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Well, I watched the videos (all of them). The missing plane, the dark plane, the secondary explosion. None of them present convincing evidence that no planes flew into the World Trade Centers as far as I'm concerned.

Take the missing plane. I'm stuck looking at a grainy video that claims the media doctored their video because there are two versions and one doesn't show a plane. Well if a video can be doctored who's to say the one with no plane isn't the doctored video. I'm just supposed to believe this guy and yes I did see other video clips showing no plane but if you notice they are all the same clip just being shown by other people. Sorry, doesn't convince me.


The dark grainy plane. Well there were some videos that showed a dark grainy plane and there wer other videos from a different vantage point that showed a somewhat bright plane. Both are claimed to be fake because of video doctoring since we all know that camea type, angle, distance and vantage point don't ever play any part in how a video comes out. Don't think so.

Secondary explosion. This could be from one of the fuel tanks (there are different fuel tanks on planes i.e. its not all one big tank) exploding at a later time. It could also be that someone redubbed a second explosion onto the film since we can't rule out that the person showing the film didn't doctor it themselves. They are after all not above reproach themselves.

One more thing concerning different camera angles. There is in one of the youtube videos two clips at different angles that show the second plane hitting the second tower. In one the commontater says you can notice the nose of the plane exiting the other side of the tower just before the explosion catches up with it but in the other clip he shows he says you can't see the nose therefore implying the video was faked. The video that you CAN see the nose on is at quite an angle (I'd guess 70 degrees) from the front of the nose whereas the other clip shows an angle that is much closer to being front on to the nose. The 70 degree angle makes the nose much easier to see than the on other clip. However if you take a look at the shadow cast on the building from the protruding nose of the plane on the 70 degree clip and then look at the more "nose on" angled clip you will also notice the exact same shadow on the building caused by the...wait for it...nose of the plane protruding from the face of the second tower. So what does this say, well for one , that the angle of perception can drastically change how something looks.

Sorry Caroline M, but this doesn't change my opinion on the subject.

degiem1


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