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Mark,

One of my personal stumbling blocks, as an experimental scientist, has been the concept of true randomness. The core dilemma one faces is that truly random events sometimes must include non-random components. By chance alone, one must allow the possibility of cards being dealt in a bridge game so that each participant would have all of one suit, in the bidding order of 7 clubs, 7 diamonds, 7 hearts, and 7 spades (which would win the bid and be a lay down).

Now, what if we study rare events--which are believed to be non-random and predictable when they are understood? The established scientific approach is to reject a chance explanation by comparing rare events to random events--except a truly random comparison group might even be more "non-random" than the rare event group!

My solution to that kind of problem has been to redefine "truly random" as "truly unsystematic." Thus, for example, I'd reject bridge hands in which each player got all of one suit as "too systematic" and make it an automatic re-deal.

Something like that is what scientific investigators have been doing for a long time.

Ray

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Re: synchronicity explained? 271 Susan Doris 29-Sep-18 05:40
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Re: The statistics of synchronicities--in science 268 Poster Boy 29-Sep-18 15:56
Re: The statistics of synchronicities--in science 266 drrayeye 29-Sep-18 19:32
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Some possibilities 264 drrayeye 01-Oct-18 09:53
Deconstructing one sync. 269 Poster Boy 01-Oct-18 18:08
Re: Deconstructing one sync. 262 drrayeye 01-Oct-18 19:09
Re: Deconstructing one sync. 265 Poster Boy 01-Oct-18 20:24
Re: Deconstructing one sync. 271 drrayeye 02-Oct-18 00:41
Re: Deconstructing one sync. 268 Poster Boy 02-Oct-18 02:34
Research design 262 drrayeye 02-Oct-18 04:12
Re: Research design 262 Poster Boy 02-Oct-18 04:18
Framing.. Research design 266 Poster Boy 02-Oct-18 20:50
Re: Framing.. Research design 264 Poster Boy 02-Oct-18 23:21
Re: Framing.. Research design 267 Susan Doris 03-Oct-18 04:56
a study of coincidences 258 drrayeye 03-Oct-18 13:24
Re: a study of coincidences 259 Susan Doris 03-Oct-18 15:25
Your scepticism antennae 258 drrayeye 03-Oct-18 19:33
Re: Framing.. Research design 268 Poster Boy 03-Oct-18 16:16
Re: Framing.. Research design 261 Susan Doris 04-Oct-18 07:17
Re: Framing.. Research design 265 Poster Boy 04-Oct-18 15:10
Re: Framing.. Research design 266 Susan Doris 04-Oct-18 17:07
Re: Framing.. Research design 259 Poster Boy 04-Oct-18 17:37
true randomness 263 drrayeye 04-Oct-18 17:53
Re: true randomness 408 Poster Boy 04-Oct-18 19:26
a scientific alternative to dismissive debunking 272 drrayeye 29-Sep-18 21:28
Re: a scientific alternative to dismissive debunking 269 Susan Doris 30-Sep-18 05:06
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Re: I didn't write this post for you, 264 Eddie Larry 30-Sep-18 13:47
Re: a scientific alternative to dismissive debunking 262 drrayeye 30-Sep-18 08:50
Re: a scientific alternative to dismissive debunking 269 Susan Doris 30-Sep-18 10:27
Re: a scientific alternative to dismissive debunking 266 Eddie Larry 30-Sep-18 14:07
Re: a scientific alternative to dismissive debunking 265 Susan Doris 30-Sep-18 15:10
Re: a scientific alternative to dismissive debunking 270 Eddie Larry 30-Sep-18 17:09
Re: a scientific alternative to dismissive debunking 270 Poster Boy 01-Oct-18 19:05
Scientific thinking 288 drrayeye 30-Sep-18 16:43
Re: synchronicity explained? 305 jazzmumbles 26-Sep-18 15:24


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