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Reagent Wrote:

> At any rate, one angle to consider are the
> security issues and need-to-know access that
> previously classified materials or even currently
> classified materials entail outside military
> protocol. . . Military Research and Development
> methodology is not an excessively public domain
> with easy access. Nor am I one to write the book
> on it presently. . . With projects outsourced,
> there’s often a vetting process that occurs.
> Socio-economic, management of industry, financial
> support of manufacturing / fabrication and, in a
> capitalist based economy, there’s patenting and
> profits to consider as well as eventual public and
> adversarial exposure of product spinoff
> development from unique resources. . . One should
> include staff personnel or employees also. . .

We considered this angle and I think it's probably the security issue that keeps the government from allowing these items to be further tested in academic labs.

> It will affect economy based investment procedures
> and expectations on global markets. They [private
> enterprises] often need to input an initial sum to
> continue research and development as well as see
> to their employee wages. The military
> establishment does seek potential
> developments of military utility geared toward
> their mandate – National Security. . . The
> military cannot seek a profit based outcome, but
> one should expect and allow private enterprises
> that privilege in a free and democratic society.
> The military does not necessarily claim
> originality, either, of initial ideas or back
> engineering observations from captured source
> materials. Credits stay with the private sector.

Except here's the thing. You'd think that somewhere along the line, we'd put that technology to use. We haven't. If it exists, why haven't we done anything with it?

> One angle, maybe two, regarding element
> identification might have to do with currently
> known elements and isotopes to those hypothesized
> which, as I recall Prof Stephen Hawking
> theorizing that there might be 200 elements, or
> so, to fill the period table of elements. Another
> source less contemporary suggests that there are
> 266 elements. Laird Scranton has elaborated
> on that angle and is a member on the forum boards
> where his input can be searched. He’s also
> written books on related material.

I would love to know where Hawking gets that from. For all his brilliance, he's like Fred Hoyle. He can really go over the cliff sometimes. At anything over 137, the periodic table, which is based on electron orbitals, breaks down. See the Dirac equation. The superactinide series allows for elements 121-157, but after that it gets really messy. The upper limit may go to around 173, but that is entirely theoretical.

