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WhoWeird Wrote:
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> I've never operated radar, so I can't give an
> experiential opinion. But my skepticism adheres to
> the same standards. Radar is an observed response,
> which can be flawed, to an event that occurred in
> the real world. Radar echoes, video recordings,
> and human optics are all corruptible.
>
> Let me see and touch this so-called extra-Terran
> matter, and I'll believe it exists. Otherwise, I'm
> just considering it.
>
> But I'm a skeptic, and that's no fun.

So, what would you accept as evidence, then? We believe lots of things with no direct evidence and no visual or experimental confirmation, do we not? Why is it just when it comes to UFOs that people demand incontrovertible proof?

Skeptics try to debunk reports of the phenomenon, not evidence. If radar echoes are corruptible, well, I hope you can prove that in each and every one of those cases the radar was corrupted. If you can't, you've got nothing.

1984 was a warning, not a how-to guide.

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The Pentagon's UFO Program 2641 Aine 17-Dec-17 19:48
Mod Note > Topic Moved 228 Dr. Troglodyte 17-Dec-17 20:10
Fighter aircraft 333 Reagent 17-Dec-17 21:13
Re: Fighter aircraft 301 Aine 17-Dec-17 21:24
Oh please! 271 Reagent 17-Dec-17 22:40
Re: Oh please! 230 Aine 17-Dec-17 22:55
Apologies! 221 Reagent 17-Dec-17 23:14
Re: Apologies! 200 Aine 17-Dec-17 23:17
No Worries 211 Reagent 18-Dec-17 03:43
Re: No Worries 215 Archaic 18-Dec-17 03:54
Familiar acronym 186 Reagent 19-Dec-17 20:56
Re: No Worries 181 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:31
Fun, too 204 Reagent 18-Dec-17 18:51
Re: Fun, too 180 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:59
Language conundrum 186 Reagent 19-Dec-17 04:58
Re: Fun, too 115 altered-state 28-Mar-18 04:56
Not so safe secrecy 144 Reagent 29-Mar-18 09:17
Re: Not so safe secrecy 250 altered-state 29-Mar-18 15:01
We are not alone: Alien Presence 272 Sirhope 19-Dec-17 07:13
We are not alone; neither are they 178 Reagent 19-Dec-17 08:47
Re: We are not alone; neither are they 179 Sirhope 19-Dec-17 09:34
We are not alone; neither are they 184 Reagent 19-Dec-17 12:03
Title 14, Section 1211 of U.S. Federal Code: 185 Reagent 19-Dec-17 18:11
Re: Oh please! 195 Archaic 17-Dec-17 23:16
Re: Fighter aircraft 195 Archaic 17-Dec-17 22:46
Some context of what we're seeing in video 283 Archaic 17-Dec-17 22:36
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 278 Aine 17-Dec-17 22:48
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 201 Archaic 17-Dec-17 22:54
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 171 Aine 17-Dec-17 22:56
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 170 Aine 17-Dec-17 23:14
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 183 Archaic 17-Dec-17 23:54
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 214 Loki74 18-Dec-17 00:35
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 241 Loki74 18-Dec-17 00:47
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 168 Archaic 18-Dec-17 01:04
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 170 Loki74 18-Dec-17 01:22
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 174 Archaic 18-Dec-17 01:46
Here, Loki - Lazar's Credibility 197 Archaic 18-Dec-17 02:35
Re: Here, Loki - Lazar's Credibility 201 Loki74 18-Dec-17 11:01
Re: Here, Loki - Lazar's Credibility 106 altered-state 28-Mar-18 05:29
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 179 Loki74 18-Dec-17 00:22
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 244 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 03:44
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 164 jeffreyw 18-Dec-17 03:47
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 174 Archaic 18-Dec-17 04:07
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 169 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:33
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 205 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:50
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 174 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 05:10
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 217 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:49
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 222 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 17:41
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 202 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:10
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 213 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:25
1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 222 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:35
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 189 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:38
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 146 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:43
2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 166 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:41
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 155 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:50
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 158 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:58
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 146 Aine 18-Dec-17 19:03
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 152 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 19:06
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 146 Aine 18-Dec-17 19:08
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 148 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 19:09
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 126 altered-state 28-Mar-18 05:43
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 107 Aine 28-Mar-18 13:02
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 117 altered-state 28-Mar-18 15:26
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 105 Aine 29-Mar-18 00:40
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 122 altered-state 29-Mar-18 01:32
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 218 Susan Doris 18-Dec-17 06:41
