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No worries!
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> Could you please expand on your position on this?
> A lot of people around here don't understand why
> I'm so open minded on this, but I'd love to hear
> your thoughts.
>
> . . . Given that this is a public forum and
> subject to snoops using web crawlers, web
> sniffers, and web spiders without notice or
> privacy breach concerns I will digress to the
> short answer for now.
>
> I can say with a lot of in-between-the-lines
> fluffy prose I’m retired military and
> jack-of-several trades. . . . Not very informative
> for juicy prime time news I know. But one could
> appear before Congress under oath to testify on
> certain military actions (give my story as witness
> while active duty) where some immunity under law
> might apply. I’m not under a specific gage
> order. Not sworn to secrecy, though, does not
> negate my current obligations and responsibilities
> as a citizen to uphold the rule of law.
>
> I’ve known about some of this stuff – the
> others – flying craft - since I was a child in
> the 1950’s. . . Big deal, I say to those secret
> keepers of government and businesses, get over it
> already . . .The stigma in support of foul agendas
> is revolting even embarrassing as a presumed
> intelligent species as some scholars espouse
> despite their ignorance in these matters. The
> presence or existence of the others is not
> contingent on local terrestrial policies and
> bigotries or an approval rating in the first
> place. That’s my impression from them, anyway,
> for what it is.
>
> It wasn’t until I was active duty military that
> I learned of official regulations, instructions,
> and laws forbidding a citizen (or active duty
> military member) to initiate contact with the
> others on behalf of the Nation’s citizenry as a
> human representative – one of the rules 1211.***
> or something similar as it was the civilian
> version. The military was J***146 or something
> similar (it’s been awhile). . .Both have
> probably changed for security reasons and
> compartmentalization strategies to keep secrets
> from those without current need-to-know
> requirements. I can say this without
> repercussions.
>
> Did you know, it was the operatives in the Army
> and then elected government who started this
> charade and cover up. . . NOT the US Air Force . .
> . they got stuck with the charade while
> establishing a new founded arm of the US military
> months later in 1947 after the big noise and
> Kenneth Arnold aerial flap in the northwest.
> Technically true, too, probably the only non lie
> in this whole known spectacle. Heh Heh
>
> At any rate, my position: We are NOT alone . . .
> Thank you for your interest just the same. It’s
> not misplaced. Continue to scrutinize your
> sources, though. It’s a good habit if not a safe
> one to adopt.
>
> Richard

Thank you for your answer. I've no doubt that a lot of military and former military, as well as civilian pilots, know perfectly well that something is going on. You could say the same about the astronauts, cosmonauts, etc.

My personal view is that the most likely explanation is that UFOs are in fact ET. The trouble is sorting out the wheat from the chaff, the crazy from the not crazy.

1984 was a warning, not a how-to guide.

