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No worries!
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> Could you please expand on your position on this?
> A lot of people around here don't understand why
> I'm so open minded on this, but I'd love to hear
> your thoughts.
>
> . . . Given that this is a public forum and
> subject to snoops using web crawlers, web
> sniffers, and web spiders without notice or
> privacy breach concerns I will digress to the
> short answer for now.
>
> I can say with a lot of in-between-the-lines
> fluffy prose I’m retired military and
> jack-of-several trades. . . . Not very informative
> for juicy prime time news I know. But one could
> appear before Congress under oath to testify on
> certain military actions (give my story as witness
> while active duty) where some immunity under law
> might apply. I’m not under a specific gage
> order. Not sworn to secrecy, though, does not
> negate my current obligations and responsibilities
> as a citizen to uphold the rule of law.
>
> I’ve known about some of this stuff – the
> others – flying craft - since I was a child in
> the 1950’s. . . Big deal, I say to those secret
> keepers of government and businesses, get over it
> already . . .The stigma in support of foul agendas
> is revolting even embarrassing as a presumed
> intelligent species as some scholars espouse
> despite their ignorance in these matters. The
> presence or existence of the others is not
> contingent on local terrestrial policies and
> bigotries or an approval rating in the first
> place. That’s my impression from them, anyway,
> for what it is.
>
> It wasn’t until I was active duty military that
> I learned of official regulations, instructions,
> and laws forbidding a citizen (or active duty
> military member) to initiate contact with the
> others on behalf of the Nation’s citizenry as a
> human representative – one of the rules 1211.***
> or something similar as it was the civilian
> version. The military was J***146 or something
> similar (it’s been awhile). . .Both have
> probably changed for security reasons and
> compartmentalization strategies to keep secrets
> from those without current need-to-know
> requirements. I can say this without
> repercussions.
>
> Did you know, it was the operatives in the Army
> and then elected government who started this
> charade and cover up. . . NOT the US Air Force . .
> . they got stuck with the charade while
> establishing a new founded arm of the US military
> months later in 1947 after the big noise and
> Kenneth Arnold aerial flap in the northwest.
> Technically true, too, probably the only non lie
> in this whole known spectacle. Heh Heh
>
> At any rate, my position: We are NOT alone . . .
> Thank you for your interest just the same. It’s
> not misplaced. Continue to scrutinize your
> sources, though. It’s a good habit if not a safe
> one to adopt.
>
> Richard

Thank you for your answer. I've no doubt that a lot of military and former military, as well as civilian pilots, know perfectly well that something is going on. You could say the same about the astronauts, cosmonauts, etc.

My personal view is that the most likely explanation is that UFOs are in fact ET. The trouble is sorting out the wheat from the chaff, the crazy from the not crazy.

1984 was a warning, not a how-to guide.