just got and started reading Leslie Kean's book on my kindle 173 greengirl5 18-Dec-17 07:02
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 223 Archaic 18-Dec-17 07:20
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 178 Susan Doris 18-Dec-17 10:09
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 178 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:56
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 234 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 17:34
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 150 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:46
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 156 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:12
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 151 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:14
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 152 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:22
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 146 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:39
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 191 Anomalies 01-Mar-18 20:11
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 100 Aine 28-Mar-18 00:08
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 107 altered-state 28-Mar-18 05:46
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 127 Anomalies 01-Mar-18 20:03
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 216 Vanya 18-Dec-17 07:36
Already posted 209 drrayeye 18-Dec-17 08:50
Re: Already posted 206 Vanya 18-Dec-17 10:09
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 227 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:54
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 180 Vanya 19-Dec-17 07:03
This today 228 Poster Boy 20-Dec-17 00:58
Re: This today 236 Aine 20-Dec-17 01:03
Re: This today 173 Aine 20-Dec-17 18:40
High hopes! 159 greengirl5 20-Dec-17 22:11
Re: High hopes! 160 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:11
Zimbabwae UFO case 186 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:26
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 165 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:31
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 173 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:41
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 190 Aine 21-Dec-17 02:02
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 150 Archaic 21-Dec-17 02:13
Could this be it? 168 greengirl5 21-Dec-17 03:18
Re: Could this be it? 144 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:18
And the one I could/did find... 169 Racho 21-Dec-17 05:34
Re: This today 185 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:23
Re: This today 169 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:25
Re: This today 133 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:23
Re: This today 162 Nolondil 21-Dec-17 01:27
Re: This today 159 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:31
Re: This today 148 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:39
Re: This today 166 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:52
Re: This today 148 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:57
Re: This today 143 Archaic 21-Dec-17 02:00
very limited consideration imv 152 Racho 21-Dec-17 01:34
Re: very limited consideration imv 164 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:37
try to envision 156 Racho 21-Dec-17 01:47
Re: try to envision 155 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:50
Re: try to envision 155 Nolondil 21-Dec-17 02:23
Re: try to envision 148 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:24
Re: try to envision 142 Racho 21-Dec-17 06:19
Re: try to envision 148 Aine 21-Dec-17 14:53
Re: try to envision 208 Aine 21-Dec-17 17:47
Re: This today 150 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:34
Other angles 274 Reagent 21-Dec-17 07:50
Re: Other angles 171 Aine 21-Dec-17 15:09
Other angles; in progress and deployed 161 Reagent 21-Dec-17 19:00
Re: Other angles; in progress and deployed 162 Aine 21-Dec-17 21:31
In progress and deployed 141 Reagent 22-Dec-17 00:30
Re: In progress and deployed 142 Aine 22-Dec-17 00:59
Re: This today 161 Poster Boy 22-Dec-17 16:43
Re: This today 156 Aine 22-Dec-17 20:39
Re: This today 157 Poster Boy 22-Dec-17 21:58
Re: This today 138 Aine 22-Dec-17 23:37
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 178 WhoWeird 20-Dec-17 21:32
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 169 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:54
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 169 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 02:18
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 154 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:27
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 138 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 12:44
Are all these kids corrupted? 145 Racho 21-Dec-17 06:27
Re: Are all these kids corrupted? 143 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 12:51
Re: Are all these kids corrupted? 141 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 13:21
Re: Are all these kids corrupted? 150 Aine 21-Dec-17 14:59
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 154 Aine 21-Dec-17 14:51
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 174 Archaic 21-Dec-17 02:22
CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 185 Archaic 21-Dec-17 20:44
Re: CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 191 Aine 21-Dec-17 21:29
Re: CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 176 drrayeye 21-Dec-17 23:53
Re: CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 180 Aine 22-Dec-17 02:24
disbelievers? 183 drrayeye 22-Dec-17 18:11
Re: disbelievers? 172 Aine 22-Dec-17 20:33
Re: disbelievers? 199 drrayeye 23-Dec-17 02:48
Re: disbelievers? 161 Aine 23-Dec-17 13:47
You don't see the difference? 175 drrayeye 23-Dec-17 18:41
Re: You don't see the difference? 178 Eddie Larry 23-Dec-17 19:32
Re: You don't see the difference? 228 Poster Boy 23-Dec-17 20:04
Re: You don't see the difference? 219 DUNE 02-Jan-18 16:59
Re: You don't see the difference? 280 Aine 02-Jan-18 18:49


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