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No worries!
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> Could you please expand on your position on this?
> A lot of people around here don't understand why
> I'm so open minded on this, but I'd love to hear
> your thoughts.
>
> . . . Given that this is a public forum and
> subject to snoops using web crawlers, web
> sniffers, and web spiders without notice or
> privacy breach concerns I will digress to the
> short answer for now.
>
> I can say with a lot of in-between-the-lines
> fluffy prose I’m retired military and
> jack-of-several trades. . . . Not very informative
> for juicy prime time news I know. But one could
> appear before Congress under oath to testify on
> certain military actions (give my story as witness
> while active duty) where some immunity under law
> might apply. I’m not under a specific gage
> order. Not sworn to secrecy, though, does not
> negate my current obligations and responsibilities
> as a citizen to uphold the rule of law.
>
> I’ve known about some of this stuff – the
> others – flying craft - since I was a child in
> the 1950’s. . . Big deal, I say to those secret
> keepers of government and businesses, get over it
> already . . .The stigma in support of foul agendas
> is revolting even embarrassing as a presumed
> intelligent species as some scholars espouse
> despite their ignorance in these matters. The
> presence or existence of the others is not
> contingent on local terrestrial policies and
> bigotries or an approval rating in the first
> place. That’s my impression from them, anyway,
> for what it is.
>
> It wasn’t until I was active duty military that
> I learned of official regulations, instructions,
> and laws forbidding a citizen (or active duty
> military member) to initiate contact with the
> others on behalf of the Nation’s citizenry as a
> human representative – one of the rules 1211.***
> or something similar as it was the civilian
> version. The military was J***146 or something
> similar (it’s been awhile). . .Both have
> probably changed for security reasons and
> compartmentalization strategies to keep secrets
> from those without current need-to-know
> requirements. I can say this without
> repercussions.
>
> Did you know, it was the operatives in the Army
> and then elected government who started this
> charade and cover up. . . NOT the US Air Force . .
> . they got stuck with the charade while
> establishing a new founded arm of the US military
> months later in 1947 after the big noise and
> Kenneth Arnold aerial flap in the northwest.
> Technically true, too, probably the only non lie
> in this whole known spectacle. Heh Heh
>
> At any rate, my position: We are NOT alone . . .
> Thank you for your interest just the same. It’s
> not misplaced. Continue to scrutinize your
> sources, though. It’s a good habit if not a safe
> one to adopt.
>
> Richard

Thank you for your answer. I've no doubt that a lot of military and former military, as well as civilian pilots, know perfectly well that something is going on. You could say the same about the astronauts, cosmonauts, etc.

My personal view is that the most likely explanation is that UFOs are in fact ET. The trouble is sorting out the wheat from the chaff, the crazy from the not crazy.

1984 was a warning, not a how-to guide.

