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No worries!
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> Could you please expand on your position on this?
> A lot of people around here don't understand why
> I'm so open minded on this, but I'd love to hear
> your thoughts.
>
> . . . Given that this is a public forum and
> subject to snoops using web crawlers, web
> sniffers, and web spiders without notice or
> privacy breach concerns I will digress to the
> short answer for now.
>
> I can say with a lot of in-between-the-lines
> fluffy prose I’m retired military and
> jack-of-several trades. . . . Not very informative
> for juicy prime time news I know. But one could
> appear before Congress under oath to testify on
> certain military actions (give my story as witness
> while active duty) where some immunity under law
> might apply. I’m not under a specific gage
> order. Not sworn to secrecy, though, does not
> negate my current obligations and responsibilities
> as a citizen to uphold the rule of law.
>
> I’ve known about some of this stuff – the
> others – flying craft - since I was a child in
> the 1950’s. . . Big deal, I say to those secret
> keepers of government and businesses, get over it
> already . . .The stigma in support of foul agendas
> is revolting even embarrassing as a presumed
> intelligent species as some scholars espouse
> despite their ignorance in these matters. The
> presence or existence of the others is not
> contingent on local terrestrial policies and
> bigotries or an approval rating in the first
> place. That’s my impression from them, anyway,
> for what it is.
>
> It wasn’t until I was active duty military that
> I learned of official regulations, instructions,
> and laws forbidding a citizen (or active duty
> military member) to initiate contact with the
> others on behalf of the Nation’s citizenry as a
> human representative – one of the rules 1211.***
> or something similar as it was the civilian
> version. The military was J***146 or something
> similar (it’s been awhile). . .Both have
> probably changed for security reasons and
> compartmentalization strategies to keep secrets
> from those without current need-to-know
> requirements. I can say this without
> repercussions.
>
> Did you know, it was the operatives in the Army
> and then elected government who started this
> charade and cover up. . . NOT the US Air Force . .
> . they got stuck with the charade while
> establishing a new founded arm of the US military
> months later in 1947 after the big noise and
> Kenneth Arnold aerial flap in the northwest.
> Technically true, too, probably the only non lie
> in this whole known spectacle. Heh Heh
>
> At any rate, my position: We are NOT alone . . .
> Thank you for your interest just the same. It’s
> not misplaced. Continue to scrutinize your
> sources, though. It’s a good habit if not a safe
> one to adopt.
>
> Richard

Thank you for your answer. I've no doubt that a lot of military and former military, as well as civilian pilots, know perfectly well that something is going on. You could say the same about the astronauts, cosmonauts, etc.

My personal view is that the most likely explanation is that UFOs are in fact ET. The trouble is sorting out the wheat from the chaff, the crazy from the not crazy.

1984 was a warning, not a how-to guide.

