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Mark,

One of my personal stumbling blocks, as an experimental scientist, has been the concept of true randomness. The core dilemma one faces is that truly random events sometimes must include non-random components. By chance alone, one must allow the possibility of cards being dealt in a bridge game so that each participant would have all of one suit, in the bidding order of 7 clubs, 7 diamonds, 7 hearts, and 7 spades (which would win the bid and be a lay down).

Now, what if we study rare events--which are believed to be non-random and predictable when they are understood? The established scientific approach is to reject a chance explanation by comparing rare events to random events--except a truly random comparison group might even be more "non-random" than the rare event group!

My solution to that kind of problem has been to redefine "truly random" as "truly unsystematic." Thus, for example, I'd reject bridge hands in which each player got all of one suit as "too systematic" and make it an automatic re-deal.

Something like that is what scientific investigators have been doing for a long time.

Ray

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Re: Deconstructing one sync. 202 drrayeye 01-Oct-18 19:09
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Re: Deconstructing one sync. 218 drrayeye 02-Oct-18 00:41
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Re: Research design 206 Poster Boy 02-Oct-18 04:18
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Re: Framing.. Research design 207 Poster Boy 02-Oct-18 23:21
Re: Framing.. Research design 207 Susan Doris 03-Oct-18 04:56
a study of coincidences 205 drrayeye 03-Oct-18 13:24
Re: a study of coincidences 205 Susan Doris 03-Oct-18 15:25
Your scepticism antennae 203 drrayeye 03-Oct-18 19:33
Re: Framing.. Research design 211 Poster Boy 03-Oct-18 16:16
Re: Framing.. Research design 208 Susan Doris 04-Oct-18 07:17
Re: Framing.. Research design 207 Poster Boy 04-Oct-18 15:10
Re: Framing.. Research design 206 Susan Doris 04-Oct-18 17:07
Re: Framing.. Research design 205 Poster Boy 04-Oct-18 17:37
true randomness 206 drrayeye 04-Oct-18 17:53
Re: true randomness 321 Poster Boy 04-Oct-18 19:26
a scientific alternative to dismissive debunking 212 drrayeye 29-Sep-18 21:28
Re: a scientific alternative to dismissive debunking 215 Susan Doris 30-Sep-18 05:06
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Re: I didn't write this post for you, 206 Eddie Larry 30-Sep-18 13:47
Re: a scientific alternative to dismissive debunking 210 drrayeye 30-Sep-18 08:50
Re: a scientific alternative to dismissive debunking 216 Susan Doris 30-Sep-18 10:27
Re: a scientific alternative to dismissive debunking 210 Eddie Larry 30-Sep-18 14:07
Re: a scientific alternative to dismissive debunking 208 Susan Doris 30-Sep-18 15:10
Re: a scientific alternative to dismissive debunking 213 Eddie Larry 30-Sep-18 17:09
Re: a scientific alternative to dismissive debunking 210 Poster Boy 01-Oct-18 19:05
Scientific thinking 225 drrayeye 30-Sep-18 16:43
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