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Reagent Wrote:

> At any rate, one angle to consider are the
> security issues and need-to-know access that
> previously classified materials or even currently
> classified materials entail outside military
> protocol. . . Military Research and Development
> methodology is not an excessively public domain
> with easy access. Nor am I one to write the book
> on it presently. . . With projects outsourced,
> there’s often a vetting process that occurs.
> Socio-economic, management of industry, financial
> support of manufacturing / fabrication and, in a
> capitalist based economy, there’s patenting and
> profits to consider as well as eventual public and
> adversarial exposure of product spinoff
> development from unique resources. . . One should
> include staff personnel or employees also. . .

We considered this angle and I think it's probably the security issue that keeps the government from allowing these items to be further tested in academic labs.

> It will affect economy based investment procedures
> and expectations on global markets. They [private
> enterprises] often need to input an initial sum to
> continue research and development as well as see
> to their employee wages. The military
> establishment does seek potential
> developments of military utility geared toward
> their mandate – National Security. . . The
> military cannot seek a profit based outcome, but
> one should expect and allow private enterprises
> that privilege in a free and democratic society.
> The military does not necessarily claim
> originality, either, of initial ideas or back
> engineering observations from captured source
> materials. Credits stay with the private sector.

Except here's the thing. You'd think that somewhere along the line, we'd put that technology to use. We haven't. If it exists, why haven't we done anything with it?

> One angle, maybe two, regarding element
> identification might have to do with currently
> known elements and isotopes to those hypothesized
> which, as I recall Prof Stephen Hawking
> theorizing that there might be 200 elements, or
> so, to fill the period table of elements. Another
> source less contemporary suggests that there are
> 266 elements. Laird Scranton has elaborated
> on that angle and is a member on the forum boards
> where his input can be searched. He’s also
> written books on related material.

I would love to know where Hawking gets that from. For all his brilliance, he's like Fred Hoyle. He can really go over the cliff sometimes. At anything over 137, the periodic table, which is based on electron orbitals, breaks down. See the Dirac equation. The superactinide series allows for elements 121-157, but after that it gets really messy. The upper limit may go to around 173, but that is entirely theoretical.

