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Mark,

One of my personal stumbling blocks, as an experimental scientist, has been the concept of true randomness. The core dilemma one faces is that truly random events sometimes must include non-random components. By chance alone, one must allow the possibility of cards being dealt in a bridge game so that each participant would have all of one suit, in the bidding order of 7 clubs, 7 diamonds, 7 hearts, and 7 spades (which would win the bid and be a lay down).

Now, what if we study rare events--which are believed to be non-random and predictable when they are understood? The established scientific approach is to reject a chance explanation by comparing rare events to random events--except a truly random comparison group might even be more "non-random" than the rare event group!

My solution to that kind of problem has been to redefine "truly random" as "truly unsystematic." Thus, for example, I'd reject bridge hands in which each player got all of one suit as "too systematic" and make it an automatic re-deal.

Something like that is what scientific investigators have been doing for a long time.

Ray

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Re: synchronicity explained? 228 Susan Doris 29-Sep-18 05:40
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Re: The statistics of synchronicities--in science 230 Poster Boy 29-Sep-18 15:56
Re: The statistics of synchronicities--in science 226 drrayeye 29-Sep-18 19:32
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Some possibilities 226 drrayeye 01-Oct-18 09:53
Deconstructing one sync. 233 Poster Boy 01-Oct-18 18:08
Re: Deconstructing one sync. 220 drrayeye 01-Oct-18 19:09
Re: Deconstructing one sync. 227 Poster Boy 01-Oct-18 20:24
Re: Deconstructing one sync. 234 drrayeye 02-Oct-18 00:41
Re: Deconstructing one sync. 228 Poster Boy 02-Oct-18 02:34
Research design 222 drrayeye 02-Oct-18 04:12
Re: Research design 223 Poster Boy 02-Oct-18 04:18
Framing.. Research design 227 Poster Boy 02-Oct-18 20:50
Re: Framing.. Research design 225 Poster Boy 02-Oct-18 23:21
Re: Framing.. Research design 223 Susan Doris 03-Oct-18 04:56
a study of coincidences 223 drrayeye 03-Oct-18 13:24
Re: a study of coincidences 223 Susan Doris 03-Oct-18 15:25
Your scepticism antennae 220 drrayeye 03-Oct-18 19:33
Re: Framing.. Research design 227 Poster Boy 03-Oct-18 16:16
Re: Framing.. Research design 225 Susan Doris 04-Oct-18 07:17
Re: Framing.. Research design 226 Poster Boy 04-Oct-18 15:10
Re: Framing.. Research design 223 Susan Doris 04-Oct-18 17:07
Re: Framing.. Research design 223 Poster Boy 04-Oct-18 17:37
true randomness 224 drrayeye 04-Oct-18 17:53
Re: true randomness 348 Poster Boy 04-Oct-18 19:26
a scientific alternative to dismissive debunking 231 drrayeye 29-Sep-18 21:28
Re: a scientific alternative to dismissive debunking 232 Susan Doris 30-Sep-18 05:06
I didn't write this post for you, 234 drrayeye 30-Sep-18 06:05
Re: I didn't write this post for you, 224 Eddie Larry 30-Sep-18 13:47
Re: a scientific alternative to dismissive debunking 228 drrayeye 30-Sep-18 08:50
Re: a scientific alternative to dismissive debunking 234 Susan Doris 30-Sep-18 10:27
Re: a scientific alternative to dismissive debunking 227 Eddie Larry 30-Sep-18 14:07
Re: a scientific alternative to dismissive debunking 225 Susan Doris 30-Sep-18 15:10
Re: a scientific alternative to dismissive debunking 229 Eddie Larry 30-Sep-18 17:09
Re: a scientific alternative to dismissive debunking 228 Poster Boy 01-Oct-18 19:05
Scientific thinking 242 drrayeye 30-Sep-18 16:43
Re: synchronicity explained? 263 jazzmumbles 26-Sep-18 15:24


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