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I'm afraid I need evidence that we owe those technologies to aliens.


You don’t need evidence, but you want proof-i-ness. . . Certainly no points taken off for curiosity. Many of the technologies available back then simply took bits’n’parts and integrated ideas and hypothesized functions to further developments already underway because of post war concerns. An amalgamation of ingredients and observations, so to speak, probably best describes early research and development as it was – still does actually. Don’t take this the wrong way, but I’m not obligated to do your bidding, besides it’s the classic security measure not to be available, anyway, not even from the manufacturers as it’s not meant to be traceable. . . Nor will I give you click bait links to some lame story. . . Air gaps work wonders in many trades and this is one of them. . . Beliefs are a fickle-thing and they’re best left alone. Manufacturers aren’t obligated either, as it could be deemed as industrial espionage from their perspective and the inquisitor made a person of interest. They take their patents and profits very seriously in a capitalist economy.

If truly interested you could set out on your own investigation to research and inquire where they’re fabricated and manufactured as well as do a historical check on the basic ideas and their formulation into usable hardware - or simply do without knowing like many people do - not caring where the ideas or technology came from or how long it was in the making for consumer purchase, just so long as it works . . . *click,* *tap,* *swipe.* There’s actually quite a bit that goes into an end product such as a device that extends an otherwise limited sensory apparatus as human vision.


You could simply mark those developments down to gifts of fire, I suppose, but don’t blame Prometheus . . . And I a crank. . . I’m not concerned as name calling is bunk anyway. . . Appreciate that inquiry, though, and half expected it and knew an easy out answer wouldn’t be forthcoming, too, as it’s not meant to be. . . Ask yourself, “Do magicians reveal their secrets before their stage show?” . . . They deliberately mean to test ones skills of observation for slight-of-hand maneuvers. It’s unfortunate, but knowing too much puts one at risk in this not-so-safe world. I might have been better off not participating on an open forum subject to nefarious searches, but I chose to add to a discussion not resolve it as research and development is on going with or without beliefs. . .Besides, credibility is easily fabricated to be convincing and what was said remains plausible without proof-i-ness.

“Be sure you’re right . . . then go ahead.” ~ Davy Crockett

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"Mind like parachute, must be open to function." ~ Charlie Chan - Famous Chinese detective character

