> How long has the Southern Cross been in the same
> location relative accurate for navigation since
> the 1200's with stars circling around it while the
> earth is spinning/traveling at enormous speeds
> around the sun?
> Please explain the enormous contradiction.
I see Carol was confused by your request (This is unusal for her as she knows lots about astronomy) so after working out what you meant myself eventually , I thought I would offer you an answer.
Firstly, it doesn't much bother me if you must find comfort in your religion. However it is most distressing that you are one of many being deceived by this flat earth nonsense and in the process or as a consequence have to throw out much of the knowledge it has taken thousands of years for humans to learn.
I fear behind it all is a very sinister plot.
I do not mean you have to believe everything you are told (I know lots doubt governments and NASA blah blah etc) but surely given at least you can spell ought be able to learn some mathematics and new concepts?
Now to the Southern Cross and your question.
Might I remind you that unless you have been to the Southern Hemisphere of the globe (spherical world!) below 27deg South then you have never actually seen the Southern Cross asterism! You should have if the planet was flat and all stars rotated around the North pole (as you claim)!
Think! No think harder than that! Why haven't you seen it? Reply please.
Why do the stars seen from Sthn Hemisphere eg Australia rotate the opposite way? Do you not believe me? Reply please.
In your OP (first thread starting post) you claimed:
I assume a typo you meant "same locations"Quote
My house is situated equally north, south, east and west,all the stars just rotate in a circle around the north star. In the 10 years of observing the stars, they are in exactly the sample(sic) locations as 10 years ago. I would appreciate comments on my findings
Now sorry, I find it very hard to believe you have spent any considerable time observing the stars with any seriousness. This "baring false witness" ie telling porkies (lying) is nasty thing (thou shalt not) for a devoted friend of Jesus holy roller to do, isn't it?
It must be warming up in BC Canada enough for you to venture out one evening this week, to go outside on a relatively clear night at intervals of say hourly for say 4hours and watch the stars rotate above you. Take note/drawing of positions (favourite few constellations only).
Then in 3 months time do the same and you will see the stars are not in the same positions. The relative positions/distances apart of the visible ones will be consistent but in another part of the sky.
This is because of the spherical nature of the planet Earth and the tilt of axis moving around the Sun from your Spring (near equinox) into Summer (near solstice)
This brings us back to the blurb you asked Carol.
Yes the Earth is moving at high speed around the Sun. However the entire trip is miniscule distance relative to the distance of the visible stars. Refer back to the astro picture (from telescope) I posted for you to show you what the Southern Cross looks like! Now with the naked eye I can tell you one cannot even see a fraction of those stars even on a very clear night, far away from light pollution. All visible stars are close to us in our arm of the galaxy.
The main brightest two stars of the Southern Cross asterism are over 300 light years away from our solar system (actually 321 and 345 light years) read the link provided! Please.
The distance from Earth to Sun is approx. 93million miles call 1 astronomical unit(AU)
There are 63,000 AU in just one light year
321 light years is over 20million AU (or 20 million times 93million miles!!!).
They are so far away their movement in the galaxy are undetectable and seeming nothing to us
That is why they do not seem to move relative to each other but you will see on your big night out star gazing, they move rather fast to us seemingly all together, because the earth spins fast relative to our frame of reference on spherical planet Earth.
But wait there is more. You are already thinking I do not believe this crap how does he or "they" know that? or My Pastor/Minister/Priest says different!!!????
What you need to get your head around and study till you understand it is what is called Parallax
If you repeat your star gazing exercise in 6 months time your Autumn (Fall?) the Earth will have travelled half way in it circuit around the Sun Parallax is where we measure the angle from Earth to a star (say one of the Southern Cross ones ) at six month intervals compare the very slight angle and do basic trigonometry to work out how far away they are. This is especially very easy to do for the planets and along with other methods is why we absolutely, positively, for certain, know the Sun is not 32miles wide and only 3000 miles above Earth.
But wait there is even more. Having been utterly distressed about anyone believing this Flat Earth rubbish I watched some of the vids you posted to try work out how anyone, even if far below average IQ, could fall for it/scam.
The next thing you are likely asking is doesn't the Sun zoom around the galaxy at super speed?
Yes it does but all visible stars are in our branch of the galaxy and a zooming around at similar speed .
It is like you sitting in a car at 100miles per hour and a mosquito is on your nose and it takes off towards the window it is not initially flying at 100mph relative to you but will get a shock if it hits the wind outside the car!
Seriously man for your own good (and society in total and for the love of GOD) study and consider this carefully.
For all others. yes I know am likely wasting my time but far too many are falling for this rubbish not to care and try and help. If not Gordon then someone else possibly?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04-Apr-18 21:44 by Corpuscles.