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Mark,

One of my personal stumbling blocks, as an experimental scientist, has been the concept of true randomness. The core dilemma one faces is that truly random events sometimes must include non-random components. By chance alone, one must allow the possibility of cards being dealt in a bridge game so that each participant would have all of one suit, in the bidding order of 7 clubs, 7 diamonds, 7 hearts, and 7 spades (which would win the bid and be a lay down).

Now, what if we study rare events--which are believed to be non-random and predictable when they are understood? The established scientific approach is to reject a chance explanation by comparing rare events to random events--except a truly random comparison group might even be more "non-random" than the rare event group!

My solution to that kind of problem has been to redefine "truly random" as "truly unsystematic." Thus, for example, I'd reject bridge hands in which each player got all of one suit as "too systematic" and make it an automatic re-deal.

Something like that is what scientific investigators have been doing for a long time.

Ray

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Re: synchronicity explained? 295 Eddie Larry 27-Sep-18 19:56
Re: synchronicity explained? 278 Poster Boy 27-Sep-18 20:30
show us more "patterns" like this... 299 Poster Boy 27-Sep-18 16:58
Re: synchronicity explained? 283 Susan Doris 28-Sep-18 13:56
Re: synchronicity explained? 267 Poster Boy 28-Sep-18 15:25
Re: synchronicity explained? 258 Eddie Larry 28-Sep-18 20:37
Re: synchronicity explained? 252 Poster Boy 28-Sep-18 21:07
Re: synchronicity explained? 261 Susan Doris 29-Sep-18 05:40
The statistics of synchronicities--in science 259 drrayeye 29-Sep-18 14:12
Re: The statistics of synchronicities--in science 259 Poster Boy 29-Sep-18 15:56
Re: The statistics of synchronicities--in science 256 drrayeye 29-Sep-18 19:32
Questions on synchronicities and statistical science 261 Poster Boy 30-Sep-18 18:13
Some possibilities 257 drrayeye 01-Oct-18 09:53
Deconstructing one sync. 262 Poster Boy 01-Oct-18 18:08
Re: Deconstructing one sync. 252 drrayeye 01-Oct-18 19:09
Re: Deconstructing one sync. 257 Poster Boy 01-Oct-18 20:24
Re: Deconstructing one sync. 263 drrayeye 02-Oct-18 00:41
Re: Deconstructing one sync. 258 Poster Boy 02-Oct-18 02:34
Research design 253 drrayeye 02-Oct-18 04:12
Re: Research design 253 Poster Boy 02-Oct-18 04:18
Framing.. Research design 258 Poster Boy 02-Oct-18 20:50
Re: Framing.. Research design 255 Poster Boy 02-Oct-18 23:21
Re: Framing.. Research design 256 Susan Doris 03-Oct-18 04:56
a study of coincidences 251 drrayeye 03-Oct-18 13:24
Re: a study of coincidences 253 Susan Doris 03-Oct-18 15:25
Your scepticism antennae 250 drrayeye 03-Oct-18 19:33
Re: Framing.. Research design 259 Poster Boy 03-Oct-18 16:16
Re: Framing.. Research design 254 Susan Doris 04-Oct-18 07:17
Re: Framing.. Research design 256 Poster Boy 04-Oct-18 15:10
Re: Framing.. Research design 255 Susan Doris 04-Oct-18 17:07
Re: Framing.. Research design 252 Poster Boy 04-Oct-18 17:37
true randomness 254 drrayeye 04-Oct-18 17:53
Re: true randomness 390 Poster Boy 04-Oct-18 19:26
a scientific alternative to dismissive debunking 262 drrayeye 29-Sep-18 21:28
Re: a scientific alternative to dismissive debunking 261 Susan Doris 30-Sep-18 05:06
I didn't write this post for you, 264 drrayeye 30-Sep-18 06:05
Re: I didn't write this post for you, 253 Eddie Larry 30-Sep-18 13:47
Re: a scientific alternative to dismissive debunking 257 drrayeye 30-Sep-18 08:50
Re: a scientific alternative to dismissive debunking 263 Susan Doris 30-Sep-18 10:27
Re: a scientific alternative to dismissive debunking 257 Eddie Larry 30-Sep-18 14:07
Re: a scientific alternative to dismissive debunking 253 Susan Doris 30-Sep-18 15:10
Re: a scientific alternative to dismissive debunking 258 Eddie Larry 30-Sep-18 17:09
Re: a scientific alternative to dismissive debunking 259 Poster Boy 01-Oct-18 19:05
Scientific thinking 273 drrayeye 30-Sep-18 16:43
Re: synchronicity explained? 297 jazzmumbles 26-Sep-18 15:24


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