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The Pentagon's UFO Program 2643 Aine 17-Dec-17 19:48
Mod Note > Topic Moved 229 Dr. Troglodyte 17-Dec-17 20:10
Fighter aircraft 334 Reagent 17-Dec-17 21:13
Re: Fighter aircraft 302 Aine 17-Dec-17 21:24
Oh please! 272 Reagent 17-Dec-17 22:40
Re: Oh please! 231 Aine 17-Dec-17 22:55
Apologies! 222 Reagent 17-Dec-17 23:14
Re: Apologies! 201 Aine 17-Dec-17 23:17
No Worries 212 Reagent 18-Dec-17 03:43
Re: No Worries 217 Archaic 18-Dec-17 03:54
Familiar acronym 187 Reagent 19-Dec-17 20:56
Re: No Worries 182 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:31
Fun, too 206 Reagent 18-Dec-17 18:51
Re: Fun, too 181 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:59
Language conundrum 187 Reagent 19-Dec-17 04:58
Re: Fun, too 116 altered-state 28-Mar-18 04:56
Not so safe secrecy 145 Reagent 29-Mar-18 09:17
Re: Not so safe secrecy 250 altered-state 29-Mar-18 15:01
We are not alone: Alien Presence 273 Sirhope 19-Dec-17 07:13
We are not alone; neither are they 178 Reagent 19-Dec-17 08:47
Re: We are not alone; neither are they 179 Sirhope 19-Dec-17 09:34
We are not alone; neither are they 184 Reagent 19-Dec-17 12:03
Title 14, Section 1211 of U.S. Federal Code: 185 Reagent 19-Dec-17 18:11
Re: Oh please! 195 Archaic 17-Dec-17 23:16
Re: Fighter aircraft 195 Archaic 17-Dec-17 22:46
Some context of what we're seeing in video 283 Archaic 17-Dec-17 22:36
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 278 Aine 17-Dec-17 22:48
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 201 Archaic 17-Dec-17 22:54
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 172 Aine 17-Dec-17 22:56
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 171 Aine 17-Dec-17 23:14
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 183 Archaic 17-Dec-17 23:54
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 214 Loki74 18-Dec-17 00:35
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 241 Loki74 18-Dec-17 00:47
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 168 Archaic 18-Dec-17 01:04
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 170 Loki74 18-Dec-17 01:22
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 174 Archaic 18-Dec-17 01:46
Here, Loki - Lazar's Credibility 197 Archaic 18-Dec-17 02:35
Re: Here, Loki - Lazar's Credibility 201 Loki74 18-Dec-17 11:01
Re: Here, Loki - Lazar's Credibility 106 altered-state 28-Mar-18 05:29
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 179 Loki74 18-Dec-17 00:22
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 244 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 03:44
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 165 jeffreyw 18-Dec-17 03:47
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 174 Archaic 18-Dec-17 04:07
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 169 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:33
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 205 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:50
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 174 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 05:10
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 217 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:49
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 223 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 17:41
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 202 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:10
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 214 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:25
1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 222 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:35
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 189 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:38
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 146 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:43
2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 166 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:41
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 155 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:50
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 158 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:58
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 146 Aine 18-Dec-17 19:03
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 153 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 19:06
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 146 Aine 18-Dec-17 19:08
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 148 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 19:09
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 126 altered-state 28-Mar-18 05:43
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 107 Aine 28-Mar-18 13:02
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 117 altered-state 28-Mar-18 15:26
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 105 Aine 29-Mar-18 00:40
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 122 altered-state 29-Mar-18 01:32
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 219 Susan Doris 18-Dec-17 06:41
just got and started reading Leslie Kean's book on my kindle 173 greengirl5 18-Dec-17 07:02
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 223 Archaic 18-Dec-17 07:20
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 178 Susan Doris 18-Dec-17 10:09
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 178 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:56
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 234 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 17:34
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 150 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:46
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 156 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:12
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 151 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:14
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 152 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:22
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 146 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:39
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 191 Anomalies 01-Mar-18 20:11
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 100 Aine 28-Mar-18 00:08
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 107 altered-state 28-Mar-18 05:46
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 127 Anomalies 01-Mar-18 20:03
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 216 Vanya 18-Dec-17 07:36
Already posted 209 drrayeye 18-Dec-17 08:50
Re: Already posted 206 Vanya 18-Dec-17 10:09
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 227 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:54
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 180 Vanya 19-Dec-17 07:03
This today 228 Poster Boy 20-Dec-17 00:58
Re: This today 236 Aine 20-Dec-17 01:03
Re: This today 173 Aine 20-Dec-17 18:40
High hopes! 159 greengirl5 20-Dec-17 22:11
Re: High hopes! 160 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:11
Zimbabwae UFO case 186 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:26
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 165 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:31
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 173 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:41
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 190 Aine 21-Dec-17 02:02
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 150 Archaic 21-Dec-17 02:13
Could this be it? 169 greengirl5 21-Dec-17 03:18
Re: Could this be it? 144 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:18
And the one I could/did find... 169 Racho 21-Dec-17 05:34
Re: This today 185 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:23
Re: This today 169 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:25
Re: This today 133 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:23
Re: This today 162 Nolondil 21-Dec-17 01:27
Re: This today 159 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:31
Re: This today 148 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:39
Re: This today 166 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:52
Re: This today 148 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:57
Re: This today 144 Archaic 21-Dec-17 02:00
very limited consideration imv 152 Racho 21-Dec-17 01:34
Re: very limited consideration imv 165 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:37
try to envision 156 Racho 21-Dec-17 01:47
Re: try to envision 156 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:50
Re: try to envision 155 Nolondil 21-Dec-17 02:23
Re: try to envision 148 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:24
Re: try to envision 142 Racho 21-Dec-17 06:19
Re: try to envision 148 Aine 21-Dec-17 14:53
Re: try to envision 208 Aine 21-Dec-17 17:47
Re: This today 150 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:34
Other angles 274 Reagent 21-Dec-17 07:50
Re: Other angles 171 Aine 21-Dec-17 15:09
Other angles; in progress and deployed 161 Reagent 21-Dec-17 19:00
Re: Other angles; in progress and deployed 163 Aine 21-Dec-17 21:31
In progress and deployed 141 Reagent 22-Dec-17 00:30
Re: In progress and deployed 142 Aine 22-Dec-17 00:59
Re: This today 161 Poster Boy 22-Dec-17 16:43
Re: This today 156 Aine 22-Dec-17 20:39
Re: This today 157 Poster Boy 22-Dec-17 21:58
Re: This today 138 Aine 22-Dec-17 23:37
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 178 WhoWeird 20-Dec-17 21:32
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 169 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:54
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 169 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 02:18
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 155 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:27
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 138 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 12:44
Are all these kids corrupted? 145 Racho 21-Dec-17 06:27
Re: Are all these kids corrupted? 143 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 12:51
Re: Are all these kids corrupted? 141 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 13:21
Re: Are all these kids corrupted? 151 Aine 21-Dec-17 14:59
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 155 Aine 21-Dec-17 14:51
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 174 Archaic 21-Dec-17 02:22
CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 186 Archaic 21-Dec-17 20:44
Re: CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 191 Aine 21-Dec-17 21:29
Re: CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 176 drrayeye 21-Dec-17 23:53
Re: CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 180 Aine 22-Dec-17 02:24
disbelievers? 183 drrayeye 22-Dec-17 18:11
Re: disbelievers? 172 Aine 22-Dec-17 20:33
Re: disbelievers? 199 drrayeye 23-Dec-17 02:48
Re: disbelievers? 161 Aine 23-Dec-17 13:47
You don't see the difference? 175 drrayeye 23-Dec-17 18:41
Re: You don't see the difference? 179 Eddie Larry 23-Dec-17 19:32
Re: You don't see the difference? 228 Poster Boy 23-Dec-17 20:04
Re: You don't see the difference? 219 DUNE 02-Jan-18 16:59
Re: You don't see the difference? 280 Aine 02-Jan-18 18:49


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