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No worries!
>
> Could you please expand on your position on this?
> A lot of people around here don't understand why
> I'm so open minded on this, but I'd love to hear
> your thoughts.
>
> . . . Given that this is a public forum and
> subject to snoops using web crawlers, web
> sniffers, and web spiders without notice or
> privacy breach concerns I will digress to the
> short answer for now.
>
> I can say with a lot of in-between-the-lines
> fluffy prose I’m retired military and
> jack-of-several trades. . . . Not very informative
> for juicy prime time news I know. But one could
> appear before Congress under oath to testify on
> certain military actions (give my story as witness
> while active duty) where some immunity under law
> might apply. I’m not under a specific gage
> order. Not sworn to secrecy, though, does not
> negate my current obligations and responsibilities
> as a citizen to uphold the rule of law.
>
> I’ve known about some of this stuff – the
> others – flying craft - since I was a child in
> the 1950’s. . . Big deal, I say to those secret
> keepers of government and businesses, get over it
> already . . .The stigma in support of foul agendas
> is revolting even embarrassing as a presumed
> intelligent species as some scholars espouse
> despite their ignorance in these matters. The
> presence or existence of the others is not
> contingent on local terrestrial policies and
> bigotries or an approval rating in the first
> place. That’s my impression from them, anyway,
> for what it is.
>
> It wasn’t until I was active duty military that
> I learned of official regulations, instructions,
> and laws forbidding a citizen (or active duty
> military member) to initiate contact with the
> others on behalf of the Nation’s citizenry as a
> human representative – one of the rules 1211.***
> or something similar as it was the civilian
> version. The military was J***146 or something
> similar (it’s been awhile). . .Both have
> probably changed for security reasons and
> compartmentalization strategies to keep secrets
> from those without current need-to-know
> requirements. I can say this without
> repercussions.
>
> Did you know, it was the operatives in the Army
> and then elected government who started this
> charade and cover up. . . NOT the US Air Force . .
> . they got stuck with the charade while
> establishing a new founded arm of the US military
> months later in 1947 after the big noise and
> Kenneth Arnold aerial flap in the northwest.
> Technically true, too, probably the only non lie
> in this whole known spectacle. Heh Heh
>
> At any rate, my position: We are NOT alone . . .
> Thank you for your interest just the same. It’s
> not misplaced. Continue to scrutinize your
> sources, though. It’s a good habit if not a safe
> one to adopt.
>
> Richard

Thank you for your answer. I've no doubt that a lot of military and former military, as well as civilian pilots, know perfectly well that something is going on. You could say the same about the astronauts, cosmonauts, etc.

My personal view is that the most likely explanation is that UFOs are in fact ET. The trouble is sorting out the wheat from the chaff, the crazy from the not crazy.

1984 was a warning, not a how-to guide.

