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>>>If we didnt go to the moon, then how can international research groups independent of NASA perform Lunar ranging measurements by bouncing lasers off the mirrors left there by the Apollo missions?

In 1967 - Radar was used to measure distance between the Moon and the Earth

the accuracy was 0.7 of a mile

In 1965....Laser light was reflected from the Moon,
and the distance was measured to within an accuracy of 600ft.

[source - Engineering Physics - I (U.P. Technical University, Lucknow)]

also....

May 9, in 1962, a pulse light laser beam sent by a team of scientists from MIT successfully bounced off the moon, the first lunar laser ranging experiment.



by the way....and this exists on the net/Apollo moon hoax websites,

that NASA flight directors from the Apollo program stated that in Mission control they had no way of knowing if the telemetry was simulation or real.

the very same [compartmentalized] reality can be a program of previous years laser and radar data returns which are written into a program and fed into a recording machine.

the operator has no way of knowing if it is realtime data...or simulation.

You can indeed.....fake the LLLR return data,....having no LLLR on the Moon : )


T Bird



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