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Bruce Fenton: Thank you for your response, I must admit to being disappointed to see that you have largely evaded my responses to your initial post and moved away into what seems to be personal religious convictions - divorced from any reasonable science based debate.

Sorry if you thought I was pushing a religious concept – that is certainly not the case.

From my book; 'Bali to Bairnsdale Alignment and Earth’s Reproductive Chakra', Author Intro, p5

Author Intro:

Not all who read this treatise will regard it as credible or share my belief in a creator-being. And I realise many are justifiably suspicious of people who express unconventional views on what might be our meaning and purpose in life. So before presenting it, I would like to clarify some important issues…

First is that this work does not attempt to promote a religious faith nor seek to recruit people to any community of believers. I do not claim to have had a revelation from God, to be his messenger, to be called to do his work, to lead his people or to be motivated by any such aspirations.


Also; I do not take ownership of the God Gametes concept and, where possible, when writing my books I have not used any of the first person personal pronouns; (i.e. I, me, my, mine etc.). I have tried countless times to develop my thesis on university campus. Unfortunately however, as soon as I mention that my concept does not follow the gradualist evolutionary paradigm, I get pointed to the door.
Yes, I use God in the title of my book (and for the name of the concept). I suppose I could have called my book ‘Fred’s Gametes Theory’. That way I would not have had to wear the label ‘Jesus freak’ – but the title may have been a little confusing.

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Bruce Fenton: The London Hammer is a great example of my earlier scepticism, it absolutely matches my given reason for why so many out of place artefacts are easily dismissed or ignored.

Thank you for your comments re the London Hammer. Yes I guess there are a lot of these ancient artefacts that have doubt as to their authenticity. The last thing I want is to quote sources that are not reliable. As mentioned earlier I would have liked to have written up my thesis on university campus. Unfortunately my research and writing has not been under the tutelage of professional academics – and work and family commitments has always demanded priority on my time and financial resources.

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Bruce Fenton: I feel you are deliberately shifting the goal posts by pointing me towards evidence of technology in ancient Egypt or briefly mentioning Gobekli Tepe as evidence of ancient civilisation. The megaliths of the Giza plateau and Aswan, along with those of Gobekli Tepe, are all well dated to the known historical period - that is the last 12,000 years. Nobody has any problem with their being civilisations in that period, or there being widespread evidence of civilisations and advanced technology in that period.

I am not disputing that there were earlier advanced civilisations. The point re machining on the Giza plateau and Aswan is that the technology is so advanced that even today we cannot match it. There is a lot that could be said in support of this claim but I am sure readers of this post are familiar with the work of Christopher Dunn and many others who deal with ancient advanced technology. If not, please contemplate how, pre iron age and pre the invention of the wheel, these ancient people planned to transport a 1,200 tonne obelisk.

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Bruce Fenton: I think you skirted around answering my point about 50,000 years being plenty of time for Australian Aboriginal people to build boats and migrate.

You are probably correct here. Sorry if I do not debate at length the considerable data you present in support of your case – I just do not believe it. I lived and worked on the Aboriginal Pitjantjatjara Home Lands in the north west of South Australia for 3 years. While I have great affection, and great admiration, for the Australian Aboriginal people I do not see them as having the technical knowhow, or the desire, to navigate the world’s oceans. As mentioned in my earlier post the claim that the Australian Aboriginal people sailed the oceans seem to be based on rock art that is of unknown origin and disputed authenticity.

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Bruce Fenton: Your argument sounds to me like a religious one, in which case I am trying to have a reasonable scientific conversation with a religious zealot, which is absolute futile because religious thinking never requires a scientific basis and manipulates data as it suits. I think I am now understanding that you are promoting not so much a 'God Gametes Theory' as a 'God Gametes Religion' - I suppose I should have known the moment 'God' was brought into this conversation, it would likely not end well.

The above is just one of a litany of personal attacks on me in your post. I am reluctant to respond in kind – suffice is to say that it would be far better if you, when having your views challenged, would address the topic rather than attack the person.

