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I'm afraid I need evidence that we owe those technologies to aliens.


You don’t need evidence, but you want proof-i-ness. . . Certainly no points taken off for curiosity. Many of the technologies available back then simply took bits’n’parts and integrated ideas and hypothesized functions to further developments already underway because of post war concerns. An amalgamation of ingredients and observations, so to speak, probably best describes early research and development as it was – still does actually. Don’t take this the wrong way, but I’m not obligated to do your bidding, besides it’s the classic security measure not to be available, anyway, not even from the manufacturers as it’s not meant to be traceable. . . Nor will I give you click bait links to some lame story. . . Air gaps work wonders in many trades and this is one of them. . . Beliefs are a fickle-thing and they’re best left alone. Manufacturers aren’t obligated either, as it could be deemed as industrial espionage from their perspective and the inquisitor made a person of interest. They take their patents and profits very seriously in a capitalist economy.

If truly interested you could set out on your own investigation to research and inquire where they’re fabricated and manufactured as well as do a historical check on the basic ideas and their formulation into usable hardware - or simply do without knowing like many people do - not caring where the ideas or technology came from or how long it was in the making for consumer purchase, just so long as it works . . . *click,* *tap,* *swipe.* There’s actually quite a bit that goes into an end product such as a device that extends an otherwise limited sensory apparatus as human vision.


You could simply mark those developments down to gifts of fire, I suppose, but don’t blame Prometheus . . . And I a crank. . . I’m not concerned as name calling is bunk anyway. . . Appreciate that inquiry, though, and half expected it and knew an easy out answer wouldn’t be forthcoming, too, as it’s not meant to be. . . Ask yourself, “Do magicians reveal their secrets before their stage show?” . . . They deliberately mean to test ones skills of observation for slight-of-hand maneuvers. It’s unfortunate, but knowing too much puts one at risk in this not-so-safe world. I might have been better off not participating on an open forum subject to nefarious searches, but I chose to add to a discussion not resolve it as research and development is on going with or without beliefs. . .Besides, credibility is easily fabricated to be convincing and what was said remains plausible without proof-i-ness.

“Be sure you’re right . . . then go ahead.” ~ Davy Crockett

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"Mind like parachute, must be open to function." ~ Charlie Chan - Famous Chinese detective character

