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I'm afraid I need evidence that we owe those technologies to aliens.


You don’t need evidence, but you want proof-i-ness. . . Certainly no points taken off for curiosity. Many of the technologies available back then simply took bits’n’parts and integrated ideas and hypothesized functions to further developments already underway because of post war concerns. An amalgamation of ingredients and observations, so to speak, probably best describes early research and development as it was – still does actually. Don’t take this the wrong way, but I’m not obligated to do your bidding, besides it’s the classic security measure not to be available, anyway, not even from the manufacturers as it’s not meant to be traceable. . . Nor will I give you click bait links to some lame story. . . Air gaps work wonders in many trades and this is one of them. . . Beliefs are a fickle-thing and they’re best left alone. Manufacturers aren’t obligated either, as it could be deemed as industrial espionage from their perspective and the inquisitor made a person of interest. They take their patents and profits very seriously in a capitalist economy.

If truly interested you could set out on your own investigation to research and inquire where they’re fabricated and manufactured as well as do a historical check on the basic ideas and their formulation into usable hardware - or simply do without knowing like many people do - not caring where the ideas or technology came from or how long it was in the making for consumer purchase, just so long as it works . . . *click,* *tap,* *swipe.* There’s actually quite a bit that goes into an end product such as a device that extends an otherwise limited sensory apparatus as human vision.


You could simply mark those developments down to gifts of fire, I suppose, but don’t blame Prometheus . . . And I a crank. . . I’m not concerned as name calling is bunk anyway. . . Appreciate that inquiry, though, and half expected it and knew an easy out answer wouldn’t be forthcoming, too, as it’s not meant to be. . . Ask yourself, “Do magicians reveal their secrets before their stage show?” . . . They deliberately mean to test ones skills of observation for slight-of-hand maneuvers. It’s unfortunate, but knowing too much puts one at risk in this not-so-safe world. I might have been better off not participating on an open forum subject to nefarious searches, but I chose to add to a discussion not resolve it as research and development is on going with or without beliefs. . .Besides, credibility is easily fabricated to be convincing and what was said remains plausible without proof-i-ness.

“Be sure you’re right . . . then go ahead.” ~ Davy Crockett

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"Mind like parachute, must be open to function." ~ Charlie Chan - Famous Chinese detective character