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The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 4440 Bruce R. Fenton 01-Jun-17 11:19
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 967 Susan Doris 02-Jun-17 05:45
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 784 Bruce R. Fenton 02-Jun-17 06:56
Related threads on GHMB 850 drrayeye 02-Jun-17 17:06
Re: Related threads on GHMB 683 Bruce R. Fenton 03-Jun-17 10:19
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 728 laughin 05-Jun-17 21:06
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 698 Bruce R. Fenton 06-Jun-17 04:03
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 714 SallyA 07-Jun-17 02:28
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 603 Bruce R. Fenton 07-Jun-17 04:40
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 880 Thanos5150 06-Jun-17 14:29
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 731 SallyA 07-Jun-17 02:55
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 670 Bruce R. Fenton 07-Jun-17 05:47
... 709 SallyA 08-Jun-17 04:00
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution ..-_-.. question one 629 Bruce R. Fenton 08-Jun-17 04:37
... 708 SallyA 08-Jun-17 06:51
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 609 Thanos5150 07-Jun-17 16:15
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 741 Thanos5150 07-Jun-17 19:38
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 711 Bruce R. Fenton 08-Jun-17 03:20
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 591 Bruce R. Fenton 07-Jun-17 05:33
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 855 Thanos5150 07-Jun-17 16:08
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 646 SallyA 08-Jun-17 05:17
... 717 SallyA 08-Jun-17 06:06
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 689 Bruce R. Fenton 09-Jun-17 02:19
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution -- thank you 649 SallyA 09-Jun-17 03:47
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 774 Thanos5150 11-Jun-17 16:13
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 583 Bruce R. Fenton 12-Jun-17 09:26
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 612 Bruce R. Fenton 09-Jun-17 02:03
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 701 Thanos5150 09-Jun-17 23:54
OOA strikes back - the sequel 745 laughin 08-Jun-17 13:09
Re: OOA strikes back - the sequel 643 Bruce R. Fenton 08-Jun-17 15:37
Re: OOA strikes back - the sequel 648 Thanos5150 08-Jun-17 17:23
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 625 Robert Jameson 11-Jun-17 06:13
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 626 Bruce R. Fenton 11-Jun-17 11:46
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 780 Robert Jameson 12-Jun-17 05:34
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 638 dong 12-Jun-17 06:51
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 689 Robert Jameson 12-Jun-17 13:32
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 704 Bruce R. Fenton 12-Jun-17 09:19
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 606 Robert Jameson 12-Jun-17 12:40
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 675 Susan Doris 14-Jun-17 05:02
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 678 Robert Jameson 14-Jun-17 05:45
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 701 michael seabrook 13-Jun-17 22:09
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 702 Robert Jameson 13-Jun-17 00:51
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 606 SallyA 13-Jun-17 01:03
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 589 Robert Jameson 13-Jun-17 02:44
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution. -- off topic .. senmutt tomb. .. Giza hosts an inland sea 767 SallyA 13-Jun-17 02:59
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution. -- off topic .. senmutt tomb 572 Robert Jameson 13-Jun-17 03:39
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution. -- off topic .. senmutt tomb 629 SallyA 13-Jun-17 04:04
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 688 Thanos5150 14-Jun-17 15:55
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 769 Robert Jameson 14-Jun-17 17:54
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 597 michael seabrook 16-Jun-17 21:03