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The Pentagon's UFO Program 4211 Aine 17-Dec-17 19:48
Mod Note > Topic Moved 521 Dr. Troglodyte 17-Dec-17 20:10
Fighter aircraft 645 Reagent 17-Dec-17 21:13
Re: Fighter aircraft 592 Aine 17-Dec-17 21:24
Oh please! 528 Reagent 17-Dec-17 22:40
Re: Oh please! 482 Aine 17-Dec-17 22:55
Apologies! 495 Reagent 17-Dec-17 23:14
Re: Apologies! 451 Aine 17-Dec-17 23:17
No Worries 446 Reagent 18-Dec-17 03:43
Re: No Worries 465 Archaic 18-Dec-17 03:54
Familiar acronym 415 Reagent 19-Dec-17 20:56
Re: No Worries 419 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:31
Fun, too 467 Reagent 18-Dec-17 18:51
Re: Fun, too 414 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:59
Language conundrum 431 Reagent 19-Dec-17 04:58
Re: Fun, too 349 altered-state 28-Mar-18 04:56
Not so safe secrecy 391 Reagent 29-Mar-18 09:17
Re: Not so safe secrecy 532 altered-state 29-Mar-18 15:01
We are not alone: Alien Presence 561 Sirhope 19-Dec-17 07:13
We are not alone; neither are they 428 Reagent 19-Dec-17 08:47
Re: We are not alone; neither are they 436 Sirhope 19-Dec-17 09:34
We are not alone; neither are they 441 Reagent 19-Dec-17 12:03
Title 14, Section 1211 of U.S. Federal Code: 440 Reagent 19-Dec-17 18:11
Re: Oh please! 427 Archaic 17-Dec-17 23:16
Re: Fighter aircraft 427 Archaic 17-Dec-17 22:46
Some context of what we're seeing in video 527 Archaic 17-Dec-17 22:36
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 532 Aine 17-Dec-17 22:48
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 443 Archaic 17-Dec-17 22:54
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 405 Aine 17-Dec-17 22:56
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 401 Aine 17-Dec-17 23:14
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 395 Archaic 17-Dec-17 23:54
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 461 Loki74 18-Dec-17 00:35
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 479 Loki74 18-Dec-17 00:47
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 381 Archaic 18-Dec-17 01:04
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 386 Loki74 18-Dec-17 01:22
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 404 Archaic 18-Dec-17 01:46
Here, Loki - Lazar's Credibility 443 Archaic 18-Dec-17 02:35
Re: Here, Loki - Lazar's Credibility 432 Loki74 18-Dec-17 11:01
Re: Here, Loki - Lazar's Credibility 325 altered-state 28-Mar-18 05:29
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 397 Loki74 18-Dec-17 00:22
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 481 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 03:44
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 381 jeffreyw 18-Dec-17 03:47
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 401 Archaic 18-Dec-17 04:07
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 384 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:33
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 442 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:50
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 394 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 05:10
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 462 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:49
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 460 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 17:41
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 432 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:10
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 455 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:25
1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 449 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:35
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 434 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:38
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 366 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:43
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 142 Archaic 25-Jun-19 10:01
2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 399 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:41
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 370 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:50
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 375 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:58
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 363 Aine 18-Dec-17 19:03
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 393 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 19:06
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 378 Aine 18-Dec-17 19:08
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 379 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 19:09
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 387 altered-state 28-Mar-18 05:43
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 324 Aine 28-Mar-18 13:02
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 336 altered-state 28-Mar-18 15:26
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 319 Aine 29-Mar-18 00:40
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 376 altered-state 29-Mar-18 01:32
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 451 Susan Doris 18-Dec-17 06:41
just got and started reading Leslie Kean's book on my kindle 389 greengirl5 18-Dec-17 07:02
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 462 Archaic 18-Dec-17 07:20
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 401 Susan Doris 18-Dec-17 10:09
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 393 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:56
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 457 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 17:34
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 359 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:46
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 392 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:12
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 369 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:14
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 373 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:22
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 382 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:39
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 457 Anomalies 01-Mar-18 20:11
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 312 Aine 28-Mar-18 00:08
