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No worries!
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> Could you please expand on your position on this?
> A lot of people around here don't understand why
> I'm so open minded on this, but I'd love to hear
> your thoughts.
>
> . . . Given that this is a public forum and
> subject to snoops using web crawlers, web
> sniffers, and web spiders without notice or
> privacy breach concerns I will digress to the
> short answer for now.
>
> I can say with a lot of in-between-the-lines
> fluffy prose I’m retired military and
> jack-of-several trades. . . . Not very informative
> for juicy prime time news I know. But one could
> appear before Congress under oath to testify on
> certain military actions (give my story as witness
> while active duty) where some immunity under law
> might apply. I’m not under a specific gage
> order. Not sworn to secrecy, though, does not
> negate my current obligations and responsibilities
> as a citizen to uphold the rule of law.
>
> I’ve known about some of this stuff – the
> others – flying craft - since I was a child in
> the 1950’s. . . Big deal, I say to those secret
> keepers of government and businesses, get over it
> already . . .The stigma in support of foul agendas
> is revolting even embarrassing as a presumed
> intelligent species as some scholars espouse
> despite their ignorance in these matters. The
> presence or existence of the others is not
> contingent on local terrestrial policies and
> bigotries or an approval rating in the first
> place. That’s my impression from them, anyway,
> for what it is.
>
> It wasn’t until I was active duty military that
> I learned of official regulations, instructions,
> and laws forbidding a citizen (or active duty
> military member) to initiate contact with the
> others on behalf of the Nation’s citizenry as a
> human representative – one of the rules 1211.***
> or something similar as it was the civilian
> version. The military was J***146 or something
> similar (it’s been awhile). . .Both have
> probably changed for security reasons and
> compartmentalization strategies to keep secrets
> from those without current need-to-know
> requirements. I can say this without
> repercussions.
>
> Did you know, it was the operatives in the Army
> and then elected government who started this
> charade and cover up. . . NOT the US Air Force . .
> . they got stuck with the charade while
> establishing a new founded arm of the US military
> months later in 1947 after the big noise and
> Kenneth Arnold aerial flap in the northwest.
> Technically true, too, probably the only non lie
> in this whole known spectacle. Heh Heh
>
> At any rate, my position: We are NOT alone . . .
> Thank you for your interest just the same. It’s
> not misplaced. Continue to scrutinize your
> sources, though. It’s a good habit if not a safe
> one to adopt.
>
> Richard

Thank you for your answer. I've no doubt that a lot of military and former military, as well as civilian pilots, know perfectly well that something is going on. You could say the same about the astronauts, cosmonauts, etc.

My personal view is that the most likely explanation is that UFOs are in fact ET. The trouble is sorting out the wheat from the chaff, the crazy from the not crazy.

1984 was a warning, not a how-to guide.