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The Pentagon's UFO Program 4399 Aine 17-Dec-17 19:48
Mod Note > Topic Moved 582 Dr. Troglodyte 17-Dec-17 20:10
Fighter aircraft 710 Reagent 17-Dec-17 21:13
Re: Fighter aircraft 654 Aine 17-Dec-17 21:24
Oh please! 591 Reagent 17-Dec-17 22:40
Re: Oh please! 531 Aine 17-Dec-17 22:55
Apologies! 553 Reagent 17-Dec-17 23:14
Re: Apologies! 505 Aine 17-Dec-17 23:17
No Worries 497 Reagent 18-Dec-17 03:43
Re: No Worries 517 Archaic 18-Dec-17 03:54
Familiar acronym 475 Reagent 19-Dec-17 20:56
Re: No Worries 478 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:31
Fun, too 528 Reagent 18-Dec-17 18:51
Re: Fun, too 464 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:59
Language conundrum 490 Reagent 19-Dec-17 04:58
Re: Fun, too 397 altered-state 28-Mar-18 04:56
Not so safe secrecy 443 Reagent 29-Mar-18 09:17
Re: Not so safe secrecy 590 altered-state 29-Mar-18 15:01
We are not alone: Alien Presence 620 Sirhope 19-Dec-17 07:13
We are not alone; neither are they 484 Reagent 19-Dec-17 08:47
Re: We are not alone; neither are they 489 Sirhope 19-Dec-17 09:34
We are not alone; neither are they 505 Reagent 19-Dec-17 12:03
Title 14, Section 1211 of U.S. Federal Code: 509 Reagent 19-Dec-17 18:11
Re: Oh please! 479 Archaic 17-Dec-17 23:16
Re: Fighter aircraft 477 Archaic 17-Dec-17 22:46
Some context of what we're seeing in video 578 Archaic 17-Dec-17 22:36
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 594 Aine 17-Dec-17 22:48
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 496 Archaic 17-Dec-17 22:54
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 457 Aine 17-Dec-17 22:56
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 458 Aine 17-Dec-17 23:14
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 446 Archaic 17-Dec-17 23:54
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 513 Loki74 18-Dec-17 00:35
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 541 Loki74 18-Dec-17 00:47
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 430 Archaic 18-Dec-17 01:04
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 442 Loki74 18-Dec-17 01:22
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 454 Archaic 18-Dec-17 01:46
Here, Loki - Lazar's Credibility 496 Archaic 18-Dec-17 02:35
Re: Here, Loki - Lazar's Credibility 495 Loki74 18-Dec-17 11:01
Re: Here, Loki - Lazar's Credibility 373 altered-state 28-Mar-18 05:29
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 447 Loki74 18-Dec-17 00:22
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 538 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 03:44
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 442 jeffreyw 18-Dec-17 03:47
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 455 Archaic 18-Dec-17 04:07
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 434 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:33
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 500 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:50
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 446 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 05:10
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 521 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:49
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 516 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 17:41
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 485 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:10
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 517 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:25
1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 503 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:35
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 492 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:38
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 415 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:43
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 195 Archaic 25-Jun-19 10:01
2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 459 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:41
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 424 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:50
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 432 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:58
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 417 Aine 18-Dec-17 19:03
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 453 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 19:06
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 436 Aine 18-Dec-17 19:08
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 440 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 19:09
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 439 altered-state 28-Mar-18 05:43
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 374 Aine 28-Mar-18 13:02
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 381 altered-state 28-Mar-18 15:26
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 364 Aine 29-Mar-18 00:40
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 436 altered-state 29-Mar-18 01:32
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 501 Susan Doris 18-Dec-17 06:41
just got and started reading Leslie Kean's book on my kindle 445 greengirl5 18-Dec-17 07:02
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 514 Archaic 18-Dec-17 07:20
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 450 Susan Doris 18-Dec-17 10:09
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 450 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:56
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 509 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 17:34
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 409 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:46
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 444 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:12
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 416 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:14
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 424 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:22
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 441 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:39
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 512 Anomalies 01-Mar-18 20:11
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 365 Aine 28-Mar-18 00:08
