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I'm afraid I need evidence that we owe those technologies to aliens.


You don’t need evidence, but you want proof-i-ness. . . Certainly no points taken off for curiosity. Many of the technologies available back then simply took bits’n’parts and integrated ideas and hypothesized functions to further developments already underway because of post war concerns. An amalgamation of ingredients and observations, so to speak, probably best describes early research and development as it was – still does actually. Don’t take this the wrong way, but I’m not obligated to do your bidding, besides it’s the classic security measure not to be available, anyway, not even from the manufacturers as it’s not meant to be traceable. . . Nor will I give you click bait links to some lame story. . . Air gaps work wonders in many trades and this is one of them. . . Beliefs are a fickle-thing and they’re best left alone. Manufacturers aren’t obligated either, as it could be deemed as industrial espionage from their perspective and the inquisitor made a person of interest. They take their patents and profits very seriously in a capitalist economy.

If truly interested you could set out on your own investigation to research and inquire where they’re fabricated and manufactured as well as do a historical check on the basic ideas and their formulation into usable hardware - or simply do without knowing like many people do - not caring where the ideas or technology came from or how long it was in the making for consumer purchase, just so long as it works . . . *click,* *tap,* *swipe.* There’s actually quite a bit that goes into an end product such as a device that extends an otherwise limited sensory apparatus as human vision.


You could simply mark those developments down to gifts of fire, I suppose, but don’t blame Prometheus . . . And I a crank. . . I’m not concerned as name calling is bunk anyway. . . Appreciate that inquiry, though, and half expected it and knew an easy out answer wouldn’t be forthcoming, too, as it’s not meant to be. . . Ask yourself, “Do magicians reveal their secrets before their stage show?” . . . They deliberately mean to test ones skills of observation for slight-of-hand maneuvers. It’s unfortunate, but knowing too much puts one at risk in this not-so-safe world. I might have been better off not participating on an open forum subject to nefarious searches, but I chose to add to a discussion not resolve it as research and development is on going with or without beliefs. . .Besides, credibility is easily fabricated to be convincing and what was said remains plausible without proof-i-ness.

“Be sure you’re right . . . then go ahead.” ~ Davy Crockett

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"Mind like parachute, must be open to function." ~ Charlie Chan - Famous Chinese detective character