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The Pentagon's UFO Program 4315 Aine 17-Dec-17 19:48
Mod Note > Topic Moved 564 Dr. Troglodyte 17-Dec-17 20:10
Fighter aircraft 688 Reagent 17-Dec-17 21:13
Re: Fighter aircraft 631 Aine 17-Dec-17 21:24
Oh please! 565 Reagent 17-Dec-17 22:40
Re: Oh please! 511 Aine 17-Dec-17 22:55
Apologies! 530 Reagent 17-Dec-17 23:14
Re: Apologies! 486 Aine 17-Dec-17 23:17
No Worries 476 Reagent 18-Dec-17 03:43
Re: No Worries 496 Archaic 18-Dec-17 03:54
Familiar acronym 453 Reagent 19-Dec-17 20:56
Re: No Worries 453 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:31
Fun, too 509 Reagent 18-Dec-17 18:51
Re: Fun, too 446 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:59
Language conundrum 467 Reagent 19-Dec-17 04:58
Re: Fun, too 377 altered-state 28-Mar-18 04:56
Not so safe secrecy 422 Reagent 29-Mar-18 09:17
Re: Not so safe secrecy 568 altered-state 29-Mar-18 15:01
We are not alone: Alien Presence 598 Sirhope 19-Dec-17 07:13
We are not alone; neither are they 461 Reagent 19-Dec-17 08:47
Re: We are not alone; neither are they 471 Sirhope 19-Dec-17 09:34
We are not alone; neither are they 481 Reagent 19-Dec-17 12:03
Title 14, Section 1211 of U.S. Federal Code: 486 Reagent 19-Dec-17 18:11
Re: Oh please! 462 Archaic 17-Dec-17 23:16
Re: Fighter aircraft 456 Archaic 17-Dec-17 22:46
Some context of what we're seeing in video 557 Archaic 17-Dec-17 22:36
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 574 Aine 17-Dec-17 22:48
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 478 Archaic 17-Dec-17 22:54
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 437 Aine 17-Dec-17 22:56
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 439 Aine 17-Dec-17 23:14
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 428 Archaic 17-Dec-17 23:54
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 494 Loki74 18-Dec-17 00:35
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 520 Loki74 18-Dec-17 00:47
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 412 Archaic 18-Dec-17 01:04
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 420 Loki74 18-Dec-17 01:22
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 435 Archaic 18-Dec-17 01:46
Here, Loki - Lazar's Credibility 478 Archaic 18-Dec-17 02:35
Re: Here, Loki - Lazar's Credibility 472 Loki74 18-Dec-17 11:01
Re: Here, Loki - Lazar's Credibility 354 altered-state 28-Mar-18 05:29
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 428 Loki74 18-Dec-17 00:22
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 515 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 03:44
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 416 jeffreyw 18-Dec-17 03:47
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 433 Archaic 18-Dec-17 04:07
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 413 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:33
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 478 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:50
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 424 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 05:10
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 500 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:49
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 495 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 17:41
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 466 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:10
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 490 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:25
1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 481 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:35
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 473 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:38
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 397 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:43
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 178 Archaic 25-Jun-19 10:01
2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 434 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:41
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 402 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:50
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 409 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:58
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 396 Aine 18-Dec-17 19:03
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 431 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 19:06
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 418 Aine 18-Dec-17 19:08
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 416 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 19:09
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 421 altered-state 28-Mar-18 05:43
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 353 Aine 28-Mar-18 13:02
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 364 altered-state 28-Mar-18 15:26
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 346 Aine 29-Mar-18 00:40
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 414 altered-state 29-Mar-18 01:32
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 480 Susan Doris 18-Dec-17 06:41
just got and started reading Leslie Kean's book on my kindle 423 greengirl5 18-Dec-17 07:02
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 493 Archaic 18-Dec-17 07:20
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 430 Susan Doris 18-Dec-17 10:09
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 428 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:56
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 490 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 17:34
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 391 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:46
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 426 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:12
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 399 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:14
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 406 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:22
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 420 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:39
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 489 Anomalies 01-Mar-18 20:11
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 346 Aine 28-Mar-18 00:08
