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Richard Fusniak wrote:
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> For goodness sake - get it into your head David that the
> material world is essential for spiritual progress. Deny it
> as much as you like but you cannot cheat the law of cause and
> effect. You are living for on this planet to learn whether
> you like it or not.

I'm not denying it, but I'm saying there's an alternative and that alternative is more real than the physical plane. Sure the physical plane is necessary for progress, but how did it come to that? Who created the physical plane? Us, in conjuction with Universal Mind. Just as we did the astral. We went for the ultimate in separation and lower consciousness. With our apparent free will, we continue to create karmic bonds with the physical plane and the astral. And in the case of the physical, we lose the memory of the truth about it when we are born. In order to break this cycle we must discontinue the "cause" part of cause and effect. And that is possible, and that's what I'm trying say--that there is a way to rise above Cause, just as there is a way to get out of credit card debt, and that "way" is the most worthwhile thing anyone can be doing. We can't free anyone until we ourselves are free.
David

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Re: Reality Shows Promoting Cosmetic Surgery 154 ananda 22-Mar-04 05:15
Re: Reality Shows Promoting Cosmetic Surgery 149 Jergat 22-Mar-04 13:51
What's the problem? 150 David L 22-Mar-04 15:51
Re: Oh The Irony! 160 PriorityRed 22-Mar-04 16:13
Re: Oh The Irony! 170 David L 22-Mar-04 17:54
Re: Oh The Irony! 121 Valkyrie 22-Mar-04 18:38
Re: Oh The Irony! 168 David L 22-Mar-04 23:15
Re: Oh The Irony! 151 Richard Fusniak 23-Mar-04 01:51
Re: Oh The Irony! 152 David L 23-Mar-04 15:36
Re: Oh The Irony! 148 Richard Fusniak 23-Mar-04 18:39
Re: Oh The Irony! 161 David L 23-Mar-04 22:54
Re: Oh The Irony! 123 Valkyrie 22-Mar-04 19:06
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Re: Vouching for vanity 128 Valkyrie 23-Mar-04 08:29
Here's the problem 144 Richard Fusniak 22-Mar-04 18:30
Re: Here's the problem 149 David L 22-Mar-04 23:42
Re: Here's the problem 151 Richard Fusniak 23-Mar-04 01:42
Re: Here's the problem 139 David L 23-Mar-04 01:48
Re: Reality Shows Promoting Cosmetic Surgery 155 smetters 23-Mar-04 18:28
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