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The Pentagon's UFO Program 2486 Aine 17-Dec-17 19:48
Mod Note > Topic Moved 179 Dr. Troglodyte 17-Dec-17 20:10
Fighter aircraft 288 Reagent 17-Dec-17 21:13
Re: Fighter aircraft 251 Aine 17-Dec-17 21:24
Oh please! 224 Reagent 17-Dec-17 22:40
Re: Oh please! 184 Aine 17-Dec-17 22:55
Apologies! 179 Reagent 17-Dec-17 23:14
Re: Apologies! 162 Aine 17-Dec-17 23:17
No Worries 173 Reagent 18-Dec-17 03:43
Re: No Worries 169 Archaic 18-Dec-17 03:54
Familiar acronym 145 Reagent 19-Dec-17 20:56
Re: No Worries 145 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:31
Fun, too 161 Reagent 18-Dec-17 18:51
Re: Fun, too 142 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:59
Language conundrum 147 Reagent 19-Dec-17 04:58
Re: Fun, too 80 altered-state 28-Mar-18 04:56
Not so safe secrecy 98 Reagent 29-Mar-18 09:17
Re: Not so safe secrecy 182 altered-state 29-Mar-18 15:01
We are not alone: Alien Presence 211 Sirhope 19-Dec-17 07:13
We are not alone; neither are they 142 Reagent 19-Dec-17 08:47
Re: We are not alone; neither are they 140 Sirhope 19-Dec-17 09:34
We are not alone; neither are they 149 Reagent 19-Dec-17 12:03
Title 14, Section 1211 of U.S. Federal Code: 142 Reagent 19-Dec-17 18:11
Re: Oh please! 159 Archaic 17-Dec-17 23:16
Re: Fighter aircraft 153 Archaic 17-Dec-17 22:46
Some context of what we're seeing in video 241 Archaic 17-Dec-17 22:36
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 232 Aine 17-Dec-17 22:48
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 151 Archaic 17-Dec-17 22:54
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 138 Aine 17-Dec-17 22:56
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 136 Aine 17-Dec-17 23:14
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 148 Archaic 17-Dec-17 23:54
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 171 Loki74 18-Dec-17 00:35
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 204 Loki74 18-Dec-17 00:47
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 134 Archaic 18-Dec-17 01:04
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 133 Loki74 18-Dec-17 01:22
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 137 Archaic 18-Dec-17 01:46
Here, Loki - Lazar's Credibility 163 Archaic 18-Dec-17 02:35
Re: Here, Loki - Lazar's Credibility 167 Loki74 18-Dec-17 11:01
Re: Here, Loki - Lazar's Credibility 70 altered-state 28-Mar-18 05:29
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 143 Loki74 18-Dec-17 00:22
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 193 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 03:44
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 124 jeffreyw 18-Dec-17 03:47
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 139 Archaic 18-Dec-17 04:07
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 132 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:33
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 159 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:50
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 139 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 05:10
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 174 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:49
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 178 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 17:41
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 158 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:10
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 170 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:25
1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 175 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:35
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 145 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:38
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 108 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:43
2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 126 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:41
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 118 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:50
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 122 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:58
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 112 Aine 18-Dec-17 19:03
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 118 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 19:06
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 111 Aine 18-Dec-17 19:08
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 114 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 19:09
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 82 altered-state 28-Mar-18 05:43
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 71 Aine 28-Mar-18 13:02
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 82 altered-state 28-Mar-18 15:26
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 70 Aine 29-Mar-18 00:40
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 85 altered-state 29-Mar-18 01:32
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 177 Susan Doris 18-Dec-17 06:41
just got and started reading Leslie Kean's book on my kindle 138 greengirl5 18-Dec-17 07:02
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 177 Archaic 18-Dec-17 07:20
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 144 Susan Doris 18-Dec-17 10:09
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 142 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:56
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 187 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 17:34
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 118 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:46
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 118 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:12
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 116 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:14
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 117 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:22
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 110 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:39
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 144 Anomalies 01-Mar-18 20:11
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 66 Aine 28-Mar-18 00:08
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 72 altered-state 28-Mar-18 05:46
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 84 Anomalies 01-Mar-18 20:03
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 175 Vanya 18-Dec-17 07:36
Already posted 169 drrayeye 18-Dec-17 08:50
Re: Already posted 164 Vanya 18-Dec-17 10:09
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 180 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:54
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 145 Vanya 19-Dec-17 07:03
This today 183 Poster Boy 20-Dec-17 00:58
Re: This today 194 Aine 20-Dec-17 01:03
Re: This today 139 Aine 20-Dec-17 18:40
High hopes! 125 greengirl5 20-Dec-17 22:11
Re: High hopes! 124 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:11
Zimbabwae UFO case 140 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:26
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 128 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:31
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 132 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:41
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 141 Aine 21-Dec-17 02:02
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 115 Archaic 21-Dec-17 02:13
Could this be it? 129 greengirl5 21-Dec-17 03:18
Re: Could this be it? 108 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:18
And the one I could/did find... 127 Racho 21-Dec-17 05:34
Re: This today 139 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:23
Re: This today 128 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:25
Re: This today 100 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:23
Re: This today 126 Nolondil 21-Dec-17 01:27
Re: This today 113 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:31
Re: This today 114 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:39
Re: This today 121 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:52
Re: This today 112 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:57
Re: This today 109 Archaic 21-Dec-17 02:00
very limited consideration imv 115 Racho 21-Dec-17 01:34
Re: very limited consideration imv 121 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:37
try to envision 120 Racho 21-Dec-17 01:47
Re: try to envision 121 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:50
Re: try to envision 119 Nolondil 21-Dec-17 02:23
Re: try to envision 111 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:24
Re: try to envision 107 Racho 21-Dec-17 06:19
Re: try to envision 114 Aine 21-Dec-17 14:53
Re: try to envision 164 Aine 21-Dec-17 17:47
Re: This today 113 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:34
Other angles 226 Reagent 21-Dec-17 07:50
Re: Other angles 136 Aine 21-Dec-17 15:09
Other angles; in progress and deployed 126 Reagent 21-Dec-17 19:00
Re: Other angles; in progress and deployed 129 Aine 21-Dec-17 21:31
In progress and deployed 109 Reagent 22-Dec-17 00:30
Re: In progress and deployed 108 Aine 22-Dec-17 00:59
Re: This today 121 Poster Boy 22-Dec-17 16:43
Re: This today 115 Aine 22-Dec-17 20:39
Re: This today 116 Poster Boy 22-Dec-17 21:58
Re: This today 103 Aine 22-Dec-17 23:37
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 141 WhoWeird 20-Dec-17 21:32
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 130 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:54
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 133 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 02:18
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 119 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:27
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 103 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 12:44
Are all these kids corrupted? 110 Racho 21-Dec-17 06:27
Re: Are all these kids corrupted? 109 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 12:51
Re: Are all these kids corrupted? 107 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 13:21
Re: Are all these kids corrupted? 115 Aine 21-Dec-17 14:59
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 116 Aine 21-Dec-17 14:51
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 131 Archaic 21-Dec-17 02:22
CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 137 Archaic 21-Dec-17 20:44
Re: CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 141 Aine 21-Dec-17 21:29
Re: CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 134 drrayeye 21-Dec-17 23:53
Re: CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 140 Aine 22-Dec-17 02:24
disbelievers? 147 drrayeye 22-Dec-17 18:11
Re: disbelievers? 138 Aine 22-Dec-17 20:33
Re: disbelievers? 159 drrayeye 23-Dec-17 02:48
Re: disbelievers? 126 Aine 23-Dec-17 13:47
You don't see the difference? 138 drrayeye 23-Dec-17 18:41
Re: You don't see the difference? 136 Eddie Larry 23-Dec-17 19:32
Re: You don't see the difference? 186 Poster Boy 23-Dec-17 20:04
Re: You don't see the difference? 178 DUNE 02-Jan-18 16:59
Re: You don't see the difference? 241 Aine 02-Jan-18 18:49


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