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The Pentagon's UFO Program 3187 Aine 17-Dec-17 19:48
Mod Note > Topic Moved 350 Dr. Troglodyte 17-Dec-17 20:10
Fighter aircraft 464 Reagent 17-Dec-17 21:13
Re: Fighter aircraft 428 Aine 17-Dec-17 21:24
Oh please! 383 Reagent 17-Dec-17 22:40
Re: Oh please! 342 Aine 17-Dec-17 22:55
Apologies! 339 Reagent 17-Dec-17 23:14
Re: Apologies! 302 Aine 17-Dec-17 23:17
No Worries 310 Reagent 18-Dec-17 03:43
Re: No Worries 319 Archaic 18-Dec-17 03:54
Familiar acronym 284 Reagent 19-Dec-17 20:56
Re: No Worries 279 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:31
Fun, too 317 Reagent 18-Dec-17 18:51
Re: Fun, too 272 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:59
Language conundrum 285 Reagent 19-Dec-17 04:58
Re: Fun, too 213 altered-state 28-Mar-18 04:56
Not so safe secrecy 249 Reagent 29-Mar-18 09:17
Re: Not so safe secrecy 378 altered-state 29-Mar-18 15:01
We are not alone: Alien Presence 389 Sirhope 19-Dec-17 07:13
We are not alone; neither are they 278 Reagent 19-Dec-17 08:47
Re: We are not alone; neither are they 278 Sirhope 19-Dec-17 09:34
We are not alone; neither are they 286 Reagent 19-Dec-17 12:03
Title 14, Section 1211 of U.S. Federal Code: 293 Reagent 19-Dec-17 18:11
Re: Oh please! 287 Archaic 17-Dec-17 23:16
Re: Fighter aircraft 294 Archaic 17-Dec-17 22:46
Some context of what we're seeing in video 395 Archaic 17-Dec-17 22:36
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 387 Aine 17-Dec-17 22:48
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 309 Archaic 17-Dec-17 22:54
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 267 Aine 17-Dec-17 22:56
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 267 Aine 17-Dec-17 23:14
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 273 Archaic 17-Dec-17 23:54
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 323 Loki74 18-Dec-17 00:35
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 344 Loki74 18-Dec-17 00:47
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 260 Archaic 18-Dec-17 01:04
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 259 Loki74 18-Dec-17 01:22
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 265 Archaic 18-Dec-17 01:46
Here, Loki - Lazar's Credibility 290 Archaic 18-Dec-17 02:35
Re: Here, Loki - Lazar's Credibility 292 Loki74 18-Dec-17 11:01
Re: Here, Loki - Lazar's Credibility 199 altered-state 28-Mar-18 05:29
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 271 Loki74 18-Dec-17 00:22
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 348 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 03:44
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 259 jeffreyw 18-Dec-17 03:47
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 271 Archaic 18-Dec-17 04:07
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 261 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:33
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 311 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:50
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 265 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 05:10
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 325 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:49
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 329 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 17:41
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 307 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:10
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 314 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:25
1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 319 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:35
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 293 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:38
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 232 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:43
2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 267 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:41
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 245 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:50
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 245 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:58
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 233 Aine 18-Dec-17 19:03
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 244 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 19:06
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 235 Aine 18-Dec-17 19:08
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 237 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 19:09
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 237 altered-state 28-Mar-18 05:43
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 196 Aine 28-Mar-18 13:02
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 211 altered-state 28-Mar-18 15:26
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 195 Aine 29-Mar-18 00:40
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 218 altered-state 29-Mar-18 01:32
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 318 Susan Doris 18-Dec-17 06:41
just got and started reading Leslie Kean's book on my kindle 261 greengirl5 18-Dec-17 07:02
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 320 Archaic 18-Dec-17 07:20
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 269 Susan Doris 18-Dec-17 10:09
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 265 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:56
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 330 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 17:34
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 235 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:46
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 248 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:12
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 237 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:14
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 242 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:22
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 238 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:39
