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I'm afraid I need evidence that we owe those technologies to aliens.


You don’t need evidence, but you want proof-i-ness. . . Certainly no points taken off for curiosity. Many of the technologies available back then simply took bits’n’parts and integrated ideas and hypothesized functions to further developments already underway because of post war concerns. An amalgamation of ingredients and observations, so to speak, probably best describes early research and development as it was – still does actually. Don’t take this the wrong way, but I’m not obligated to do your bidding, besides it’s the classic security measure not to be available, anyway, not even from the manufacturers as it’s not meant to be traceable. . . Nor will I give you click bait links to some lame story. . . Air gaps work wonders in many trades and this is one of them. . . Beliefs are a fickle-thing and they’re best left alone. Manufacturers aren’t obligated either, as it could be deemed as industrial espionage from their perspective and the inquisitor made a person of interest. They take their patents and profits very seriously in a capitalist economy.

If truly interested you could set out on your own investigation to research and inquire where they’re fabricated and manufactured as well as do a historical check on the basic ideas and their formulation into usable hardware - or simply do without knowing like many people do - not caring where the ideas or technology came from or how long it was in the making for consumer purchase, just so long as it works . . . *click,* *tap,* *swipe.* There’s actually quite a bit that goes into an end product such as a device that extends an otherwise limited sensory apparatus as human vision.


You could simply mark those developments down to gifts of fire, I suppose, but don’t blame Prometheus . . . And I a crank. . . I’m not concerned as name calling is bunk anyway. . . Appreciate that inquiry, though, and half expected it and knew an easy out answer wouldn’t be forthcoming, too, as it’s not meant to be. . . Ask yourself, “Do magicians reveal their secrets before their stage show?” . . . They deliberately mean to test ones skills of observation for slight-of-hand maneuvers. It’s unfortunate, but knowing too much puts one at risk in this not-so-safe world. I might have been better off not participating on an open forum subject to nefarious searches, but I chose to add to a discussion not resolve it as research and development is on going with or without beliefs. . .Besides, credibility is easily fabricated to be convincing and what was said remains plausible without proof-i-ness.

“Be sure you’re right . . . then go ahead.” ~ Davy Crockett

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"Mind like parachute, must be open to function." ~ Charlie Chan - Famous Chinese detective character