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The Pentagon's UFO Program 4266 Aine 17-Dec-17 19:48
Mod Note > Topic Moved 542 Dr. Troglodyte 17-Dec-17 20:10
Fighter aircraft 666 Reagent 17-Dec-17 21:13
Re: Fighter aircraft 607 Aine 17-Dec-17 21:24
Oh please! 542 Reagent 17-Dec-17 22:40
Re: Oh please! 495 Aine 17-Dec-17 22:55
Apologies! 512 Reagent 17-Dec-17 23:14
Re: Apologies! 470 Aine 17-Dec-17 23:17
No Worries 459 Reagent 18-Dec-17 03:43
Re: No Worries 479 Archaic 18-Dec-17 03:54
Familiar acronym 432 Reagent 19-Dec-17 20:56
Re: No Worries 435 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:31
Fun, too 484 Reagent 18-Dec-17 18:51
Re: Fun, too 431 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:59
Language conundrum 449 Reagent 19-Dec-17 04:58
Re: Fun, too 362 altered-state 28-Mar-18 04:56
Not so safe secrecy 405 Reagent 29-Mar-18 09:17
Re: Not so safe secrecy 552 altered-state 29-Mar-18 15:01
We are not alone: Alien Presence 581 Sirhope 19-Dec-17 07:13
We are not alone; neither are they 444 Reagent 19-Dec-17 08:47
Re: We are not alone; neither are they 452 Sirhope 19-Dec-17 09:34
We are not alone; neither are they 461 Reagent 19-Dec-17 12:03
Title 14, Section 1211 of U.S. Federal Code: 457 Reagent 19-Dec-17 18:11
Re: Oh please! 443 Archaic 17-Dec-17 23:16
Re: Fighter aircraft 439 Archaic 17-Dec-17 22:46
Some context of what we're seeing in video 540 Archaic 17-Dec-17 22:36
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 552 Aine 17-Dec-17 22:48
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 460 Archaic 17-Dec-17 22:54
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 422 Aine 17-Dec-17 22:56
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 419 Aine 17-Dec-17 23:14
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 411 Archaic 17-Dec-17 23:54
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 476 Loki74 18-Dec-17 00:35
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 497 Loki74 18-Dec-17 00:47
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 394 Archaic 18-Dec-17 01:04
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 401 Loki74 18-Dec-17 01:22
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 416 Archaic 18-Dec-17 01:46
Here, Loki - Lazar's Credibility 457 Archaic 18-Dec-17 02:35
Re: Here, Loki - Lazar's Credibility 454 Loki74 18-Dec-17 11:01
Re: Here, Loki - Lazar's Credibility 338 altered-state 28-Mar-18 05:29
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 409 Loki74 18-Dec-17 00:22
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 499 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 03:44
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 400 jeffreyw 18-Dec-17 03:47
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 415 Archaic 18-Dec-17 04:07
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 397 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:33
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 459 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:50
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 408 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 05:10
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 481 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:49
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 476 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 17:41
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 445 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:10
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 473 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:25
1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 464 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:35
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 453 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:38
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 383 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:43
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 163 Archaic 25-Jun-19 10:01
2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 414 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:41
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 383 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:50
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 392 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:58
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 377 Aine 18-Dec-17 19:03
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 411 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 19:06
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 398 Aine 18-Dec-17 19:08
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 401 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 19:09
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 402 altered-state 28-Mar-18 05:43
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 338 Aine 28-Mar-18 13:02
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 348 altered-state 28-Mar-18 15:26
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 332 Aine 29-Mar-18 00:40
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 399 altered-state 29-Mar-18 01:32
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 464 Susan Doris 18-Dec-17 06:41
just got and started reading Leslie Kean's book on my kindle 407 greengirl5 18-Dec-17 07:02
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 474 Archaic 18-Dec-17 07:20
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 414 Susan Doris 18-Dec-17 10:09
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 409 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:56
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 471 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 17:34
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 375 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:46
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 409 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:12
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 383 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:14
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 387 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:22
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 397 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:39
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 470 Anomalies 01-Mar-18 20:11
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 333 Aine 28-Mar-18 00:08