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 324 altered-state 28-Mar-18 05:46
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 357 Anomalies 01-Mar-18 20:03
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 470 Vanya 18-Dec-17 07:36
Already posted 434 drrayeye 18-Dec-17 08:50
Re: Already posted 449 Vanya 18-Dec-17 10:09
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 465 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:54
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 388 Vanya 19-Dec-17 07:03
This today 457 Poster Boy 20-Dec-17 00:58
Re: This today 482 Aine 20-Dec-17 01:03
Re: This today 397 Aine 20-Dec-17 18:40
High hopes! 378 greengirl5 20-Dec-17 22:11
Re: High hopes! 370 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:11
Zimbabwae UFO case 413 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:26
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 394 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:31
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 410 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:41
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 413 Aine 21-Dec-17 02:02
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 356 Archaic 21-Dec-17 02:13
Could this be it? 403 greengirl5 21-Dec-17 03:18
Re: Could this be it? 364 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:18
And the one I could/did find... 401 Racho 21-Dec-17 05:34
Re: This today 432 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:23
Re: This today 398 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:25
Re: This today 345 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:23
Re: This today 384 Nolondil 21-Dec-17 01:27
Re: This today 392 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:31
Re: This today 371 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:39
Re: This today 406 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:52
Re: This today 369 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:57
Re: This today 365 Archaic 21-Dec-17 02:00
very limited consideration imv 376 Racho 21-Dec-17 01:34
Re: very limited consideration imv 396 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:37
try to envision 366 Racho 21-Dec-17 01:47
Re: try to envision 381 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:50
Re: try to envision 355 Nolondil 21-Dec-17 02:23
Re: try to envision 388 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:24
Re: try to envision 370 Racho 21-Dec-17 06:19
Re: try to envision 366 Aine 21-Dec-17 14:53
Re: try to envision 432 Aine 21-Dec-17 17:47
Re: This today 378 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:34
Other angles 505 Reagent 21-Dec-17 07:50
Re: Other angles 397 Aine 21-Dec-17 15:09
Other angles; in progress and deployed 381 Reagent 21-Dec-17 19:00
Re: Other angles; in progress and deployed 394 Aine 21-Dec-17 21:31
In progress and deployed 340 Reagent 22-Dec-17 00:30
Re: In progress and deployed 367 Aine 22-Dec-17 00:59
Re: This today 386 Poster Boy 22-Dec-17 16:43
Re: This today 404 Aine 22-Dec-17 20:39
Re: This today 383 Poster Boy 22-Dec-17 21:58
Re: This today 344 Aine 22-Dec-17 23:37
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 398 WhoWeird 20-Dec-17 21:32
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 399 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:54
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 381 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 02:18
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 377 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:27
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 357 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 12:44
Are all these kids corrupted? 371 Racho 21-Dec-17 06:27
Re: Are all these kids corrupted? 357 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 12:51
Re: Are all these kids corrupted? 366 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 13:21
Re: Are all these kids corrupted? 378 Aine 21-Dec-17 14:59
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 377 Aine 21-Dec-17 14:51
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 397 Archaic 21-Dec-17 02:22
CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 457 Archaic 21-Dec-17 20:44
Re: CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 449 Aine 21-Dec-17 21:29
Re: CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 438 drrayeye 21-Dec-17 23:53
Re: CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 433 Aine 22-Dec-17 02:24
disbelievers? 397 drrayeye 22-Dec-17 18:11
Re: disbelievers? 413 Aine 22-Dec-17 20:33
Re: disbelievers? 435 drrayeye 23-Dec-17 02:48
Re: disbelievers? 384 Aine 23-Dec-17 13:47
You don't see the difference? 402 drrayeye 23-Dec-17 18:41
Re: You don't see the difference? 407 Eddie Larry 23-Dec-17 19:32
Re: You don't see the difference? 482 Poster Boy 23-Dec-17 20:04
Re: You don't see the difference? 455 DUNE 02-Jan-18 16:59
Re: You don't see the difference? 532 Aine 02-Jan-18 18:49
US Navy Finally Opening Up About Odd Aerial Phenomena 175 Race Jackson 27-May-19 20:00
Mod Note > Duplicate Topic Merged 165 Dr. Troglodyte 27-May-19 22:02
HC USA Airing – Time Sensitive 155 Dr. Troglodyte 31-May-19 15:56
Re: HC USA Airing – Time Sensitive 151 Race Jackson 31-May-19 18:27
US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 187 Race Jackson 02-Jun-19 13:18
Re: US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 169 WhoWeird 02-Jun-19 13:25
Re: US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 173 Race Jackson 02-Jun-19 13:56
Re: US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 157 WhoWeird 02-Jun-19 14:01
Re: US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 166 Lee McGiffen 03-Jun-19 02:16
Re: US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 175 Race Jackson 03-Jun-19 18:44
Mod Note > Duplicate Topic Merged 151 Dr. Troglodyte 02-Jun-19 15:20
Mod Warning > Race Jackson 171 Dr. Troglodyte 02-Jun-19 15:22
Re: US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 140 Archaic 25-Jun-19 14:02
Tucker Carlson May 31st 2019 794 Race Jackson 07-Jun-19 00:49
SlaiciffO SoroboruO LaiciffO 172 Dr. Troglodyte 24-Jun-19 17:58
Thoughts 148 Race Jackson 25-Jun-19 15:15
Re: Thoughts 147 Dr. Troglodyte 25-Jun-19 17:00
Re: Thoughts 142 Archaic 26-Jun-19 11:28
Re: Thoughts 182 Dr. Troglodyte 26-Jun-19 16:05
US Navy Encounters Recent 147 Race Jackson 25-Jun-19 15:41


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