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The Pentagon's UFO Program 3986 Aine 17-Dec-17 19:48
Mod Note > Topic Moved 432 Dr. Troglodyte 17-Dec-17 20:10
Fighter aircraft 552 Reagent 17-Dec-17 21:13
Re: Fighter aircraft 507 Aine 17-Dec-17 21:24
Oh please! 463 Reagent 17-Dec-17 22:40
Re: Oh please! 409 Aine 17-Dec-17 22:55
Apologies! 411 Reagent 17-Dec-17 23:14
Re: Apologies! 368 Aine 17-Dec-17 23:17
No Worries 379 Reagent 18-Dec-17 03:43
Re: No Worries 382 Archaic 18-Dec-17 03:54
Familiar acronym 344 Reagent 19-Dec-17 20:56
Re: No Worries 347 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:31
Fun, too 383 Reagent 18-Dec-17 18:51
Re: Fun, too 338 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:59
Language conundrum 348 Reagent 19-Dec-17 04:58
Re: Fun, too 274 altered-state 28-Mar-18 04:56
Not so safe secrecy 311 Reagent 29-Mar-18 09:17
Re: Not so safe secrecy 444 altered-state 29-Mar-18 15:01
We are not alone: Alien Presence 469 Sirhope 19-Dec-17 07:13
We are not alone; neither are they 343 Reagent 19-Dec-17 08:47
Re: We are not alone; neither are they 344 Sirhope 19-Dec-17 09:34
We are not alone; neither are they 362 Reagent 19-Dec-17 12:03
Title 14, Section 1211 of U.S. Federal Code: 362 Reagent 19-Dec-17 18:11
Re: Oh please! 350 Archaic 17-Dec-17 23:16
Re: Fighter aircraft 357 Archaic 17-Dec-17 22:46
Some context of what we're seeing in video 467 Archaic 17-Dec-17 22:36
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 445 Aine 17-Dec-17 22:48
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 371 Archaic 17-Dec-17 22:54
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 330 Aine 17-Dec-17 22:56
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 326 Aine 17-Dec-17 23:14
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 328 Archaic 17-Dec-17 23:54
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 379 Loki74 18-Dec-17 00:35
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 408 Loki74 18-Dec-17 00:47
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 316 Archaic 18-Dec-17 01:04
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 315 Loki74 18-Dec-17 01:22
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 325 Archaic 18-Dec-17 01:46
Here, Loki - Lazar's Credibility 353 Archaic 18-Dec-17 02:35
Re: Here, Loki - Lazar's Credibility 354 Loki74 18-Dec-17 11:01
Re: Here, Loki - Lazar's Credibility 255 altered-state 28-Mar-18 05:29
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 328 Loki74 18-Dec-17 00:22
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 408 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 03:44
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 315 jeffreyw 18-Dec-17 03:47
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 334 Archaic 18-Dec-17 04:07
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 316 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:33
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 375 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:50
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 321 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 05:10
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 382 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:49
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 390 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 17:41
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 366 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:10
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 379 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:25
1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 377 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:35
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 351 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:38
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 290 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:43
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 60 Archaic 25-Jun-19 10:01
2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 321 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:41
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 299 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:50
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 304 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:58
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 290 Aine 18-Dec-17 19:03
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 305 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 19:06
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 295 Aine 18-Dec-17 19:08
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 294 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 19:09
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 300 altered-state 28-Mar-18 05:43
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 251 Aine 28-Mar-18 13:02
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 270 altered-state 28-Mar-18 15:26
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 253 Aine 29-Mar-18 00:40
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 295 altered-state 29-Mar-18 01:32
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 378 Susan Doris 18-Dec-17 06:41
just got and started reading Leslie Kean's book on my kindle 319 greengirl5 18-Dec-17 07:02
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 378 Archaic 18-Dec-17 07:20
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 329 Susan Doris 18-Dec-17 10:09
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 327 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:56
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 386 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 17:34
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 289 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:46
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 306 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:12
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 299 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:14
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 304 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:22
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 315 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:39
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 368 Anomalies 01-Mar-18 20:11
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 240 Aine 28-Mar-18 00:08
