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No worries!
>
> Could you please expand on your position on this?
> A lot of people around here don't understand why
> I'm so open minded on this, but I'd love to hear
> your thoughts.
>
> . . . Given that this is a public forum and
> subject to snoops using web crawlers, web
> sniffers, and web spiders without notice or
> privacy breach concerns I will digress to the
> short answer for now.
>
> I can say with a lot of in-between-the-lines
> fluffy prose I’m retired military and
> jack-of-several trades. . . . Not very informative
> for juicy prime time news I know. But one could
> appear before Congress under oath to testify on
> certain military actions (give my story as witness
> while active duty) where some immunity under law
> might apply. I’m not under a specific gage
> order. Not sworn to secrecy, though, does not
> negate my current obligations and responsibilities
> as a citizen to uphold the rule of law.
>
> I’ve known about some of this stuff – the
> others – flying craft - since I was a child in
> the 1950’s. . . Big deal, I say to those secret
> keepers of government and businesses, get over it
> already . . .The stigma in support of foul agendas
> is revolting even embarrassing as a presumed
> intelligent species as some scholars espouse
> despite their ignorance in these matters. The
> presence or existence of the others is not
> contingent on local terrestrial policies and
> bigotries or an approval rating in the first
> place. That’s my impression from them, anyway,
> for what it is.
>
> It wasn’t until I was active duty military that
> I learned of official regulations, instructions,
> and laws forbidding a citizen (or active duty
> military member) to initiate contact with the
> others on behalf of the Nation’s citizenry as a
> human representative – one of the rules 1211.***
> or something similar as it was the civilian
> version. The military was J***146 or something
> similar (it’s been awhile). . .Both have
> probably changed for security reasons and
> compartmentalization strategies to keep secrets
> from those without current need-to-know
> requirements. I can say this without
> repercussions.
>
> Did you know, it was the operatives in the Army
> and then elected government who started this
> charade and cover up. . . NOT the US Air Force . .
> . they got stuck with the charade while
> establishing a new founded arm of the US military
> months later in 1947 after the big noise and
> Kenneth Arnold aerial flap in the northwest.
> Technically true, too, probably the only non lie
> in this whole known spectacle. Heh Heh
>
> At any rate, my position: We are NOT alone . . .
> Thank you for your interest just the same. It’s
> not misplaced. Continue to scrutinize your
> sources, though. It’s a good habit if not a safe
> one to adopt.
>
> Richard

Thank you for your answer. I've no doubt that a lot of military and former military, as well as civilian pilots, know perfectly well that something is going on. You could say the same about the astronauts, cosmonauts, etc.

My personal view is that the most likely explanation is that UFOs are in fact ET. The trouble is sorting out the wheat from the chaff, the crazy from the not crazy.

Stupidity is knowing the truth, seeing the truth but still believing the lies. And that is more infectious than any other disease. ~ Richard Feynman