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 340 altered-state 28-Mar-18 05:46
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 375 Anomalies 01-Mar-18 20:03
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 488 Vanya 18-Dec-17 07:36
Already posted 449 drrayeye 18-Dec-17 08:50
Re: Already posted 471 Vanya 18-Dec-17 10:09
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 481 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:54
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 404 Vanya 19-Dec-17 07:03
This today 474 Poster Boy 20-Dec-17 00:58
Re: This today 499 Aine 20-Dec-17 01:03
Re: This today 415 Aine 20-Dec-17 18:40
High hopes! 395 greengirl5 20-Dec-17 22:11
Re: High hopes! 382 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:11
Zimbabwae UFO case 427 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:26
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 411 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:31
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 423 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:41
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 425 Aine 21-Dec-17 02:02
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 370 Archaic 21-Dec-17 02:13
Could this be it? 417 greengirl5 21-Dec-17 03:18
Re: Could this be it? 382 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:18
And the one I could/did find... 415 Racho 21-Dec-17 05:34
Re: This today 452 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:23
Re: This today 414 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:25
Re: This today 361 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:23
Re: This today 404 Nolondil 21-Dec-17 01:27
Re: This today 410 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:31
Re: This today 392 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:39
Re: This today 421 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:52
Re: This today 381 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:57
Re: This today 378 Archaic 21-Dec-17 02:00
very limited consideration imv 396 Racho 21-Dec-17 01:34
Re: very limited consideration imv 408 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:37
try to envision 379 Racho 21-Dec-17 01:47
Re: try to envision 401 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:50
Re: try to envision 368 Nolondil 21-Dec-17 02:23
Re: try to envision 406 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:24
Re: try to envision 386 Racho 21-Dec-17 06:19
Re: try to envision 380 Aine 21-Dec-17 14:53
Re: try to envision 446 Aine 21-Dec-17 17:47
Re: This today 396 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:34
Other angles 519 Reagent 21-Dec-17 07:50
Re: Other angles 412 Aine 21-Dec-17 15:09
Other angles; in progress and deployed 396 Reagent 21-Dec-17 19:00
Re: Other angles; in progress and deployed 416 Aine 21-Dec-17 21:31
In progress and deployed 353 Reagent 22-Dec-17 00:30
Re: In progress and deployed 383 Aine 22-Dec-17 00:59
Re: This today 401 Poster Boy 22-Dec-17 16:43
Re: This today 428 Aine 22-Dec-17 20:39
Re: This today 396 Poster Boy 22-Dec-17 21:58
Re: This today 360 Aine 22-Dec-17 23:37
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 409 WhoWeird 20-Dec-17 21:32
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 413 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:54
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 394 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 02:18
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 391 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:27
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 374 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 12:44
Are all these kids corrupted? 391 Racho 21-Dec-17 06:27
Re: Are all these kids corrupted? 374 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 12:51
Re: Are all these kids corrupted? 380 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 13:21
Re: Are all these kids corrupted? 395 Aine 21-Dec-17 14:59
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 396 Aine 21-Dec-17 14:51
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 408 Archaic 21-Dec-17 02:22
CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 473 Archaic 21-Dec-17 20:44
Re: CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 465 Aine 21-Dec-17 21:29
Re: CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 453 drrayeye 21-Dec-17 23:53
Re: CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 453 Aine 22-Dec-17 02:24
disbelievers? 416 drrayeye 22-Dec-17 18:11
Re: disbelievers? 426 Aine 22-Dec-17 20:33
Re: disbelievers? 448 drrayeye 23-Dec-17 02:48
Re: disbelievers? 402 Aine 23-Dec-17 13:47
You don't see the difference? 418 drrayeye 23-Dec-17 18:41
Re: You don't see the difference? 421 Eddie Larry 23-Dec-17 19:32
Re: You don't see the difference? 496 Poster Boy 23-Dec-17 20:04
Re: You don't see the difference? 467 DUNE 02-Jan-18 16:59
Re: You don't see the difference? 547 Aine 02-Jan-18 18:49
US Navy Finally Opening Up About Odd Aerial Phenomena 186 Race Jackson 27-May-19 20:00
Mod Note > Duplicate Topic Merged 176 Dr. Troglodyte 27-May-19 22:02
HC USA Airing – Time Sensitive 167 Dr. Troglodyte 31-May-19 15:56
Re: HC USA Airing – Time Sensitive 166 Race Jackson 31-May-19 18:27
US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 199 Race Jackson 02-Jun-19 13:18
Re: US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 189 WhoWeird 02-Jun-19 13:25
Re: US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 193 Race Jackson 02-Jun-19 13:56
Re: US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 169 WhoWeird 02-Jun-19 14:01
Re: US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 186 Lee McGiffen 03-Jun-19 02:16
Re: US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 194 Race Jackson 03-Jun-19 18:44
Mod Note > Duplicate Topic Merged 166 Dr. Troglodyte 02-Jun-19 15:20
Mod Warning > Race Jackson 183 Dr. Troglodyte 02-Jun-19 15:22
Re: US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 155 Archaic 25-Jun-19 14:02
Tucker Carlson May 31st 2019 817 Race Jackson 07-Jun-19 00:49
SlaiciffO SoroboruO LaiciffO 196 Dr. Troglodyte 24-Jun-19 17:58
Thoughts 165 Race Jackson 25-Jun-19 15:15
Re: Thoughts 159 Dr. Troglodyte 25-Jun-19 17:00
Re: Thoughts 157 Archaic 26-Jun-19 11:28
Re: Thoughts 206 Dr. Troglodyte 26-Jun-19 16:05
US Navy Encounters Recent 158 Race Jackson 25-Jun-19 15:41


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