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 256 altered-state 28-Mar-18 05:46
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 288 Anomalies 01-Mar-18 20:03
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 385 Vanya 18-Dec-17 07:36
Already posted 368 drrayeye 18-Dec-17 08:50
Re: Already posted 370 Vanya 18-Dec-17 10:09
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 397 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:54
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 323 Vanya 19-Dec-17 07:03
This today 383 Poster Boy 20-Dec-17 00:58
Re: This today 405 Aine 20-Dec-17 01:03
Re: This today 319 Aine 20-Dec-17 18:40
High hopes! 306 greengirl5 20-Dec-17 22:11
Re: High hopes! 302 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:11
Zimbabwae UFO case 350 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:26
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 317 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:31
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 334 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:41
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 343 Aine 21-Dec-17 02:02
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 290 Archaic 21-Dec-17 02:13
Could this be it? 329 greengirl5 21-Dec-17 03:18
Re: Could this be it? 283 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:18
And the one I could/did find... 333 Racho 21-Dec-17 05:34
Re: This today 346 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:23
Re: This today 326 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:25
Re: This today 280 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:23
Re: This today 309 Nolondil 21-Dec-17 01:27
Re: This today 315 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:31
Re: This today 291 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:39
Re: This today 339 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:52
Re: This today 292 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:57
Re: This today 284 Archaic 21-Dec-17 02:00
very limited consideration imv 297 Racho 21-Dec-17 01:34
Re: very limited consideration imv 333 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:37
try to envision 300 Racho 21-Dec-17 01:47
Re: try to envision 299 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:50
Re: try to envision 292 Nolondil 21-Dec-17 02:23
Re: try to envision 293 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:24
Re: try to envision 298 Racho 21-Dec-17 06:19
Re: try to envision 292 Aine 21-Dec-17 14:53
Re: try to envision 363 Aine 21-Dec-17 17:47
Re: This today 293 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:34
Other angles 432 Reagent 21-Dec-17 07:50
Re: Other angles 318 Aine 21-Dec-17 15:09
Other angles; in progress and deployed 310 Reagent 21-Dec-17 19:00
Re: Other angles; in progress and deployed 309 Aine 21-Dec-17 21:31
In progress and deployed 276 Reagent 22-Dec-17 00:30
Re: In progress and deployed 292 Aine 22-Dec-17 00:59
Re: This today 314 Poster Boy 22-Dec-17 16:43
Re: This today 313 Aine 22-Dec-17 20:39
Re: This today 316 Poster Boy 22-Dec-17 21:58
Re: This today 278 Aine 22-Dec-17 23:37
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 333 WhoWeird 20-Dec-17 21:32
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 324 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:54
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 316 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 02:18
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 299 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:27
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 287 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 12:44
Are all these kids corrupted? 291 Racho 21-Dec-17 06:27
Re: Are all these kids corrupted? 291 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 12:51
Re: Are all these kids corrupted? 293 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 13:21
Re: Are all these kids corrupted? 301 Aine 21-Dec-17 14:59
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 302 Aine 21-Dec-17 14:51
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 328 Archaic 21-Dec-17 02:22
CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 368 Archaic 21-Dec-17 20:44
Re: CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 364 Aine 21-Dec-17 21:29
Re: CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 357 drrayeye 21-Dec-17 23:53
Re: CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 345 Aine 22-Dec-17 02:24
disbelievers? 327 drrayeye 22-Dec-17 18:11
Re: disbelievers? 340 Aine 22-Dec-17 20:33
Re: disbelievers? 356 drrayeye 23-Dec-17 02:48
Re: disbelievers? 306 Aine 23-Dec-17 13:47
You don't see the difference? 320 drrayeye 23-Dec-17 18:41
Re: You don't see the difference? 328 Eddie Larry 23-Dec-17 19:32
Re: You don't see the difference? 393 Poster Boy 23-Dec-17 20:04
Re: You don't see the difference? 382 DUNE 02-Jan-18 16:59
Re: You don't see the difference? 448 Aine 02-Jan-18 18:49
US Navy Finally Opening Up About Odd Aerial Phenomena 107 Race Jackson 27-May-19 20:00
Mod Note > Duplicate Topic Merged 83 Dr. Troglodyte 27-May-19 22:02
HC USA Airing – Time Sensitive 83 Dr. Troglodyte 31-May-19 15:56
Re: HC USA Airing – Time Sensitive 77 Race Jackson 31-May-19 18:27
US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 105 Race Jackson 02-Jun-19 13:18
Re: US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 84 WhoWeird 02-Jun-19 13:25
Re: US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 95 Race Jackson 02-Jun-19 13:56
Re: US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 89 WhoWeird 02-Jun-19 14:01
Re: US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 97 Lee McGiffen 03-Jun-19 02:16
Re: US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 91 Race Jackson 03-Jun-19 18:44
Mod Note > Duplicate Topic Merged 75 Dr. Troglodyte 02-Jun-19 15:20
Mod Warning > Race Jackson 94 Dr. Troglodyte 02-Jun-19 15:22
Re: US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 64 Archaic 25-Jun-19 14:02
Tucker Carlson May 31st 2019 100 Race Jackson 07-Jun-19 00:49
SlaiciffO SoroboruO LaiciffO 84 Dr. Troglodyte 24-Jun-19 17:58
Thoughts 68 Race Jackson 25-Jun-19 15:15
Re: Thoughts 75 Dr. Troglodyte 25-Jun-19 17:00
Re: Thoughts 66 Archaic 26-Jun-19 11:28
Re: Thoughts 80 Dr. Troglodyte 26-Jun-19 16:05
US Navy Encounters Recent 72 Race Jackson 25-Jun-19 15:41


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