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 611 Robert Jameson 16-Jun-17 22:47
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution Excellent and ... 680 SallyA 16-Jun-17 23:39
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution Excellent and ... 684 Robert Jameson 17-Jun-17 09:44
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 590 Susan Doris 17-Jun-17 14:17
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 654 Robert Jameson 18-Jun-17 02:43
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 605 Susan Doris 18-Jun-17 09:24
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 662 Bruce R. Fenton 18-Jun-17 11:04
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 657 Robert Jameson 18-Jun-17 11:14
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 572 Robert Jameson 18-Jun-17 11:04
Unfair diversion 500 drrayeye 18-Jun-17 21:35
Re: Proto-sumerian ... Ukraine ... a bit late for into Africa I fear, probably mis-posted 760 SallyA 19-Jun-17 03:00
Re: Unfair diversion 701 Susan Doris 19-Jun-17 05:20
Unfair diversion for sure 589 drrayeye 19-Jun-17 05:47
Re: Unfair diversion for sure 647 Susan Doris 20-Jun-17 04:56
Robert's challenge 675 drrayeye 20-Jun-17 07:24
Re: Robert's challenge 585 Robert Jameson 26-Jun-17 11:17
Tangential 576 drrayeye 27-Jun-17 05:03
Re: Tangential 587 Robert Jameson 27-Jun-17 06:12
Wrong board 605 drrayeye 27-Jun-17 06:38
Re: Wrong board 560 Robert Jameson 27-Jun-17 08:03
Re: Tangential 594 Eddie Larry 27-Jun-17 15:59
Re:Susan, do you know of a time line? 607 SallyA 19-Jun-17 17:48
Re: Unfair diversion 667 Thanos5150 19-Jun-17 13:44
Re: Unfair diversion 582 drrayeye 19-Jun-17 15:40
Re: Unfair diversion 693 Robert Jameson 19-Jun-17 23:14
Re: Unfair diversion 591 drrayeye 20-Jun-17 00:31
Re: Unfair diversion 661 Robert Jameson 20-Jun-17 10:19
kicking a dead horse 606 drrayeye 20-Jun-17 14:36
Re: kicking a dead horse 511 Robert Jameson 20-Jun-17 23:49
Staying on topic 589 drrayeye 21-Jun-17 01:15
Re: Unfair diversion 597 Thanos5150 20-Jun-17 15:24
Hominids vs Homo. most obvious difference -- thumbs on feet 524 SallyA 20-Jun-17 15:59
Re: Hominids vs Homo. most obvious difference -- thumbs on feet 500 Bruce R. Fenton 26-Jun-17 10:21
Interesting 576 drrayeye 27-Jun-17 06:50
Re: Interesting 464 Bruce R. Fenton 27-Jun-17 22:32
Re: Hominids vs Homo. most obvious difference -- thumbs on feet 472 Eddie Larry 28-Jun-17 04:37
Re: Hominids vs Homo. most obvious difference -- thumbs on feet 799 Bruce R. Fenton 28-Jun-17 04:41
Re: Unfair diversion 544 drrayeye 20-Jun-17 15:59
Off Topic: re: factors which alter .. Earth's shields don't block cygnets ... nor neutrinos, ... 517 SallyA 20-Jun-17 21:13
Re: Unfair diversion 494 SallyA 21-Jun-17 01:37
Focus 595 drrayeye 21-Jun-17 07:30
Re: Focus 658 Bruce R. Fenton 26-Jun-17 10:26
Re: Focus 572 Susan Doris 26-Jun-17 16:51
Re: Focus... ah, my bad ... 475 SallyA 11-Feb-18 19:40
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 661 Bruce R. Fenton 17-Jun-17 12:12
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 600 Robert Jameson 26-Jun-17 06:32
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 579 Bruce R. Fenton 26-Jun-17 11:57
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 724 Robert Jameson 26-Jun-17 13:59
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 411 lalbee 16-Feb-18 13:39
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 391 lalbee 17-Feb-18 02:25
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 413 Bruce R. Fenton 17-Feb-18 04:13
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 390 lalbee 17-Feb-18 05:56
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 413 Bruce R. Fenton 17-Feb-18 06:27
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 536 lalbee 18-Feb-18 15:17
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 417 drrayeye 21-Feb-18 13:48
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 401 lalbee 22-Feb-18 16:45
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 398 Robert Jameson 22-Feb-18 19:39
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 755 Bruce R. Fenton 22-Feb-18 23:07
Re: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution 409 Bruce R. Fenton 22-Feb-18 23:00


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