry 28-Jun-17 04:37
Re: Hominids vs Homo. most obvious difference -- thumbs on feet 845 Bruce R. Fenton 28-Jun-17 04:41
Re: Unfair diversion 578 drrayeye 20-Jun-17 15:59
Off Topic: re: factors which alter .. Earth's shields don't block cygnets ... nor neutrinos, ... 552 SallyA 20-Jun-17 21:13
Re: Unfair diversion 530 SallyA 21-Jun-17 01:37
Focus 628 drrayeye 21-Jun-17 07:30
Re: Focus 698 Bruce R. Fenton 26-Jun-17 10:26
Re: Focus 599 Susan Doris 26-Jun-17 16:51
Re: Focus... ah, my bad ... 506 SallyA 11-Feb-18 19:40
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 698 Bruce R. Fenton 17-Jun-17 12:12
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 634 Robert Jameson 26-Jun-17 06:32
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 610 Bruce R. Fenton 26-Jun-17 11:57
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 758 Robert Jameson 26-Jun-17 13:59
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 445 lalbee 16-Feb-18 13:39
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 426 lalbee 17-Feb-18 02:25
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 444 Bruce R. Fenton 17-Feb-18 04:13
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 422 lalbee 17-Feb-18 05:56
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 461 Bruce R. Fenton 17-Feb-18 06:27
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 591 lalbee 18-Feb-18 15:17
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 456 drrayeye 21-Feb-18 13:48
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 437 lalbee 22-Feb-18 16:45
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 433 Robert Jameson 22-Feb-18 19:39
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 832 Bruce R. Fenton 22-Feb-18 23:07
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 450 Bruce R. Fenton 22-Feb-18 23:00


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