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 374 altered-state 28-Mar-18 05:46
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 413 Anomalies 01-Mar-18 20:03
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 528 Vanya 18-Dec-17 07:36
Already posted 485 drrayeye 18-Dec-17 08:50
Re: Already posted 509 Vanya 18-Dec-17 10:09
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 518 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:54
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 441 Vanya 19-Dec-17 07:03
This today 514 Poster Boy 20-Dec-17 00:58
Re: This today 547 Aine 20-Dec-17 01:03
Re: This today 450 Aine 20-Dec-17 18:40
High hopes! 433 greengirl5 20-Dec-17 22:11
Re: High hopes! 420 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:11
Zimbabwae UFO case 462 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:26
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 445 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:31
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 463 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:41
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 466 Aine 21-Dec-17 02:02
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 404 Archaic 21-Dec-17 02:13
Could this be it? 464 greengirl5 21-Dec-17 03:18
Re: Could this be it? 424 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:18
And the one I could/did find... 450 Racho 21-Dec-17 05:34
Re: This today 487 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:23
Re: This today 461 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:25
Re: This today 397 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:23
Re: This today 444 Nolondil 21-Dec-17 01:27
Re: This today 445 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:31
Re: This today 424 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:39
Re: This today 463 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:52
Re: This today 420 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:57
Re: This today 419 Archaic 21-Dec-17 02:00
very limited consideration imv 431 Racho 21-Dec-17 01:34
Re: very limited consideration imv 449 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:37
try to envision 414 Racho 21-Dec-17 01:47
Re: try to envision 439 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:50
Re: try to envision 398 Nolondil 21-Dec-17 02:23
Re: try to envision 444 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:24
Re: try to envision 428 Racho 21-Dec-17 06:19
Re: try to envision 421 Aine 21-Dec-17 14:53
Re: try to envision 486 Aine 21-Dec-17 17:47
Re: This today 437 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:34
Other angles 560 Reagent 21-Dec-17 07:50
Re: Other angles 463 Aine 21-Dec-17 15:09
Other angles; in progress and deployed 438 Reagent 21-Dec-17 19:00
Re: Other angles; in progress and deployed 459 Aine 21-Dec-17 21:31
In progress and deployed 392 Reagent 22-Dec-17 00:30
Re: In progress and deployed 424 Aine 22-Dec-17 00:59
Re: This today 437 Poster Boy 22-Dec-17 16:43
Re: This today 468 Aine 22-Dec-17 20:39
Re: This today 430 Poster Boy 22-Dec-17 21:58
Re: This today 394 Aine 22-Dec-17 23:37
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 450 WhoWeird 20-Dec-17 21:32
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 451 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:54
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 433 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 02:18
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 425 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:27
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 415 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 12:44
Are all these kids corrupted? 430 Racho 21-Dec-17 06:27
Re: Are all these kids corrupted? 414 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 12:51
Re: Are all these kids corrupted? 423 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 13:21
Re: Are all these kids corrupted? 440 Aine 21-Dec-17 14:59
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 450 Aine 21-Dec-17 14:51
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 449 Archaic 21-Dec-17 02:22
CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 527 Archaic 21-Dec-17 20:44
Re: CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 514 Aine 21-Dec-17 21:29
Re: CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 489 drrayeye 21-Dec-17 23:53
Re: CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 491 Aine 22-Dec-17 02:24
disbelievers? 457 drrayeye 22-Dec-17 18:11
Re: disbelievers? 468 Aine 22-Dec-17 20:33
Re: disbelievers? 487 drrayeye 23-Dec-17 02:48
Re: disbelievers? 443 Aine 23-Dec-17 13:47
You don't see the difference? 453 drrayeye 23-Dec-17 18:41
Re: You don't see the difference? 477 Eddie Larry 23-Dec-17 19:32
Re: You don't see the difference? 540 Poster Boy 23-Dec-17 20:04
Re: You don't see the difference? 508 DUNE 02-Jan-18 16:59
Re: You don't see the difference? 590 Aine 02-Jan-18 18:49
US Navy Finally Opening Up About Odd Aerial Phenomena 224 Race Jackson 27-May-19 20:00
Mod Note > Duplicate Topic Merged 213 Dr. Troglodyte 27-May-19 22:02
HC USA Airing – Time Sensitive 202 Dr. Troglodyte 31-May-19 15:56
Re: HC USA Airing – Time Sensitive 202 Race Jackson 31-May-19 18:27
US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 235 Race Jackson 02-Jun-19 13:18
Re: US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 221 WhoWeird 02-Jun-19 13:25
Re: US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 224 Race Jackson 02-Jun-19 13:56
Re: US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 206 WhoWeird 02-Jun-19 14:01
Re: US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 219 Lee McGiffen 03-Jun-19 02:16
Re: US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 234 Race Jackson 03-Jun-19 18:44
Mod Note > Duplicate Topic Merged 198 Dr. Troglodyte 02-Jun-19 15:20
Mod Warning > Race Jackson 217 Dr. Troglodyte 02-Jun-19 15:22
Re: US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 188 Archaic 25-Jun-19 14:02
Tucker Carlson May 31st 2019 870 Race Jackson 07-Jun-19 00:49
SlaiciffO SoroboruO LaiciffO 239 Dr. Troglodyte 24-Jun-19 17:58
Thoughts 201 Race Jackson 25-Jun-19 15:15
Re: Thoughts 195 Dr. Troglodyte 25-Jun-19 17:00
Re: Thoughts 188 Archaic 26-Jun-19 11:28
Re: Thoughts 272 Dr. Troglodyte 26-Jun-19 16:05
US Navy Encounters Recent 196 Race Jackson 25-Jun-19 15:41


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