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The Pentagon's UFO Program 4004 Aine 17-Dec-17 19:48
Mod Note > Topic Moved 437 Dr. Troglodyte 17-Dec-17 20:10
Fighter aircraft 557 Reagent 17-Dec-17 21:13
Re: Fighter aircraft 512 Aine 17-Dec-17 21:24
Oh please! 466 Reagent 17-Dec-17 22:40
Re: Oh please! 413 Aine 17-Dec-17 22:55
Apologies! 416 Reagent 17-Dec-17 23:14
Re: Apologies! 373 Aine 17-Dec-17 23:17
No Worries 384 Reagent 18-Dec-17 03:43
Re: No Worries 387 Archaic 18-Dec-17 03:54
Familiar acronym 349 Reagent 19-Dec-17 20:56
Re: No Worries 350 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:31
Fun, too 388 Reagent 18-Dec-17 18:51
Re: Fun, too 342 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:59
Language conundrum 353 Reagent 19-Dec-17 04:58
Re: Fun, too 280 altered-state 28-Mar-18 04:56
Not so safe secrecy 316 Reagent 29-Mar-18 09:17
Re: Not so safe secrecy 450 altered-state 29-Mar-18 15:01
We are not alone: Alien Presence 476 Sirhope 19-Dec-17 07:13
We are not alone; neither are they 346 Reagent 19-Dec-17 08:47
Re: We are not alone; neither are they 349 Sirhope 19-Dec-17 09:34
We are not alone; neither are they 366 Reagent 19-Dec-17 12:03
Title 14, Section 1211 of U.S. Federal Code: 367 Reagent 19-Dec-17 18:11
Re: Oh please! 355 Archaic 17-Dec-17 23:16
Re: Fighter aircraft 363 Archaic 17-Dec-17 22:46
Some context of what we're seeing in video 471 Archaic 17-Dec-17 22:36
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 451 Aine 17-Dec-17 22:48
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 374 Archaic 17-Dec-17 22:54
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 333 Aine 17-Dec-17 22:56
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 330 Aine 17-Dec-17 23:14
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 332 Archaic 17-Dec-17 23:54
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 386 Loki74 18-Dec-17 00:35
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 412 Loki74 18-Dec-17 00:47
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 320 Archaic 18-Dec-17 01:04
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 320 Loki74 18-Dec-17 01:22
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 330 Archaic 18-Dec-17 01:46
Here, Loki - Lazar's Credibility 357 Archaic 18-Dec-17 02:35
Re: Here, Loki - Lazar's Credibility 358 Loki74 18-Dec-17 11:01
Re: Here, Loki - Lazar's Credibility 260 altered-state 28-Mar-18 05:29
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 331 Loki74 18-Dec-17 00:22
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 412 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 03:44
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 320 jeffreyw 18-Dec-17 03:47
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 338 Archaic 18-Dec-17 04:07
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 320 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:33
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 379 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:50
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 326 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 05:10
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 387 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:49
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 393 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 17:41
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 370 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:10
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 383 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:25
1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 381 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:35
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 357 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:38
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 293 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:43
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 64 Archaic 25-Jun-19 10:01
2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 325 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:41
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 303 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:50
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 309 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:58
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 296 Aine 18-Dec-17 19:03
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 312 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 19:06
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 300 Aine 18-Dec-17 19:08
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 300 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 19:09
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 305 altered-state 28-Mar-18 05:43
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 255 Aine 28-Mar-18 13:02
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 275 altered-state 28-Mar-18 15:26
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 257 Aine 29-Mar-18 00:40
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 298 altered-state 29-Mar-18 01:32
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 382 Susan Doris 18-Dec-17 06:41
just got and started reading Leslie Kean's book on my kindle 323 greengirl5 18-Dec-17 07:02
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 381 Archaic 18-Dec-17 07:20
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 335 Susan Doris 18-Dec-17 10:09
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 331 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:56
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 392 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 17:34
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 293 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:46
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 311 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:12
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 304 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:14
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 308 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:22
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 318 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:39
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 373 Anomalies 01-Mar-18 20:11
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 244 Aine 28-Mar-18 00:08