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The Pentagon's UFO Program 2643 Aine 17-Dec-17 19:48
Mod Note > Topic Moved 229 Dr. Troglodyte 17-Dec-17 20:10
Fighter aircraft 334 Reagent 17-Dec-17 21:13
Re: Fighter aircraft 302 Aine 17-Dec-17 21:24
Oh please! 272 Reagent 17-Dec-17 22:40
Re: Oh please! 231 Aine 17-Dec-17 22:55
Apologies! 222 Reagent 17-Dec-17 23:14
Re: Apologies! 201 Aine 17-Dec-17 23:17
No Worries 212 Reagent 18-Dec-17 03:43
Re: No Worries 217 Archaic 18-Dec-17 03:54
Familiar acronym 187 Reagent 19-Dec-17 20:56
Re: No Worries 182 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:31
Fun, too 206 Reagent 18-Dec-17 18:51
Re: Fun, too 181 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:59
Language conundrum 187 Reagent 19-Dec-17 04:58
Re: Fun, too 116 altered-state 28-Mar-18 04:56
Not so safe secrecy 145 Reagent 29-Mar-18 09:17
Re: Not so safe secrecy 252 altered-state 29-Mar-18 15:01
We are not alone: Alien Presence 273 Sirhope 19-Dec-17 07:13
We are not alone; neither are they 179 Reagent 19-Dec-17 08:47
Re: We are not alone; neither are they 180 Sirhope 19-Dec-17 09:34
We are not alone; neither are they 185 Reagent 19-Dec-17 12:03
Title 14, Section 1211 of U.S. Federal Code: 187 Reagent 19-Dec-17 18:11
Re: Oh please! 196 Archaic 17-Dec-17 23:16
Re: Fighter aircraft 196 Archaic 17-Dec-17 22:46
Some context of what we're seeing in video 284 Archaic 17-Dec-17 22:36
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 279 Aine 17-Dec-17 22:48
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 202 Archaic 17-Dec-17 22:54
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 173 Aine 17-Dec-17 22:56
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 172 Aine 17-Dec-17 23:14
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 184 Archaic 17-Dec-17 23:54
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 216 Loki74 18-Dec-17 00:35
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 243 Loki74 18-Dec-17 00:47
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 170 Archaic 18-Dec-17 01:04
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 171 Loki74 18-Dec-17 01:22
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 175 Archaic 18-Dec-17 01:46
Here, Loki - Lazar's Credibility 198 Archaic 18-Dec-17 02:35
Re: Here, Loki - Lazar's Credibility 202 Loki74 18-Dec-17 11:01
Re: Here, Loki - Lazar's Credibility 107 altered-state 28-Mar-18 05:29
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 180 Loki74 18-Dec-17 00:22
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 245 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 03:44
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 166 jeffreyw 18-Dec-17 03:47
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 175 Archaic 18-Dec-17 04:07
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 170 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:33
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 206 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:50
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 175 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 05:10
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 218 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:49
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 224 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 17:41
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 203 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:10
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 215 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:25
1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 223 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:35
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 190 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:38
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 147 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:43
2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 168 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:41
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 156 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:50
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 159 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:58
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 147 Aine 18-Dec-17 19:03
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 154 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 19:06
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 147 Aine 18-Dec-17 19:08
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 149 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 19:09
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 128 altered-state 28-Mar-18 05:43
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 108 Aine 28-Mar-18 13:02
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 118 altered-state 28-Mar-18 15:26
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 106 Aine 29-Mar-18 00:40
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 123 altered-state 29-Mar-18 01:32
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 220 Susan Doris 18-Dec-17 06:41
just got and started reading Leslie Kean's book on my kindle 174 greengirl5 18-Dec-17 07:02
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 224 Archaic 18-Dec-17 07:20
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 180 Susan Doris 18-Dec-17 10:09
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 179 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:56
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 236 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 17:34
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 151 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:46
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 157 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:12
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 152 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:14
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 153 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:22
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 147 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:39
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 192 Anomalies 01-Mar-18 20:11
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 101 Aine 28-Mar-18 00:08
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 108 altered-state 28-Mar-18 05:46
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 129 Anomalies 01-Mar-18 20:03
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 217 Vanya 18-Dec-17 07:36
Already posted 210 drrayeye 18-Dec-17 08:50
Re: Already posted 207 Vanya 18-Dec-17 10:09
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 228 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:54
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 181 Vanya 19-Dec-17 07:03
This today 230 Poster Boy 20-Dec-17 00:58
Re: This today 238 Aine 20-Dec-17 01:03
Re: This today 174 Aine 20-Dec-17 18:40
High hopes! 160 greengirl5 20-Dec-17 22:11
Re: High hopes! 161 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:11
Zimbabwae UFO case 187 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:26
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 166 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:31
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 174 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:41
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 191 Aine 21-Dec-17 02:02
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 151 Archaic 21-Dec-17 02:13
Could this be it? 170 greengirl5 21-Dec-17 03:18
Re: Could this be it? 145 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:18
And the one I could/did find... 170 Racho 21-Dec-17 05:34
Re: This today 186 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:23
Re: This today 170 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:25
Re: This today 135 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:23
Re: This today 163 Nolondil 21-Dec-17 01:27
Re: This today 160 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:31
Re: This today 150 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:39
Re: This today 167 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:52
Re: This today 149 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:57
Re: This today 145 Archaic 21-Dec-17 02:00
very limited consideration imv 153 Racho 21-Dec-17 01:34
Re: very limited consideration imv 166 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:37
try to envision 157 Racho 21-Dec-17 01:47
Re: try to envision 157 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:50
Re: try to envision 156 Nolondil 21-Dec-17 02:23
Re: try to envision 149 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:24
Re: try to envision 143 Racho 21-Dec-17 06:19
Re: try to envision 149 Aine 21-Dec-17 14:53
Re: try to envision 210 Aine 21-Dec-17 17:47
Re: This today 151 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:34
Other angles 276 Reagent 21-Dec-17 07:50
Re: Other angles 173 Aine 21-Dec-17 15:09
Other angles; in progress and deployed 163 Reagent 21-Dec-17 19:00
Re: Other angles; in progress and deployed 164 Aine 21-Dec-17 21:31
In progress and deployed 142 Reagent 22-Dec-17 00:30
Re: In progress and deployed 143 Aine 22-Dec-17 00:59
Re: This today 162 Poster Boy 22-Dec-17 16:43
Re: This today 157 Aine 22-Dec-17 20:39
Re: This today 158 Poster Boy 22-Dec-17 21:58
Re: This today 139 Aine 22-Dec-17 23:37
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 179 WhoWeird 20-Dec-17 21:32
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 170 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:54
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 170 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 02:18
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 156 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:27
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 139 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 12:44
Are all these kids corrupted? 146 Racho 21-Dec-17 06:27
Re: Are all these kids corrupted? 144 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 12:51
Re: Are all these kids corrupted? 143 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 13:21
Re: Are all these kids corrupted? 152 Aine 21-Dec-17 14:59
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 156 Aine 21-Dec-17 14:51
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 175 Archaic 21-Dec-17 02:22
CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 187 Archaic 21-Dec-17 20:44
Re: CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 192 Aine 21-Dec-17 21:29
Re: CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 178 drrayeye 21-Dec-17 23:53
Re: CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 182 Aine 22-Dec-17 02:24
disbelievers? 184 drrayeye 22-Dec-17 18:11
Re: disbelievers? 173 Aine 22-Dec-17 20:33
Re: disbelievers? 201 drrayeye 23-Dec-17 02:48
Re: disbelievers? 162 Aine 23-Dec-17 13:47
You don't see the difference? 176 drrayeye 23-Dec-17 18:41
Re: You don't see the difference? 180 Eddie Larry 23-Dec-17 19:32
Re: You don't see the difference? 229 Poster Boy 23-Dec-17 20:04
Re: You don't see the difference? 220 DUNE 02-Jan-18 16:59
Re: You don't see the difference? 281 Aine 02-Jan-18 18:49


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