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Aine
I'm afraid I need evidence that we owe those technologies to aliens.


You don’t need evidence, but you want proof-i-ness. . . Certainly no points taken off for curiosity. Many of the technologies available back then simply took bits’n’parts and integrated ideas and hypothesized functions to further developments already underway because of post war concerns. An amalgamation of ingredients and observations, so to speak, probably best describes early research and development as it was – still does actually. Don’t take this the wrong way, but I’m not obligated to do your bidding, besides it’s the classic security measure not to be available, anyway, not even from the manufacturers as it’s not meant to be traceable. . . Nor will I give you click bait links to some lame story. . . Air gaps work wonders in many trades and this is one of them. . . Beliefs are a fickle-thing and they’re best left alone. Manufacturers aren’t obligated either, as it could be deemed as industrial espionage from their perspective and the inquisitor made a person of interest. They take their patents and profits very seriously in a capitalist economy.

If truly interested you could set out on your own investigation to research and inquire where they’re fabricated and manufactured as well as do a historical check on the basic ideas and their formulation into usable hardware - or simply do without knowing like many people do - not caring where the ideas or technology came from or how long it was in the making for consumer purchase, just so long as it works . . . *click,* *tap,* *swipe.* There’s actually quite a bit that goes into an end product such as a device that extends an otherwise limited sensory apparatus as human vision.


You could simply mark those developments down to gifts of fire, I suppose, but don’t blame Prometheus . . . And I a crank. . . I’m not concerned as name calling is bunk anyway. . . Appreciate that inquiry, though, and half expected it and knew an easy out answer wouldn’t be forthcoming, too, as it’s not meant to be. . . Ask yourself, “Do magicians reveal their secrets before their stage show?” . . . They deliberately mean to test ones skills of observation for slight-of-hand maneuvers. It’s unfortunate, but knowing too much puts one at risk in this not-so-safe world. I might have been better off not participating on an open forum subject to nefarious searches, but I chose to add to a discussion not resolve it as research and development is on going with or without beliefs. . .Besides, credibility is easily fabricated to be convincing and what was said remains plausible without proof-i-ness.