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The Pentagon's UFO Program 2180 Aine 17-Dec-17 19:48
Mod Note > Topic Moved 129 Dr. Troglodyte 17-Dec-17 20:10
Fighter aircraft 225 Reagent 17-Dec-17 21:13
Re: Fighter aircraft 193 Aine 17-Dec-17 21:24
Oh please! 174 Reagent 17-Dec-17 22:40
Re: Oh please! 138 Aine 17-Dec-17 22:55
Apologies! 130 Reagent 17-Dec-17 23:14
Re: Apologies! 120 Aine 17-Dec-17 23:17
No Worries 129 Reagent 18-Dec-17 03:43
Re: No Worries 121 Archaic 18-Dec-17 03:54
Familiar acronym 100 Reagent 19-Dec-17 20:56
Re: No Worries 104 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:31
Fun, too 110 Reagent 18-Dec-17 18:51
Re: Fun, too 102 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:59
Language conundrum 102 Reagent 19-Dec-17 04:58
Re: Fun, too 39 altered-state 28-Mar-18 04:56
Not so safe secrecy 45 Reagent 29-Mar-18 09:17
Re: Not so safe secrecy 96 altered-state 29-Mar-18 15:01
We are not alone: Alien Presence 144 Sirhope 19-Dec-17 07:13
We are not alone; neither are they 102 Reagent 19-Dec-17 08:47
Re: We are not alone; neither are they 101 Sirhope 19-Dec-17 09:34
We are not alone; neither are they 113 Reagent 19-Dec-17 12:03
Title 14, Section 1211 of U.S. Federal Code: 93 Reagent 19-Dec-17 18:11
Re: Oh please! 120 Archaic 17-Dec-17 23:16
Re: Fighter aircraft 110 Archaic 17-Dec-17 22:46
Some context of what we're seeing in video 186 Archaic 17-Dec-17 22:36
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 162 Aine 17-Dec-17 22:48
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 107 Archaic 17-Dec-17 22:54
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 99 Aine 17-Dec-17 22:56
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 100 Aine 17-Dec-17 23:14
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 111 Archaic 17-Dec-17 23:54
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 125 Loki74 18-Dec-17 00:35
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 146 Loki74 18-Dec-17 00:47
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 97 Archaic 18-Dec-17 01:04
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 91 Loki74 18-Dec-17 01:22
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 100 Archaic 18-Dec-17 01:46
Here, Loki - Lazar's Credibility 123 Archaic 18-Dec-17 02:35
Re: Here, Loki - Lazar's Credibility 128 Loki74 18-Dec-17 11:01
Re: Here, Loki - Lazar's Credibility 34 altered-state 28-Mar-18 05:29
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 104 Loki74 18-Dec-17 00:22
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 138 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 03:44
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 86 jeffreyw 18-Dec-17 03:47
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 101 Archaic 18-Dec-17 04:07
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 94 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:33
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 108 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:50
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 102 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 05:10
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 123 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:49
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 119 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 17:41
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 113 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:10
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 111 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:25
1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 121 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:35
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 94 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:38
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 74 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:43
2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 80 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:41
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 81 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:50
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 85 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:58
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 77 Aine 18-Dec-17 19:03
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 82 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 19:06
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 75 Aine 18-Dec-17 19:08
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 78 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 19:09
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 39 altered-state 28-Mar-18 05:43
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 37 Aine 28-Mar-18 13:02
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 43 altered-state 28-Mar-18 15:26
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 33 Aine 29-Mar-18 00:40
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 47 altered-state 29-Mar-18 01:32
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 125 Susan Doris 18-Dec-17 06:41
just got and started reading Leslie Kean's book on my kindle 100 greengirl5 18-Dec-17 07:02
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 119 Archaic 18-Dec-17 07:20
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 105 Susan Doris 18-Dec-17 10:09
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 106 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:56
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 124 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 17:34
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 83 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:46
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 79 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:12
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 77 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:14
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 78 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:22
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 73 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:39
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 94 Anomalies 01-Mar-18 20:11
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 32 Aine 28-Mar-18 00:08
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 34 altered-state 28-Mar-18 05:46
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 44 Anomalies 01-Mar-18 20:03
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 127 Vanya 18-Dec-17 07:36
Already posted 117 drrayeye 18-Dec-17 08:50
Re: Already posted 114 Vanya 18-Dec-17 10:09
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 131 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:54
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 107 Vanya 19-Dec-17 07:03
This today 133 Poster Boy 20-Dec-17 00:58
Re: This today 142 Aine 20-Dec-17 01:03
Re: This today 102 Aine 20-Dec-17 18:40
High hopes! 87 greengirl5 20-Dec-17 22:11
Re: High hopes! 85 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:11
Zimbabwae UFO case 92 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:26
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 91 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:31
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 87 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:41
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 80 Aine 21-Dec-17 02:02
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 77 Archaic 21-Dec-17 02:13
Could this be it? 81 greengirl5 21-Dec-17 03:18
Re: Could this be it? 70 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:18
And the one I could/did find... 75 Racho 21-Dec-17 05:34
Re: This today 91 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:23
Re: This today 80 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:25
Re: This today 63 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:23
Re: This today 85 Nolondil 21-Dec-17 01:27
Re: This today 74 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:31
Re: This today 77 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:39
Re: This today 73 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:52
Re: This today 75 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:57
Re: This today 72 Archaic 21-Dec-17 02:00
very limited consideration imv 78 Racho 21-Dec-17 01:34
Re: very limited consideration imv 79 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:37
try to envision 82 Racho 21-Dec-17 01:47
Re: try to envision 84 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:50
Re: try to envision 85 Nolondil 21-Dec-17 02:23
Re: try to envision 76 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:24
Re: try to envision 69 Racho 21-Dec-17 06:19
Re: try to envision 78 Aine 21-Dec-17 14:53
Re: try to envision 101 Aine 21-Dec-17 17:47
Re: This today 75 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:34
Other angles 160 Reagent 21-Dec-17 07:50
Re: Other angles 98 Aine 21-Dec-17 15:09
Other angles; in progress and deployed 89 Reagent 21-Dec-17 19:00
Re: Other angles; in progress and deployed 91 Aine 21-Dec-17 21:31
In progress and deployed 78 Reagent 22-Dec-17 00:30
Re: In progress and deployed 70 Aine 22-Dec-17 00:59
Re: This today 74 Poster Boy 22-Dec-17 16:43
Re: This today 69 Aine 22-Dec-17 20:39
Re: This today 72 Poster Boy 22-Dec-17 21:58
Re: This today 68 Aine 22-Dec-17 23:37
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 93 WhoWeird 20-Dec-17 21:32
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 86 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:54
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 97 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 02:18
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 84 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:27
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 67 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 12:44
Are all these kids corrupted? 73 Racho 21-Dec-17 06:27
Re: Are all these kids corrupted? 72 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 12:51
Re: Are all these kids corrupted? 70 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 13:21
Re: Are all these kids corrupted? 78 Aine 21-Dec-17 14:59
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 77 Aine 21-Dec-17 14:51
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 88 Archaic 21-Dec-17 02:22
CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 90 Archaic 21-Dec-17 20:44
Re: CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 95 Aine 21-Dec-17 21:29
Re: CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 87 drrayeye 21-Dec-17 23:53
Re: CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 100 Aine 22-Dec-17 02:24
disbelievers? 103 drrayeye 22-Dec-17 18:11
Re: disbelievers? 97 Aine 22-Dec-17 20:33
Re: disbelievers? 112 drrayeye 23-Dec-17 02:48
Re: disbelievers? 86 Aine 23-Dec-17 13:47
You don't see the difference? 101 drrayeye 23-Dec-17 18:41
Re: You don't see the difference? 87 Eddie Larry 23-Dec-17 19:32
Re: You don't see the difference? 134 Poster Boy 23-Dec-17 20:04
Re: You don't see the difference? 123 DUNE 02-Jan-18 16:59
Re: You don't see the difference? 191 Aine 02-Jan-18 18:49


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