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The Pentagon's UFO Program 2746 Aine 17-Dec-17 19:48
Mod Note > Topic Moved 277 Dr. Troglodyte 17-Dec-17 20:10
Fighter aircraft 379 Reagent 17-Dec-17 21:13
Re: Fighter aircraft 354 Aine 17-Dec-17 21:24
Oh please! 313 Reagent 17-Dec-17 22:40
Re: Oh please! 272 Aine 17-Dec-17 22:55
Apologies! 267 Reagent 17-Dec-17 23:14
Re: Apologies! 240 Aine 17-Dec-17 23:17
No Worries 249 Reagent 18-Dec-17 03:43
Re: No Worries 259 Archaic 18-Dec-17 03:54
Familiar acronym 224 Reagent 19-Dec-17 20:56
Re: No Worries 221 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:31
Fun, too 249 Reagent 18-Dec-17 18:51
Re: Fun, too 218 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:59
Language conundrum 228 Reagent 19-Dec-17 04:58
Re: Fun, too 157 altered-state 28-Mar-18 04:56
Not so safe secrecy 189 Reagent 29-Mar-18 09:17
Re: Not so safe secrecy 306 altered-state 29-Mar-18 15:01
We are not alone: Alien Presence 319 Sirhope 19-Dec-17 07:13
We are not alone; neither are they 219 Reagent 19-Dec-17 08:47
Re: We are not alone; neither are they 219 Sirhope 19-Dec-17 09:34
We are not alone; neither are they 225 Reagent 19-Dec-17 12:03
Title 14, Section 1211 of U.S. Federal Code: 227 Reagent 19-Dec-17 18:11
Re: Oh please! 233 Archaic 17-Dec-17 23:16
Re: Fighter aircraft 240 Archaic 17-Dec-17 22:46
Some context of what we're seeing in video 324 Archaic 17-Dec-17 22:36
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 326 Aine 17-Dec-17 22:48
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 244 Archaic 17-Dec-17 22:54
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 211 Aine 17-Dec-17 22:56
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 212 Aine 17-Dec-17 23:14
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 221 Archaic 17-Dec-17 23:54
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 266 Loki74 18-Dec-17 00:35
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 285 Loki74 18-Dec-17 00:47
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 208 Archaic 18-Dec-17 01:04
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 209 Loki74 18-Dec-17 01:22
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 212 Archaic 18-Dec-17 01:46
Here, Loki - Lazar's Credibility 235 Archaic 18-Dec-17 02:35
Re: Here, Loki - Lazar's Credibility 238 Loki74 18-Dec-17 11:01
Re: Here, Loki - Lazar's Credibility 145 altered-state 28-Mar-18 05:29
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 219 Loki74 18-Dec-17 00:22
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 288 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 03:44
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 202 jeffreyw 18-Dec-17 03:47
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 215 Archaic 18-Dec-17 04:07
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 210 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:33
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 252 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:50
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 211 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 05:10
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 265 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:49
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 274 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 17:41
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 249 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:10
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 256 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:25
1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 265 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:35
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 233 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:38
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 183 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:43
2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 209 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:41
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 194 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:50
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 196 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:58
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 182 Aine 18-Dec-17 19:03
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 191 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 19:06
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 183 Aine 18-Dec-17 19:08
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 187 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 19:09
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 173 altered-state 28-Mar-18 05:43
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 146 Aine 28-Mar-18 13:02
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 156 altered-state 28-Mar-18 15:26
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 144 Aine 29-Mar-18 00:40
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 161 altered-state 29-Mar-18 01:32
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 263 Susan Doris 18-Dec-17 06:41
just got and started reading Leslie Kean's book on my kindle 213 greengirl5 18-Dec-17 07:02
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 266 Archaic 18-Dec-17 07:20
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 218 Susan Doris 18-Dec-17 10:09
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 216 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:56
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 278 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 17:34
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 189 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:46
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 196 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:12
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 188 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:14
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 189 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:22
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 183 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:39
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 238 Anomalies 01-Mar-18 20:11
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 136 Aine 28-Mar-18 00:08
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 147 altered-state 28-Mar-18 05:46
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 170 Anomalies 01-Mar-18 20:03
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 264 Vanya 18-Dec-17 07:36
Already posted 261 drrayeye 18-Dec-17 08:50
Re: Already posted 256 Vanya 18-Dec-17 10:09
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 279 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:54
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 220 Vanya 19-Dec-17 07:03
This today 271 Poster Boy 20-Dec-17 00:58
Re: This today 286 Aine 20-Dec-17 01:03
Re: This today 212 Aine 20-Dec-17 18:40
High hopes! 197 greengirl5 20-Dec-17 22:11
Re: High hopes! 198 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:11
Zimbabwae UFO case 230 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:26
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 203 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:31
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 218 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:41
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 232 Aine 21-Dec-17 02:02
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 190 Archaic 21-Dec-17 02:13
Could this be it? 209 greengirl5 21-Dec-17 03:18
Re: Could this be it? 182 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:18
And the one I could/did find... 215 Racho 21-Dec-17 05:34
Re: This today 229 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:23
Re: This today 208 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:25
Re: This today 171 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:23
Re: This today 199 Nolondil 21-Dec-17 01:27
Re: This today 202 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:31
Re: This today 186 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:39
Re: This today 209 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:52
Re: This today 185 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:57
Re: This today 181 Archaic 21-Dec-17 02:00
very limited consideration imv 188 Racho 21-Dec-17 01:34
Re: very limited consideration imv 211 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:37
try to envision 195 Racho 21-Dec-17 01:47
Re: try to envision 195 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:50
Re: try to envision 190 Nolondil 21-Dec-17 02:23
Re: try to envision 186 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:24
Re: try to envision 181 Racho 21-Dec-17 06:19
Re: try to envision 187 Aine 21-Dec-17 14:53
Re: try to envision 254 Aine 21-Dec-17 17:47
Re: This today 189 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:34
Other angles 319 Reagent 21-Dec-17 07:50
Re: Other angles 211 Aine 21-Dec-17 15:09
Other angles; in progress and deployed 199 Reagent 21-Dec-17 19:00
Re: Other angles; in progress and deployed 203 Aine 21-Dec-17 21:31
In progress and deployed 177 Reagent 22-Dec-17 00:30
Re: In progress and deployed 181 Aine 22-Dec-17 00:59
Re: This today 205 Poster Boy 22-Dec-17 16:43
Re: This today 200 Aine 22-Dec-17 20:39
Re: This today 202 Poster Boy 22-Dec-17 21:58
Re: This today 177 Aine 22-Dec-17 23:37
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 216 WhoWeird 20-Dec-17 21:32
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 211 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:54
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 208 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 02:18
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 194 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:27
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 177 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 12:44
Are all these kids corrupted? 184 Racho 21-Dec-17 06:27
Re: Are all these kids corrupted? 182 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 12:51
Re: Are all these kids corrupted? 178 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 13:21
Re: Are all these kids corrupted? 189 Aine 21-Dec-17 14:59
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 193 Aine 21-Dec-17 14:51
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 217 Archaic 21-Dec-17 02:22
CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 232 Archaic 21-Dec-17 20:44
Re: CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 239 Aine 21-Dec-17 21:29
Re: CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 223 drrayeye 21-Dec-17 23:53
Re: CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 225 Aine 22-Dec-17 02:24
disbelievers? 222 drrayeye 22-Dec-17 18:11
Re: disbelievers? 212 Aine 22-Dec-17 20:33
Re: disbelievers? 244 drrayeye 23-Dec-17 02:48
Re: disbelievers? 200 Aine 23-Dec-17 13:47
You don't see the difference? 213 drrayeye 23-Dec-17 18:41
Re: You don't see the difference? 219 Eddie Larry 23-Dec-17 19:32
Re: You don't see the difference? 272 Poster Boy 23-Dec-17 20:04
Re: You don't see the difference? 262 DUNE 02-Jan-18 16:59
Re: You don't see the difference? 324 Aine 02-Jan-18 18:49


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