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 300 Anomalies 01-Mar-18 20:11
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 185 Aine 28-Mar-18 00:08
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 196 altered-state 28-Mar-18 05:46
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 227 Anomalies 01-Mar-18 20:03
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 326 Vanya 18-Dec-17 07:36
Already posted 313 drrayeye 18-Dec-17 08:50
Re: Already posted 311 Vanya 18-Dec-17 10:09
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 338 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:54
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 269 Vanya 19-Dec-17 07:03
This today 325 Poster Boy 20-Dec-17 00:58
Re: This today 341 Aine 20-Dec-17 01:03
Re: This today 261 Aine 20-Dec-17 18:40
High hopes! 246 greengirl5 20-Dec-17 22:11
Re: High hopes! 247 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:11
Zimbabwae UFO case 292 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:26
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 259 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:31
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 274 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:41
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 286 Aine 21-Dec-17 02:02
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 237 Archaic 21-Dec-17 02:13
Could this be it? 264 greengirl5 21-Dec-17 03:18
Re: Could this be it? 231 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:18
And the one I could/did find... 276 Racho 21-Dec-17 05:34
Re: This today 288 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:23
Re: This today 263 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:25
Re: This today 220 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:23
Re: This today 250 Nolondil 21-Dec-17 01:27
Re: This today 259 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:31
Re: This today 236 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:39
Re: This today 271 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:52
Re: This today 237 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:57
Re: This today 230 Archaic 21-Dec-17 02:00
very limited consideration imv 240 Racho 21-Dec-17 01:34
Re: very limited consideration imv 276 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:37
try to envision 245 Racho 21-Dec-17 01:47
Re: try to envision 245 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:50
Re: try to envision 236 Nolondil 21-Dec-17 02:23
Re: try to envision 238 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:24
Re: try to envision 235 Racho 21-Dec-17 06:19
Re: try to envision 239 Aine 21-Dec-17 14:53
Re: try to envision 307 Aine 21-Dec-17 17:47
Re: This today 239 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:34
Other angles 375 Reagent 21-Dec-17 07:50
Re: Other angles 261 Aine 21-Dec-17 15:09
Other angles; in progress and deployed 252 Reagent 21-Dec-17 19:00
Re: Other angles; in progress and deployed 252 Aine 21-Dec-17 21:31
In progress and deployed 224 Reagent 22-Dec-17 00:30
Re: In progress and deployed 231 Aine 22-Dec-17 00:59
Re: This today 257 Poster Boy 22-Dec-17 16:43
Re: This today 255 Aine 22-Dec-17 20:39
Re: This today 256 Poster Boy 22-Dec-17 21:58
Re: This today 224 Aine 22-Dec-17 23:37
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 272 WhoWeird 20-Dec-17 21:32
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 266 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:54
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 261 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 02:18
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 242 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:27
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 226 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 12:44
Are all these kids corrupted? 233 Racho 21-Dec-17 06:27
Re: Are all these kids corrupted? 231 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 12:51
Re: Are all these kids corrupted? 230 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 13:21
Re: Are all these kids corrupted? 243 Aine 21-Dec-17 14:59
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 248 Aine 21-Dec-17 14:51
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 270 Archaic 21-Dec-17 02:22
CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 295 Archaic 21-Dec-17 20:44
Re: CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 301 Aine 21-Dec-17 21:29
Re: CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 284 drrayeye 21-Dec-17 23:53
Re: CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 284 Aine 22-Dec-17 02:24
disbelievers? 275 drrayeye 22-Dec-17 18:11
Re: disbelievers? 273 Aine 22-Dec-17 20:33
Re: disbelievers? 299 drrayeye 23-Dec-17 02:48
Re: disbelievers? 252 Aine 23-Dec-17 13:47
You don't see the difference? 266 drrayeye 23-Dec-17 18:41
Re: You don't see the difference? 273 Eddie Larry 23-Dec-17 19:32
Re: You don't see the difference? 328 Poster Boy 23-Dec-17 20:04
Re: You don't see the difference? 322 DUNE 02-Jan-18 16:59
Re: You don't see the difference? 384 Aine 02-Jan-18 18:49
US Navy Finally Opening Up About Odd Aerial Phenomena 42 Race Jackson 27-May-19 20:00
Mod Note > Duplicate Topic Merged 25 Dr. Troglodyte 27-May-19 22:02
HC USA Airing – Time Sensitive 28 Dr. Troglodyte 31-May-19 15:56
Re: HC USA Airing – Time Sensitive 28 Race Jackson 31-May-19 18:27
US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 46 Race Jackson 02-Jun-19 13:18
Re: US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 28 WhoWeird 02-Jun-19 13:25
Re: US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 29 Race Jackson 02-Jun-19 13:56
Re: US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 29 WhoWeird 02-Jun-19 14:01
Re: US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 35 Lee McGiffen 03-Jun-19 02:16
Re: US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 29 Race Jackson 03-Jun-19 18:44
Mod Note > Duplicate Topic Merged 18 Dr. Troglodyte 02-Jun-19 15:20
Mod Warning > Race Jackson 35 Dr. Troglodyte 02-Jun-19 15:22
Tucker Carlson May 31st 2019 26 Race Jackson 07-Jun-19 00:49


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