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The Pentagon's UFO Program 4661 Aine 17-Dec-17 19:48
Mod Note > Topic Moved 659 Dr. Troglodyte 17-Dec-17 20:10
Fighter aircraft 791 Reagent 17-Dec-17 21:13
Re: Fighter aircraft 728 Aine 17-Dec-17 21:24
Oh please! 664 Reagent 17-Dec-17 22:40
Re: Oh please! 605 Aine 17-Dec-17 22:55
Apologies! 639 Reagent 17-Dec-17 23:14
Re: Apologies! 587 Aine 17-Dec-17 23:17
No Worries 571 Reagent 18-Dec-17 03:43
Re: No Worries 582 Archaic 18-Dec-17 03:54
Familiar acronym 557 Reagent 19-Dec-17 20:56
Re: No Worries 547 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:31
Fun, too 612 Reagent 18-Dec-17 18:51
Re: Fun, too 532 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:59
Language conundrum 562 Reagent 19-Dec-17 04:58
Re: Fun, too 474 altered-state 28-Mar-18 04:56
Not so safe secrecy 532 Reagent 29-Mar-18 09:17
Re: Not so safe secrecy 663 altered-state 29-Mar-18 15:01
We are not alone: Alien Presence 689 Sirhope 19-Dec-17 07:13
We are not alone; neither are they 570 Reagent 19-Dec-17 08:47
Re: We are not alone; neither are they 554 Sirhope 19-Dec-17 09:34
We are not alone; neither are they 583 Reagent 19-Dec-17 12:03
Title 14, Section 1211 of U.S. Federal Code: 582 Reagent 19-Dec-17 18:11
Re: Oh please! 552 Archaic 17-Dec-17 23:16
Re: Fighter aircraft 559 Archaic 17-Dec-17 22:46
Some context of what we're seeing in video 655 Archaic 17-Dec-17 22:36
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 671 Aine 17-Dec-17 22:48
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 559 Archaic 17-Dec-17 22:54
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 534 Aine 17-Dec-17 22:56
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 530 Aine 17-Dec-17 23:14
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 518 Archaic 17-Dec-17 23:54
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 580 Loki74 18-Dec-17 00:35
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 621 Loki74 18-Dec-17 00:47
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 500 Archaic 18-Dec-17 01:04
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 506 Loki74 18-Dec-17 01:22
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 532 Archaic 18-Dec-17 01:46
Here, Loki - Lazar's Credibility 565 Archaic 18-Dec-17 02:35
Re: Here, Loki - Lazar's Credibility 573 Loki74 18-Dec-17 11:01
Re: Here, Loki - Lazar's Credibility 441 altered-state 28-Mar-18 05:29
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 520 Loki74 18-Dec-17 00:22
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 608 PB Bytes 18-Dec-17 03:44
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 512 jeffreyw 18-Dec-17 03:47
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 528 Archaic 18-Dec-17 04:07
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 502 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:33
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 574 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:50
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 527 PB Bytes 18-Dec-17 05:10
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 590 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:49
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 593 PB Bytes 18-Dec-17 17:41
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 548 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:10
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 595 PB Bytes 18-Dec-17 18:25
1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 578 PB Bytes 18-Dec-17 18:35
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 569 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:38
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 490 PB Bytes 18-Dec-17 18:43
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 264 Archaic 25-Jun-19 10:01
2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 531 PB Bytes 18-Dec-17 18:41
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 493 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:50
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 507 PB Bytes 18-Dec-17 18:58
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 487 Aine 18-Dec-17 19:03
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 528 PB Bytes 18-Dec-17 19:06
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 505 Aine 18-Dec-17 19:08
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 509 PB Bytes 18-Dec-17 19:09
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 525 altered-state 28-Mar-18 05:43
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 440 Aine 28-Mar-18 13:02
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 454 altered-state 28-Mar-18 15:26
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 432 Aine 29-Mar-18 00:40
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 506 altered-state 29-Mar-18 01:32
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 571 Susan Doris 18-Dec-17 06:41
just got and started reading Leslie Kean's book on my kindle 519 greengirl5 18-Dec-17 07:02
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 579 Archaic 18-Dec-17 07:20
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 524 Susan Doris 18-Dec-17 10:09
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 526 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:56
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 576 PB Bytes 18-Dec-17 17:34
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 474 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:46
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 539 PB Bytes 18-Dec-17 18:12
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 485 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:14
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 487 PB Bytes 18-Dec-17 18:22
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 513 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:39
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 611 Anomalies 01-Mar-18 20:11
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 435 Aine 28-Mar-18 00:08
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 443 altered-state 28-Mar-18 05:46
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 502 Anomalies 01-Mar-18 20:03