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The Pentagon's UFO Program 2408 Aine 17-Dec-17 19:48
Mod Note > Topic Moved 156 Dr. Troglodyte 17-Dec-17 20:10
Fighter aircraft 259 Reagent 17-Dec-17 21:13
Re: Fighter aircraft 224 Aine 17-Dec-17 21:24
Oh please! 201 Reagent 17-Dec-17 22:40
Re: Oh please! 164 Aine 17-Dec-17 22:55
Apologies! 163 Reagent 17-Dec-17 23:14
Re: Apologies! 144 Aine 17-Dec-17 23:17
No Worries 153 Reagent 18-Dec-17 03:43
Re: No Worries 144 Archaic 18-Dec-17 03:54
Familiar acronym 127 Reagent 19-Dec-17 20:56
Re: No Worries 129 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:31
Fun, too 138 Reagent 18-Dec-17 18:51
Re: Fun, too 127 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:59
Language conundrum 129 Reagent 19-Dec-17 04:58
Re: Fun, too 63 altered-state 28-Mar-18 04:56
Not so safe secrecy 71 Reagent 29-Mar-18 09:17
Re: Not so safe secrecy 141 altered-state 29-Mar-18 15:01
We are not alone: Alien Presence 180 Sirhope 19-Dec-17 07:13
We are not alone; neither are they 127 Reagent 19-Dec-17 08:47
Re: We are not alone; neither are they 126 Sirhope 19-Dec-17 09:34
We are not alone; neither are they 136 Reagent 19-Dec-17 12:03
Title 14, Section 1211 of U.S. Federal Code: 121 Reagent 19-Dec-17 18:11
Re: Oh please! 143 Archaic 17-Dec-17 23:16
Re: Fighter aircraft 137 Archaic 17-Dec-17 22:46
Some context of what we're seeing in video 218 Archaic 17-Dec-17 22:36
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 211 Aine 17-Dec-17 22:48
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 130 Archaic 17-Dec-17 22:54
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 121 Aine 17-Dec-17 22:56
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 121 Aine 17-Dec-17 23:14
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 132 Archaic 17-Dec-17 23:54
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 150 Loki74 18-Dec-17 00:35
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 179 Loki74 18-Dec-17 00:47
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 119 Archaic 18-Dec-17 01:04
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 117 Loki74 18-Dec-17 01:22
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 122 Archaic 18-Dec-17 01:46
Here, Loki - Lazar's Credibility 146 Archaic 18-Dec-17 02:35
Re: Here, Loki - Lazar's Credibility 149 Loki74 18-Dec-17 11:01
Re: Here, Loki - Lazar's Credibility 55 altered-state 28-Mar-18 05:29
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 128 Loki74 18-Dec-17 00:22
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 171 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 03:44
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 109 jeffreyw 18-Dec-17 03:47
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 124 Archaic 18-Dec-17 04:07
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 116 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:33
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 133 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:50
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 124 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 05:10
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 148 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:49
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 156 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 17:41
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 136 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:10
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 147 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:25
1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 151 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:35
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 121 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:38
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 93 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:43
2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 107 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:41
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 103 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:50
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 107 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:58
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 97 Aine 18-Dec-17 19:03
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 103 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 19:06
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 96 Aine 18-Dec-17 19:08
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 99 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 19:09
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 61 altered-state 28-Mar-18 05:43
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 57 Aine 28-Mar-18 13:02
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 64 altered-state 28-Mar-18 15:26
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 54 Aine 29-Mar-18 00:40
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 70 altered-state 29-Mar-18 01:32
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 152 Susan Doris 18-Dec-17 06:41
just got and started reading Leslie Kean's book on my kindle 122 greengirl5 18-Dec-17 07:02
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 154 Archaic 18-Dec-17 07:20
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 129 Susan Doris 18-Dec-17 10:09
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 126 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:56
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 160 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 17:34
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 106 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:46
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 102 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:12
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 100 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:14
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 103 Poster Boy 18-Dec-17 18:22
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 94 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:39
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 117 Anomalies 01-Mar-18 20:11
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 53 Aine 28-Mar-18 00:08
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 56 altered-state 28-Mar-18 05:46
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 63 Anomalies 01-Mar-18 20:03
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 152 Vanya 18-Dec-17 07:36
Already posted 143 drrayeye 18-Dec-17 08:50
Re: Already posted 138 Vanya 18-Dec-17 10:09
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 157 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:54
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 129 Vanya 19-Dec-17 07:03
This today 161 Poster Boy 20-Dec-17 00:58
Re: This today 174 Aine 20-Dec-17 01:03
Re: This today 124 Aine 20-Dec-17 18:40
High hopes! 109 greengirl5 20-Dec-17 22:11
Re: High hopes! 107 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:11
Zimbabwae UFO case 118 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:26
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 111 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:31
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 112 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:41
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 117 Aine 21-Dec-17 02:02
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 99 Archaic 21-Dec-17 02:13
Could this be it? 108 greengirl5 21-Dec-17 03:18
Re: Could this be it? 90 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:18
And the one I could/did find... 105 Racho 21-Dec-17 05:34
Re: This today 116 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:23
Re: This today 104 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:25
Re: This today 83 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:23
Re: This today 107 Nolondil 21-Dec-17 01:27
Re: This today 96 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:31
Re: This today 98 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:39
Re: This today 99 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:52
Re: This today 96 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:57
Re: This today 94 Archaic 21-Dec-17 02:00
very limited consideration imv 100 Racho 21-Dec-17 01:34
Re: very limited consideration imv 102 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:37
try to envision 104 Racho 21-Dec-17 01:47
Re: try to envision 105 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:50
Re: try to envision 103 Nolondil 21-Dec-17 02:23
Re: try to envision 97 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:24
Re: try to envision 90 Racho 21-Dec-17 06:19
Re: try to envision 99 Aine 21-Dec-17 14:53
Re: try to envision 145 Aine 21-Dec-17 17:47
Re: This today 98 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:34
Other angles 204 Reagent 21-Dec-17 07:50
Re: Other angles 121 Aine 21-Dec-17 15:09
Other angles; in progress and deployed 110 Reagent 21-Dec-17 19:00
Re: Other angles; in progress and deployed 113 Aine 21-Dec-17 21:31
In progress and deployed 95 Reagent 22-Dec-17 00:30
Re: In progress and deployed 93 Aine 22-Dec-17 00:59
Re: This today 100 Poster Boy 22-Dec-17 16:43
Re: This today 95 Aine 22-Dec-17 20:39
Re: This today 98 Poster Boy 22-Dec-17 21:58
Re: This today 88 Aine 22-Dec-17 23:37
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 124 WhoWeird 20-Dec-17 21:32
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 111 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:54
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 120 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 02:18
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 105 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:27
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 88 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 12:44
Are all these kids corrupted? 95 Racho 21-Dec-17 06:27
Re: Are all these kids corrupted? 93 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 12:51
Re: Are all these kids corrupted? 91 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 13:21
Re: Are all these kids corrupted? 100 Aine 21-Dec-17 14:59
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 99 Aine 21-Dec-17 14:51
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 113 Archaic 21-Dec-17 02:22
CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 116 Archaic 21-Dec-17 20:44
Re: CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 119 Aine 21-Dec-17 21:29
Re: CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 113 drrayeye 21-Dec-17 23:53
Re: CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 122 Aine 22-Dec-17 02:24
disbelievers? 129 drrayeye 22-Dec-17 18:11
Re: disbelievers? 120 Aine 22-Dec-17 20:33
Re: disbelievers? 135 drrayeye 23-Dec-17 02:48
Re: disbelievers? 108 Aine 23-Dec-17 13:47
You don't see the difference? 122 drrayeye 23-Dec-17 18:41
Re: You don't see the difference? 113 Eddie Larry 23-Dec-17 19:32
Re: You don't see the difference? 160 Poster Boy 23-Dec-17 20:04
Re: You don't see the difference? 153 DUNE 02-Jan-18 16:59
Re: You don't see the difference? 217 Aine 02-Jan-18 18:49


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