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 261 altered-state 28-Mar-18 05:46
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 292 Anomalies 01-Mar-18 20:03
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 392 Vanya 18-Dec-17 07:36
Already posted 373 drrayeye 18-Dec-17 08:50
Re: Already posted 374 Vanya 18-Dec-17 10:09
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 402 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:54
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 326 Vanya 19-Dec-17 07:03
This today 387 Poster Boy 20-Dec-17 00:58
Re: This today 410 Aine 20-Dec-17 01:03
Re: This today 322 Aine 20-Dec-17 18:40
High hopes! 310 greengirl5 20-Dec-17 22:11
Re: High hopes! 307 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:11
Zimbabwae UFO case 355 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:26
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 320 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:31
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 337 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:41
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 349 Aine 21-Dec-17 02:02
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 294 Archaic 21-Dec-17 02:13
Could this be it? 335 greengirl5 21-Dec-17 03:18
Re: Could this be it? 288 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:18
And the one I could/did find... 336 Racho 21-Dec-17 05:34
Re: This today 351 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:23
Re: This today 330 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:25
Re: This today 284 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:23
Re: This today 314 Nolondil 21-Dec-17 01:27
Re: This today 319 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:31
Re: This today 294 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:39
Re: This today 345 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:52
Re: This today 295 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:57
Re: This today 289 Archaic 21-Dec-17 02:00
very limited consideration imv 301 Racho 21-Dec-17 01:34
Re: very limited consideration imv 338 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:37
try to envision 304 Racho 21-Dec-17 01:47
Re: try to envision 302 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:50
Re: try to envision 296 Nolondil 21-Dec-17 02:23
Re: try to envision 299 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:24
Re: try to envision 303 Racho 21-Dec-17 06:19
Re: try to envision 296 Aine 21-Dec-17 14:53
Re: try to envision 368 Aine 21-Dec-17 17:47
Re: This today 296 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:34
Other angles 436 Reagent 21-Dec-17 07:50
Re: Other angles 321 Aine 21-Dec-17 15:09
Other angles; in progress and deployed 315 Reagent 21-Dec-17 19:00
Re: Other angles; in progress and deployed 314 Aine 21-Dec-17 21:31
In progress and deployed 281 Reagent 22-Dec-17 00:30
Re: In progress and deployed 297 Aine 22-Dec-17 00:59
Re: This today 317 Poster Boy 22-Dec-17 16:43
Re: This today 319 Aine 22-Dec-17 20:39
Re: This today 321 Poster Boy 22-Dec-17 21:58
Re: This today 282 Aine 22-Dec-17 23:37
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 337 WhoWeird 20-Dec-17 21:32
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 330 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:54
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 321 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 02:18
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 303 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:27
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 291 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 12:44
Are all these kids corrupted? 297 Racho 21-Dec-17 06:27
Re: Are all these kids corrupted? 294 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 12:51
Re: Are all these kids corrupted? 299 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 13:21
Re: Are all these kids corrupted? 305 Aine 21-Dec-17 14:59
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 305 Aine 21-Dec-17 14:51
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 335 Archaic 21-Dec-17 02:22
CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 374 Archaic 21-Dec-17 20:44
Re: CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 368 Aine 21-Dec-17 21:29
Re: CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 364 drrayeye 21-Dec-17 23:53
Re: CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 350 Aine 22-Dec-17 02:24
disbelievers? 331 drrayeye 22-Dec-17 18:11
Re: disbelievers? 344 Aine 22-Dec-17 20:33
Re: disbelievers? 359 drrayeye 23-Dec-17 02:48
Re: disbelievers? 312 Aine 23-Dec-17 13:47
You don't see the difference? 326 drrayeye 23-Dec-17 18:41
Re: You don't see the difference? 332 Eddie Larry 23-Dec-17 19:32
Re: You don't see the difference? 398 Poster Boy 23-Dec-17 20:04
Re: You don't see the difference? 386 DUNE 02-Jan-18 16:59
Re: You don't see the difference? 453 Aine 02-Jan-18 18:49
US Navy Finally Opening Up About Odd Aerial Phenomena 110 Race Jackson 27-May-19 20:00
Mod Note > Duplicate Topic Merged 90 Dr. Troglodyte 27-May-19 22:02
HC USA Airing – Time Sensitive 88 Dr. Troglodyte 31-May-19 15:56
Re: HC USA Airing – Time Sensitive 82 Race Jackson 31-May-19 18:27
US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 111 Race Jackson 02-Jun-19 13:18
Re: US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 90 WhoWeird 02-Jun-19 13:25
Re: US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 100 Race Jackson 02-Jun-19 13:56
Re: US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 94 WhoWeird 02-Jun-19 14:01
Re: US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 103 Lee McGiffen 03-Jun-19 02:16
Re: US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 98 Race Jackson 03-Jun-19 18:44
Mod Note > Duplicate Topic Merged 80 Dr. Troglodyte 02-Jun-19 15:20
Mod Warning > Race Jackson 99 Dr. Troglodyte 02-Jun-19 15:22
Re: US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 68 Archaic 25-Jun-19 14:02
Tucker Carlson May 31st 2019 104 Race Jackson 07-Jun-19 00:49
SlaiciffO SoroboruO LaiciffO 88 Dr. Troglodyte 24-Jun-19 17:58
Thoughts 72 Race Jackson 25-Jun-19 15:15
Re: Thoughts 78 Dr. Troglodyte 25-Jun-19 17:00
Re: Thoughts 70 Archaic 26-Jun-19 11:28
Re: Thoughts 88 Dr. Troglodyte 26-Jun-19 16:05
US Navy Encounters Recent 76 Race Jackson 25-Jun-19 15:41


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