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 356 altered-state 28-Mar-18 05:46
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 393 Anomalies 01-Mar-18 20:03
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 506 Vanya 18-Dec-17 07:36
Already posted 466 drrayeye 18-Dec-17 08:50
Re: Already posted 488 Vanya 18-Dec-17 10:09
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 497 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:54
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 421 Vanya 19-Dec-17 07:03
This today 492 Poster Boy 20-Dec-17 00:58
Re: This today 522 Aine 20-Dec-17 01:03
Re: This today 431 Aine 20-Dec-17 18:40
High hopes! 413 greengirl5 20-Dec-17 22:11
Re: High hopes! 398 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:11
Zimbabwae UFO case 443 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:26
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 427 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:31
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 443 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:41
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 446 Aine 21-Dec-17 02:02
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 386 Archaic 21-Dec-17 02:13
Could this be it? 439 greengirl5 21-Dec-17 03:18
Re: Could this be it? 399 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:18
And the one I could/did find... 433 Racho 21-Dec-17 05:34
Re: This today 468 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:23
Re: This today 434 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:25
Re: This today 377 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:23
Re: This today 421 Nolondil 21-Dec-17 01:27
Re: This today 425 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:31
Re: This today 405 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:39
Re: This today 442 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:52
Re: This today 402 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:57
Re: This today 401 Archaic 21-Dec-17 02:00
very limited consideration imv 411 Racho 21-Dec-17 01:34
Re: very limited consideration imv 425 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:37
try to envision 395 Racho 21-Dec-17 01:47
Re: try to envision 421 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:50
Re: try to envision 382 Nolondil 21-Dec-17 02:23
Re: try to envision 424 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:24
Re: try to envision 406 Racho 21-Dec-17 06:19
Re: try to envision 400 Aine 21-Dec-17 14:53
Re: try to envision 464 Aine 21-Dec-17 17:47
Re: This today 416 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:34
Other angles 540 Reagent 21-Dec-17 07:50
Re: Other angles 430 Aine 21-Dec-17 15:09
Other angles; in progress and deployed 415 Reagent 21-Dec-17 19:00
Re: Other angles; in progress and deployed 438 Aine 21-Dec-17 21:31
In progress and deployed 373 Reagent 22-Dec-17 00:30
Re: In progress and deployed 402 Aine 22-Dec-17 00:59
Re: This today 416 Poster Boy 22-Dec-17 16:43
Re: This today 447 Aine 22-Dec-17 20:39
Re: This today 411 Poster Boy 22-Dec-17 21:58
Re: This today 375 Aine 22-Dec-17 23:37
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 430 WhoWeird 20-Dec-17 21:32
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 431 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:54
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 413 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 02:18
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 408 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:27
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 392 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 12:44
Are all these kids corrupted? 409 Racho 21-Dec-17 06:27
Re: Are all these kids corrupted? 392 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 12:51
Re: Are all these kids corrupted? 398 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 13:21
Re: Are all these kids corrupted? 416 Aine 21-Dec-17 14:59
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 420 Aine 21-Dec-17 14:51
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 427 Archaic 21-Dec-17 02:22
CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 495 Archaic 21-Dec-17 20:44
Re: CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 489 Aine 21-Dec-17 21:29
Re: CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 470 drrayeye 21-Dec-17 23:53
Re: CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 474 Aine 22-Dec-17 02:24
disbelievers? 436 drrayeye 22-Dec-17 18:11
Re: disbelievers? 445 Aine 22-Dec-17 20:33
Re: disbelievers? 468 drrayeye 23-Dec-17 02:48
Re: disbelievers? 418 Aine 23-Dec-17 13:47
You don't see the difference? 433 drrayeye 23-Dec-17 18:41
Re: You don't see the difference? 439 Eddie Larry 23-Dec-17 19:32
Re: You don't see the difference? 518 Poster Boy 23-Dec-17 20:04
Re: You don't see the difference? 487 DUNE 02-Jan-18 16:59
Re: You don't see the difference? 567 Aine 02-Jan-18 18:49
US Navy Finally Opening Up About Odd Aerial Phenomena 201 Race Jackson 27-May-19 20:00
Mod Note > Duplicate Topic Merged 193 Dr. Troglodyte 27-May-19 22:02
HC USA Airing – Time Sensitive 182 Dr. Troglodyte 31-May-19 15:56
Re: HC USA Airing – Time Sensitive 181 Race Jackson 31-May-19 18:27
US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 213 Race Jackson 02-Jun-19 13:18
Re: US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 203 WhoWeird 02-Jun-19 13:25
Re: US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 206 Race Jackson 02-Jun-19 13:56
Re: US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 183 WhoWeird 02-Jun-19 14:01
Re: US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 200 Lee McGiffen 03-Jun-19 02:16
Re: US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 210 Race Jackson 03-Jun-19 18:44
Mod Note > Duplicate Topic Merged 180 Dr. Troglodyte 02-Jun-19 15:20
Mod Warning > Race Jackson 197 Dr. Troglodyte 02-Jun-19 15:22
Re: US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 169 Archaic 25-Jun-19 14:02
Tucker Carlson May 31st 2019 834 Race Jackson 07-Jun-19 00:49
SlaiciffO SoroboruO LaiciffO 210 Dr. Troglodyte 24-Jun-19 17:58
Thoughts 179 Race Jackson 25-Jun-19 15:15
Re: Thoughts 174 Dr. Troglodyte 25-Jun-19 17:00
Re: Thoughts 170 Archaic 26-Jun-19 11:28
Re: Thoughts 232 Dr. Troglodyte 26-Jun-19 16:05
US Navy Encounters Recent 174 Race Jackson 25-Jun-19 15:41


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