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Richard Fusniak wrote
>
> From the link I gave in my previous post you PART QUOTE the
> above. Here's the link again:
>
> Isaac Newton and Astrology. Witness for the Defence or for the
> Prosecution?
> [www.staff.science.uu.nl]
>
> and a fuller context from the Introduction:
>
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However, at the end of the 17th century, the scientific
> community had completely turned away from astrology. For some
> the subject of derision, others preferred to ignore it
> completely – so, hardly a single word on astrology, either pro
> or contra, is to be found in the works of scientists as
> Christiaan Huygens (1629-1695)[2] or Isaac Newton (1642-1727).
>
> However, in the case of Newton, the astrological literature
> presents a different view and even claims that Newton was in
> secret an ardent student of astrology.[3] As evidence the
> following anecdote is often quoted: when the astronomer Edmond
> Halley (1656-1742), of comet fame, once spoke depreciatively on
> the subject of astrology, Newton is said to have berated him
> with the remark: “Sir Halley, I have studied the matter, you
> have not!”
>
> How much value may we store in such a testimony? The first
> questions that should be answered are: what is the source for
> this statement and what evidence is there that Newton ever
> “studied the matter”.
>
>
> We then find this in the section on Newtons Library:
>
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Corroborative evidence on how minimal Newton’s interests
> on astrology really were can be found by inspecting the
> inventory of the books from his library that was made up after
> his death. This inventory has been preserved and in many cases
> even the books themselves, with Newton’s own comments and
> annotations, have been traced to various major libraries.[7]
>
> Among the 1752 books with identifiable titles on this list, no
> less than 477 (27.2%) were on the subject of theology, 169
> (9.6%) on alchemy, 126 (7.2%) on mathematics, 52 (3.0%) on
> physics and only 33 (1.9%) on astronomy. Surprisingly, Newton’s
> books on the disciplines on which his scientific fame rests
> amount to no more than 12% of his library.
>
> At his death, Newton’s library possessed no more than four
> books on the subject of astrology: a work by the German
> astrologer Johann Essler from Mainz (end 15th/begin 16th
> century),[8] a treatise on palmistry and astrology by the
> English doctor/astrologer Richard Saunders (1613-1675),[9] an
> almanac from the same using the pseudonym Cardanus Rider[10]
> and finally a work debunking astrology by the philosopher-poet
> and Cambridge professor Henry More (1614-1687).[11]
>
> And here are the reference notes:
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[7] J. Harrison, The
> Library of Isaac Newton (Cambridge: Cambridge University Press,
> 1978), cf. pp. 58-78.
>
> [8] Ioannis Essler Maguntinus, Tractatus utilis ante LX annos
> conscriptus, cui titulum fecit, Speculum astrologorum ...
> (Basel, 1596; first published in 1508); bound in one volume
> with Georg Peurbach, Theoricæ novæ planetarum. Newton’s
> personal copy, which is presently kept at the Trinity College
> Library at Cambridge, displays no dog-ears, marginal notes, or
> other evident signs of regular use.
>
> [9] R. Saunders, Palmistry, the secrets thereof disclosed; or,
> a familiar, easy and new method, whereby to judge of the most
> general accidents of mans life from the lines of the hand,
> withal its dimentions and significations. As also that most
> useful piece of astrology (long since promised) concerning
> elections for every particular occasion, now plainly manifested
> from rational principles of art, not published till now
> (London: G. Sawbridge, 1663), 2 parts.
>
> [10] C. Rider, Rider’s British Merlin (London, c. 1690).
> Saunder’s pseudonym, chardanus Rider, is an anagram. None of
> Newton’s personal copies of Saunder’s works have been
> preserved.
>
> [11] H. More, Tetractys Anti-Astrologica; or, the four chapters
> in the explanation of the Grand Mystery of Godliness, which
> contain a brief but solid confutation of Judiciary Astrology
> (London, 1681). This is an excerpt from a work published in
> 1660. Again, Newton’s personal copy, which was presented to him
> by the author and which is now kept in the Beinecke Library of
> Rare Books at the Yale University (New Haven), shows no signs
> of regular use.
>
>
> Fuzzy
>
> Post Edited (07-May-13 00:47)

Again Fuzzy,

It seems that you're just not listening, while preferring to be negative and argue irrationally when it is you who has the learning to do.

For one, the mundane astrologer Isaac Newton had plenty of astrological alchemical works, as that is also part of the prescience of Astrology, which Newton himself practiced.

It also appears that living in Cambridge, as you claim, that you haven't been to King's College Library where you will find all the astrological works of Newton. His own manuscripts.

I have long known that Newton was a astrologer. Newton produced texts as he practiced the prescience of Astrology himself, both natural and judicial astrology.

So, I suggest that rather tell Michael that he's wrong (when Michael is right) that you learn to use King's College Library in Cambridge; for that is where you will find proof of Newton's practice as an astrologer.

The facts do not cease to exist simply because you choose to ignore them Richard. Remember that.

Read Newton's works for yourself, since the proof that Newton "studied the matter" and practiced it are found in Newton's own handwriting, his own works.

Again, Richard, I suggest than rather than come off as snooty to others that you actually learn to please first have studied the topic yourself, don't you agree?

See and read Isaac Newton's own manuscripts for yourself if you don't believe me -> [webapp1.dlib.indiana.edu]



Post Edited (07-May-13 01:40)

Theodore White, mundane Astrolog.S

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