“Be sure you’re right . . . then go ahead.” ~ Davy Crockett

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The Pentagon's UFO Program 2827 Aine 17-Dec-17 19:48
Mod Note > Topic Moved 317 Dr. Troglodyte 17-Dec-17 20:10
Fighter aircraft 422 Reagent 17-Dec-17 21:13
Re: Fighter aircraft 391 Aine 17-Dec-17 21:24
Oh please! 348 Reagent 17-Dec-17 22:40
Re: Oh please! 307 Aine 17-Dec-17 22:55
Apologies! 308 Reagent 17-Dec-17 23:14
Re: Apologies! 275 Aine 17-Dec-17 23:17
No Worries 281 Reagent 18-Dec-17 03:43
Re: No Worries 291 Archaic 18-Dec-17 03:54
Familiar acronym 255 Reagent 19-Dec-17 20:56
Re: No Worries 252 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:31
Fun, too 290 Reagent 18-Dec-17 18:51
Re: Fun, too 247 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:59
Language conundrum 261 Reagent 19-Dec-17 04:58
Re: Fun, too 188 altered-state 28-Mar-18 04:56
Not so safe secrecy 222 Reagent 29-Mar-18 09:17
Re: Not so safe secrecy 351 altered-state 29-Mar-18 15:01
We are not alone: Alien Presence 356 Sirhope 19-Dec-17 07:13
We are not alone; neither are they 250 Reagent 19-Dec-17 08:47
Re: We are not alone; neither are they 251 Sirhope 19-Dec-17 09:34
We are not alone; neither are they 263 Reagent 19-Dec-17 12:03
Title 14, Section 1211 of U.S. Federal Code: 266 Reagent 19-Dec-17 18:11
Re: Oh please! 265 Archaic 17-Dec-17 23:16
Re: Fighter aircraft 273 Archaic 17-Dec-17 22:46
Some context of what we're seeing in video 365 Archaic 17-Dec-17 22:36
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 362 Aine 17-Dec-17 22:48
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 283 Archaic 17-Dec-17 22:54
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 246 Aine 17-Dec-17 22:56
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 245 Aine 17-Dec-17 23:14
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 250 Archaic 17-Dec-17 23:54
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 298 Loki74 18-Dec-17 00:35
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 320 Loki74 18-Dec-17 00:47
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 236 Archaic 18-Dec-17 01:04
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 239 Loki74 18-Dec-17 01:22
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 244 Archaic 18-Dec-17 01:46
Here, Loki - Lazar's Credibility 268 Archaic 18-Dec-17 02:35
Re: Here, Loki - Lazar's Credibility 271 Loki74 18-Dec-17 11:01
Re: Here, Loki - Lazar's Credibility 174 altered-state 28-Mar-18 05:29
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 247 Loki74 18-Dec-17 00:22
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 325 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 03:44
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 232 jeffreyw 18-Dec-17 03:47
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 249 Archaic 18-Dec-17 04:07
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 240 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:33
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 289 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:50
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 244 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 05:10
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 301 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:49
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 307 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 17:41
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 286 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:10
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 293 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:25
1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 298 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:35
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 272 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:38
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 211 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:43
2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 243 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:41
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 225 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:50
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 225 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:58
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 212 Aine 18-Dec-17 19:03
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 222 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 19:06
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 214 Aine 18-Dec-17 19:08
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 217 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 19:09
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 214 altered-state 28-Mar-18 05:43
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 176 Aine 28-Mar-18 13:02
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 189 altered-state 28-Mar-18 15:26
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 174 Aine 29-Mar-18 00:40
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 198 altered-state 29-Mar-18 01:32
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 297 Susan Doris 18-Dec-17 06:41
just got and started reading Leslie Kean's book on my kindle 241 greengirl5 18-Dec-17 07:02
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 300 Archaic 18-Dec-17 07:20
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 249 Susan Doris 18-Dec-17 10:09
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 245 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:56
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 308 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 17:34
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 216 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:46
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 229 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:12
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 217 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:14
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 221 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:22
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 215 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:39
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 276 Anomalies 01-Mar-18 20:11
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 164 Aine 28-Mar-18 00:08
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 176 altered-state 28-Mar-18 05:46
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 204 Anomalies 01-Mar-18 20:03
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 303 Vanya 18-Dec-17 07:36
Already posted 294 drrayeye 18-Dec-17 08:50
Re: Already posted 292 Vanya 18-Dec-17 10:09
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 316 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:54
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 250 Vanya 19-Dec-17 07:03
This today 302 Poster Boy 20-Dec-17 00:58
Re: This today 319 Aine 20-Dec-17 01:03
Re: This today 241 Aine 20-Dec-17 18:40
High hopes! 226 greengirl5 20-Dec-17 22:11
Re: High hopes! 228 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:11
Zimbabwae UFO case 266 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:26
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 236 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:31
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 254 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:41
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 265 Aine 21-Dec-17 02:02
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 217 Archaic 21-Dec-17 02:13
Could this be it? 243 greengirl5 21-Dec-17 03:18
Re: Could this be it? 211 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:18
And the one I could/did find... 250 Racho 21-Dec-17 05:34
Re: This today 262 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:23
Re: This today 241 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:25
Re: This today 199 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:23
Re: This today 227 Nolondil 21-Dec-17 01:27
Re: This today 237 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:31
Re: This today 214 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:39
Re: This today 243 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:52
Re: This today 214 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:57
Re: This today 209 Archaic 21-Dec-17 02:00
very limited consideration imv 216 Racho 21-Dec-17 01:34
Re: very limited consideration imv 250 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:37
try to envision 223 Racho 21-Dec-17 01:47
Re: try to envision 225 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:50
Re: try to envision 217 Nolondil 21-Dec-17 02:23
Re: try to envision 216 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:24
Re: try to envision 211 Racho 21-Dec-17 06:19
Re: try to envision 216 Aine 21-Dec-17 14:53
Re: try to envision 287 Aine 21-Dec-17 17:47
Re: This today 219 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:34
Other angles 353 Reagent 21-Dec-17 07:50
Re: Other angles 242 Aine 21-Dec-17 15:09
Other angles; in progress and deployed 231 Reagent 21-Dec-17 19:00
Re: Other angles; in progress and deployed 233 Aine 21-Dec-17 21:31
In progress and deployed 203 Reagent 22-Dec-17 00:30
Re: In progress and deployed 210 Aine 22-Dec-17 00:59
Re: This today 237 Poster Boy 22-Dec-17 16:43
Re: This today 235 Aine 22-Dec-17 20:39
Re: This today 236 Poster Boy 22-Dec-17 21:58
Re: This today 205 Aine 22-Dec-17 23:37
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 249 WhoWeird 20-Dec-17 21:32
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 245 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:54
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 239 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 02:18
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 222 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:27
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 207 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 12:44
Are all these kids corrupted? 213 Racho 21-Dec-17 06:27
Re: Are all these kids corrupted? 212 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 12:51
Re: Are all these kids corrupted? 207 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 13:21
Re: Are all these kids corrupted? 220 Aine 21-Dec-17 14:59
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 228 Aine 21-Dec-17 14:51
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 249 Archaic 21-Dec-17 02:22
CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 271 Archaic 21-Dec-17 20:44
Re: CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 276 Aine 21-Dec-17 21:29
Re: CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 260 drrayeye 21-Dec-17 23:53
Re: CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 260 Aine 22-Dec-17 02:24
disbelievers? 254 drrayeye 22-Dec-17 18:11
Re: disbelievers? 249 Aine 22-Dec-17 20:33
Re: disbelievers? 278 drrayeye 23-Dec-17 02:48
Re: disbelievers? 231 Aine 23-Dec-17 13:47
You don't see the difference? 242 drrayeye 23-Dec-17 18:41
Re: You don't see the difference? 251 Eddie Larry 23-Dec-17 19:32
Re: You don't see the difference? 305 Poster Boy 23-Dec-17 20:04
Re: You don't see the difference? 295 DUNE 02-Jan-18 16:59
Re: You don't see the difference? 354 Aine 02-Jan-18 18:49


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