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Mark,

One of my personal stumbling blocks, as an experimental scientist, has been the concept of true randomness. The core dilemma one faces is that truly random events sometimes must include non-random components. By chance alone, one must allow the possibility of cards being dealt in a bridge game so that each participant would have all of one suit, in the bidding order of 7 clubs, 7 diamonds, 7 hearts, and 7 spades (which would win the bid and be a lay down).

Now, what if we study rare events--which are believed to be non-random and predictable when they are understood? The established scientific approach is to reject a chance explanation by comparing rare events to random events--except a truly random comparison group might even be more "non-random" than the rare event group!

My solution to that kind of problem has been to redefine "truly random" as "truly unsystematic." Thus, for example, I'd reject bridge hands in which each player got all of one suit as "too systematic" and make it an automatic re-deal.

Something like that is what scientific investigators have been doing for a long time.

Ray

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Re: synchronicity explained? 156 Eddie Larry 27-Sep-18 19:56
Re: synchronicity explained? 151 Poster Boy 27-Sep-18 20:30
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Re: synchronicity explained? 159 Susan Doris 28-Sep-18 13:56
Re: synchronicity explained? 156 Poster Boy 28-Sep-18 15:25
Re: synchronicity explained? 156 Eddie Larry 28-Sep-18 20:37
Re: synchronicity explained? 150 Poster Boy 28-Sep-18 21:07
Re: synchronicity explained? 155 Susan Doris 29-Sep-18 05:40
The statistics of synchronicities--in science 154 drrayeye 29-Sep-18 14:12
Re: The statistics of synchronicities--in science 153 Poster Boy 29-Sep-18 15:56
Re: The statistics of synchronicities--in science 151 drrayeye 29-Sep-18 19:32
Questions on synchronicities and statistical science 159 Poster Boy 30-Sep-18 18:13
Some possibilities 153 drrayeye 01-Oct-18 09:53
Deconstructing one sync. 151 Poster Boy 01-Oct-18 18:08
Re: Deconstructing one sync. 146 drrayeye 01-Oct-18 19:09
Re: Deconstructing one sync. 148 Poster Boy 01-Oct-18 20:24
Re: Deconstructing one sync. 160 drrayeye 02-Oct-18 00:41
Re: Deconstructing one sync. 153 Poster Boy 02-Oct-18 02:34
Research design 150 drrayeye 02-Oct-18 04:12
Re: Research design 150 Poster Boy 02-Oct-18 04:18
Framing.. Research design 150 Poster Boy 02-Oct-18 20:50
Re: Framing.. Research design 153 Poster Boy 02-Oct-18 23:21
Re: Framing.. Research design 148 Susan Doris 03-Oct-18 04:56
a study of coincidences 148 drrayeye 03-Oct-18 13:24
Re: a study of coincidences 149 Susan Doris 03-Oct-18 15:25
Your scepticism antennae 147 drrayeye 03-Oct-18 19:33
Re: Framing.. Research design 154 Poster Boy 03-Oct-18 16:16
Re: Framing.. Research design 150 Susan Doris 04-Oct-18 07:17
Re: Framing.. Research design 150 Poster Boy 04-Oct-18 15:10
Re: Framing.. Research design 149 Susan Doris 04-Oct-18 17:07
Re: Framing.. Research design 147 Poster Boy 04-Oct-18 17:37
true randomness 150 drrayeye 04-Oct-18 17:53
Re: true randomness 236 Poster Boy 04-Oct-18 19:26
a scientific alternative to dismissive debunking 156 drrayeye 29-Sep-18 21:28
Re: a scientific alternative to dismissive debunking 158 Susan Doris 30-Sep-18 05:06
I didn't write this post for you, 161 drrayeye 30-Sep-18 06:05
Re: I didn't write this post for you, 150 Eddie Larry 30-Sep-18 13:47
Re: a scientific alternative to dismissive debunking 153 drrayeye 30-Sep-18 08:50
Re: a scientific alternative to dismissive debunking 159 Susan Doris 30-Sep-18 10:27
Re: a scientific alternative to dismissive debunking 154 Eddie Larry 30-Sep-18 14:07
Re: a scientific alternative to dismissive debunking 153 Susan Doris 30-Sep-18 15:10
Re: a scientific alternative to dismissive debunking 154 Eddie Larry 30-Sep-18 17:09
Re: a scientific alternative to dismissive debunking 155 Poster Boy 01-Oct-18 19:05
Scientific thinking 168 drrayeye 30-Sep-18 16:43
Re: synchronicity explained? 189 jazzmumbles 26-Sep-18 15:24


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