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 597 Vanya 18-Dec-17 07:36
Already posted 565 drrayeye 18-Dec-17 08:50
Re: Already posted 582 Vanya 18-Dec-17 10:09
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 598 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:54
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 518 Vanya 19-Dec-17 07:03
This today 594 PB Bytes 20-Dec-17 00:58
Re: This today 626 Aine 20-Dec-17 01:03
Re: This today 523 Aine 20-Dec-17 18:40
High hopes! 501 greengirl5 20-Dec-17 22:11
Re: High hopes! 488 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:11
Zimbabwae UFO case 530 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:26
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 520 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:31
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 541 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:41
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 541 Aine 21-Dec-17 02:02
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 463 Archaic 21-Dec-17 02:13
Could this be it? 538 greengirl5 21-Dec-17 03:18
Re: Could this be it? 494 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:18
And the one I could/did find... 520 Racho 21-Dec-17 05:34
Re: This today 564 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:23
Re: This today 544 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:25
Re: This today 464 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:23
Re: This today 510 Nolondil 21-Dec-17 01:27
Re: This today 513 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:31
Re: This today 492 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:39
Re: This today 531 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:52
Re: This today 485 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:57
Re: This today 484 Archaic 21-Dec-17 02:00
very limited consideration imv 506 Racho 21-Dec-17 01:34
Re: very limited consideration imv 515 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:37
try to envision 479 Racho 21-Dec-17 01:47
Re: try to envision 515 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:50
Re: try to envision 462 Nolondil 21-Dec-17 02:23
Re: try to envision 527 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:24
Re: try to envision 505 Racho 21-Dec-17 06:19
Re: try to envision 499 Aine 21-Dec-17 14:53
Re: try to envision 558 Aine 21-Dec-17 17:47
Re: This today 504 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:34
Other angles 623 Reagent 21-Dec-17 07:50
Re: Other angles 535 Aine 21-Dec-17 15:09
Other angles; in progress and deployed 511 Reagent 21-Dec-17 19:00
Re: Other angles; in progress and deployed 530 Aine 21-Dec-17 21:31
In progress and deployed 463 Reagent 22-Dec-17 00:30
Re: In progress and deployed 493 Aine 22-Dec-17 00:59
Re: This today 512 PB Bytes 22-Dec-17 16:43
Re: This today 538 Aine 22-Dec-17 20:39
Re: This today 500 PB Bytes 22-Dec-17 21:58
Re: This today 461 Aine 22-Dec-17 23:37
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 517 WhoWeird 20-Dec-17 21:32
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 522 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:54
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 504 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 02:18
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 497 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:27
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 479 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 12:44
Are all these kids corrupted? 502 Racho 21-Dec-17 06:27
Re: Are all these kids corrupted? 478 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 12:51
Re: Are all these kids corrupted? 483 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 13:21
Re: Are all these kids corrupted? 510 Aine 21-Dec-17 14:59
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 515 Aine 21-Dec-17 14:51
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 512 Archaic 21-Dec-17 02:22
CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 608 Archaic 21-Dec-17 20:44
Re: CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 581 Aine 21-Dec-17 21:29
Re: CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 554 drrayeye 21-Dec-17 23:53
Re: CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 570 Aine 22-Dec-17 02:24
disbelievers? 530 drrayeye 22-Dec-17 18:11
Re: disbelievers? 540 Aine 22-Dec-17 20:33
Re: disbelievers? 560 drrayeye 23-Dec-17 02:48
Re: disbelievers? 511 Aine 23-Dec-17 13:47
You don't see the difference? 518 drrayeye 23-Dec-17 18:41
Re: You don't see the difference? 543 Eddie Larry 23-Dec-17 19:32
Re: You don't see the difference? 615 PB Bytes 23-Dec-17 20:04
Re: You don't see the difference? 580 DUNE 02-Jan-18 16:59
Re: You don't see the difference? 659 Aine 02-Jan-18 18:49
US Navy Finally Opening Up About Odd Aerial Phenomena 284 Race Jackson 27-May-19 20:00
Mod Note > Duplicate Topic Merged 274 Dr. Troglodyte 27-May-19 22:02
HC USA Airing – Time Sensitive 264 Dr. Troglodyte 31-May-19 15:56
Re: HC USA Airing – Time Sensitive 271 Race Jackson 31-May-19 18:27
US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 309 Race Jackson 02-Jun-19 13:18
Re: US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 287 WhoWeird 02-Jun-19 13:25
Re: US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 288 Race Jackson 02-Jun-19 13:56
Re: US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 276 WhoWeird 02-Jun-19 14:01
Re: US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 289 Lee McGiffen 03-Jun-19 02:16
Re: US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 310 Race Jackson 03-Jun-19 18:44
Mod Note > Duplicate Topic Merged 267 Dr. Troglodyte 02-Jun-19 15:20
Mod Warning > Race Jackson 281 Dr. Troglodyte 02-Jun-19 15:22
Re: US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 257 Archaic 25-Jun-19 14:02
Tucker Carlson May 31st 2019 967 Race Jackson 07-Jun-19 00:49
SlaiciffO SoroboruO LaiciffO 315 Dr. Troglodyte 24-Jun-19 17:58
Thoughts 270 Race Jackson 25-Jun-19 15:15
Re: Thoughts 258 Dr. Troglodyte 25-Jun-19 17:00
Re: Thoughts 251 Archaic 26-Jun-19 11:28
Re: Thoughts 383 Dr. Troglodyte 26-Jun-19 16:05
US Navy Encounters Recent 262 Race Jackson 25-Jun-19 15:41


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